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hopefully i'm going to be moving to Burton-on-Trent so I can be closer to my girlfriend, and when i'm there i'm hoping to get together some equipment so i can start gigging and performing live what kind of setup would be good for starting out? at first i was thinking about just getting a computer, controller keyboard and a sampler and trigger samples and stuff, but then i just thought about ableton live is it any good, and is it easy to use? i mean, am i gonna have to read the whole fucking manual before i can start using it? i know how to use reason/cubase/recycle/rebirth |
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please can anyone offer any guidance? |
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good question. Ableton is a nice option I think (havent used it, but sounds good in reviews etc.) Allthough I prefer having 8 or 16 channels under my hands to mix things live. I'm a hardware guy, allthough there is a lot of good software to0. Maybe a laptop and a evolution uc-33 (see thread I am about to start...) and reason/cubase/etc ? |
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see that's the thing with me i'm a hardware guy too, i prefer to be tehre, hands on, tweaking knobs and pots, and faders it really pisses me off having to use a mouse, and from my experience using a controller keyboard with software, it's not real time, there's loads of latency that might just be the interface or something, i dunno but i would prefer to be using hardware |
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I'm plannign on live performances in the near future. My setup: Laptop: (havent got it yet, but the order is placed :):):) ) spirit folio F1 16 channel Akai S3000XL novation superbassstation Roland mks50 (and maybe I'll bring my prophecy too) And maybe I'll buy that evolution thing, which also acts as a midi interface. But if you have computer/sequencer, a sampler a mixer and a good multitimbral synth (with preferrable more than 2 outputs) you are in business :):):) |
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what laptop mate? an ideal setup for me would be a laptop one of those little behrringer desks and akai s300xl an Access Virus Indigo2 and either an sh-101 or an mc-202 (just because i'm an aphex wannabe) heh :) i'd have one of those control surfaces too i'd use the indigo2 as my primary midi controller i think |
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i would use a notebook wit a 8 channel audio output for your mixer, i have an alesis mmt8 hardware sequencer, perfect for live performing. i also would use ableton live and a midi control box, tweaking some vst effects... i'm study over 1,5 years for a live setup ... if my first album is done ... i'll look forward to that ... don't use a sampler, i had an akai sampler and selled it, they're damn bad in flexibility, better u use a hardware sequencer (maybe a drummachine or something) |
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i'd still have to use a sampler in a live setup iot's just me, i prefer hardware stuff (and it'll be my downfall, they're usually fucking expensive compared to their software counterparts!) and i have found that usually, softsynths/samplers don't sound as hard hitting as hardware.....they dont seem to have the oompff that you get from hardware that's my opinion anyways |
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hehe.... for notebooks: get a p4-M (not the desktop cpu's, they're loud and needs much power) enough memory (ddr, with a fast fsb) a 15" screen with a big resolution (1600x1200, for all your plug ins) USB 2.0 for your midi devices and interfaces ... and for synth's, get a nordrack, they have some terrible hard attack phases for bloody ears ... |
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i'd LOVE to have one of the new apple powerbooks, you know, the 17" ones i'd get Virtual Windows on there too i'd have a big fucking res, definately in the 1600x1200 region, possibly higher i like the nord rack 2 (used it at college), it's a very hard hitting synth, it stands out from the rest, and the sweeps are unmistakable....you can tell if its a nord or not but i HAVE to have an Indigo2 |
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i warned you about samplers.... what's the difference ? the akai s3000 is also just a rack, you don't have any control about it without a keyboard or a sequencer, you also will have a memory problem, you need a good midi interface without any latency, then you have to programm all your keyranges, samples, LFO's and envelopes, and that with the MIDI standard, good luck man, i tried 2 years and i tell you it's a fuck ...programming modulation and sysex messages is not that funny .. |
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well, i would prefer to use hardware, but i do understand what you're saying it is a pain in the arse to program them i would use something like halion (what's that other one about, it's supposed to be really good) but i'd have to make sure i had a SHIT LOAD of RAM....like over 1GB and yeah, it would have to be ddr for me ;) |
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same here, i like to twiddling poti's and pressing knobs, that's why i have an external sequencer, it gives you much more flexibility than clicking around your screen, i also have a boss dr770 drummachine for short breaks between the tracks ... and those notebooks are still expensive, i wish i had one ....just for making music. |
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yeah, i can't stand having to chase a mouse around just to move a fader and you can't use two mice at the same time you can use two hands at the same time however yeah i know.....i'm dreaming....$3599 for a suped-up one (1GHz, 1GB DDR RAM, 60GB Ultra ATA Drive, SuperDrive burner, 17" display) but i want one so bad |
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i think i'll take out a loan when i've got a decent job, just so i can get one i think it'd be worth it equates to about £2200 |
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