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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-02-02 11:28 [#00537818]
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i have three questions...
1) Is he still on nothing records?
2) If so, when's his recording contract up for renewal?
3) Is Reznor still involved musically?
And if so.....fucking why is he?
Manson used to be good, but after The Nobodies he's just got complacent and commercial
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-02 11:30 [#00537820]
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um.. would you like to get him on your label, or something?
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-02-02 11:32 [#00537832]
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fucking hell no!!!!
i was just asking because i'd like to know why Reznor's kept him on the label
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-02-02 11:32 [#00537833]
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he's currently recording, or finishing up a new album, I assume on Nothing.
"Golden Age of Grotsque"
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-02-02 11:38 [#00537848]
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he's NOT on nothing last i knew...
him and reznor had a falling out i thought
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-02-02 11:40 [#00537849]
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no, that was a while ago
they reconcilled and manson appeared in the video for Starsuckers, Inc.
the nothing records site still has him on there
but then again there's no mention of the new album on there
i really hope rexnor has ditched him
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-02-02 11:56 [#00537874]
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1. no; nothing/interscope and manson mutually chose NOT to renew manson's contract last year. i don't know if he's signed at the moment.
3. trent hasn't been directly involved w/ manson's music since 1996 but when they patched things up 2 years ago trent promised something "diabolical" from the pair in the (presumably distant) future.
manson is finishing up his new shitty album w/ tim skoldt (sp?) from kmfdm right now. should come out in the spring. check digitalnoise.org for more info and news.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-02-02 12:27 [#00537907]
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after um... fuck. mechanical animals, i thought his music sucked hardas hell
mechanical animals is a good album, just not a good manson album
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Monumrnt
from To (Canada) on 2003-02-02 13:16 [#00537958]
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I wonder if it is real.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-02-02 13:21 [#00537965]
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how do you know it's shit yet?
heard any tracks?
I don't expect much, but haven't written him off yet
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-02-02 20:09 [#00538278]
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I really liked antichrist superstar. I consider myself a fan of Marilyn Manson, but Im not at all obsessed. Frankly, Ive kind of lost interest in him.
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-02-02 20:25 [#00538288]
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I lost interest, too. I can pinpoint my lack of interest to a couple of things:
01: First and foremost, Holy Wood was a big, punk letdown. as a 4-track ep, I would have loved it.
02: I will always view his collaborations with eminem and slipknot a money-based maneuver to attract more fans.
03: Manson is constantly saying, "the new album will be even harder than..." it's just so predictable. And the record isn't even hard--it's just some crappy guitar bits looped over and over with cliched lyrics and soudns that aren't thoughtful. tracks that don't sound better than demo stage at best. it's a hurried approach at music. damn embarassing record, that.
04: manson constantly seems to overestimate his artistic merit.
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-02-02 20:27 [#00538290]
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Heh. The nothing records web site isn't even a reliable source for nothing records!
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-02-02 20:28 [#00538291]
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punk?
what the fuck?
antichristsvperstar was his best work
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-02-02 20:31 [#00538293]
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no no no--holy wood was punky. those guitars, ick! what the hell was he thinking? it's like this punk/heavy metal hybrid thing with some of his lamest beats and lyrics. and some obligatory samples--i guess to satisfy people who think manson is some industrial godfather.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-02-02 20:36 [#00538299]
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i never really liked him
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-02-02 20:38 [#00538302]
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haha. :) First of all, I agree about your number two. :) But I kinda liked Holy Wood. ;) Maybe I just really really liked the cd book, hah. Im a sucker for cool art.
And IM not ashamed to admit that I *gasp* like guitar. *kisses October Rust*
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-02-02 20:38 [#00538303]
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Some of his old stuff has his best lyrics. Here's one I like: "I wanna be the fish, I like the way he swims. I bend my arms to fins The water rushes in." I like the analogy of trying to fit in at school; if ever he has songs that misunderstood people can relate to, "Learning to Swim" (learning, there, is another reference to school) is one of them. :)
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-02-02 20:40 [#00538307]
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I like some of holy wood, but I think it would have been better off had he thought it out, worked on it, and tried to make it less of a rock outfit thing. :)
You and yer guitars ;) cue playful fist-shaking! :D
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-02-02 20:40 [#00538308]
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i'm so sick of people throwing the word punk around at anything with guitars
fucking learn punk and then respect it
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-02-02 20:42 [#00538310]
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right on!
I guess. :)
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-02-02 20:43 [#00538312]
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*raise eyebrow*
Beatles have guitars. Doesnt kmfdm have guitar, too? Some Tori songs have guitar. Janes Addiction has guitars. Nirvana has guitars.
So there.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-02-02 20:46 [#00538317]
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i was brought up on punk so it means a lot more to me than most of you
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-02-02 20:48 [#00538319]
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Here's a list of why I call Holy Wood punk. 01: punk, adj. low-quality 02: ramones, sex pistols=punk ramones, sex pistols: two minute guitar songs manson: two minute guitar songs 03: ramones: pretend to have a message manson: pretends to have a message 04: punk has shouting and screaming manson screams "fight! fight! fight!" over and over... 05: the trend with punk is to make it music that isn't mainstream, but that everybody listens to because they think it's something fucking wonderful. :) Like someone's going to say, "Wow! (Random punk band) revolutionized distorted guitar and very basic beats!"
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-02-02 20:52 [#00538325]
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Guitars themselves aren't what I object to! :) THe Beatles didn't rely on their guitars. They had lyrics that meant something. They are the absolute innovators of music, I say! :) Nothing wrong with a guitar, but you have to be able to extract something from it. Though I don't like Jimi hendrix, I'll say his star spangled banner captured something very well. When I listen to the beatles, i have lyrics, studio trickery, and awesome rhythms and melodies. How would a song like "yer blues" stack up without those guitars? :) it wouldn't be the same! but definitely, they didn't stick with the same sound their whole career! :D
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-02-02 20:52 [#00538326]
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hey i've got an idea
GO FUCK YOURSELF
you have no idea what punk is
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-02-02 20:53 [#00538327]
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what is your beef with guitars? Above, I listed quite a few bands that you enjoy that have guitars! Oy!
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-02-02 20:54 [#00538329]
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Personally, Luke, I dont think that Janes Addiction has done anything special with guitars. ;)
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-02-02 20:55 [#00538330]
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Yikes, man, calm down! 0_o'
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-02-02 20:57 [#00538334]
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I hate Jane's Addiction's music--it's unlistenable trash except for of course and trip away. :)
I like the lyrics and vocals only. drums are tolerable.
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-02-02 21:00 [#00538336]
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ppftt okay. ;)
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optimus prime
on 2003-02-02 21:02 [#00538337]
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marylin manson? i'd do her.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-02-02 21:04 [#00538339]
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i'm talking about punk rock, punk rock is a word used by dilitrons(sp), and heartless manipulators, about music that takes up the energy and the bodies and the hearts and the souls and the time and the minds of young men who give what they have to it, they give everything they have to it. and it's a term thats based on contempt, it's a term thats based in fasion, style, satanism, and everything thats rotten about rock n roll. i don't know johnny rotten, but i'm he puts as much blood, and sweat, as sigmund freud did. you see what sounds to you like a great load of trashy old noise, is infact the brilliant music of a genuis, and that music is so powerful it is quite beyond my control... and when i'm in the grips of it, i don't feel pleasure and i don't feel pain, i just can't feel emotions. do you understand what i'm talking about? when you can't feel anything, and you don't want to either...- mogwai,punk rock: (roughly)
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-02-02 21:05 [#00538341]
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"but i'm sure he puts"
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-02-03 02:56 [#00538435]
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i am SO fucking glad to hear that he's been botted from nothing
maybe he's on his own label?
i really hope that there's no more collaboration between Reznor and him!
i watched a video clip thats available for d/l from mansons site (just for a laugh) and the music sounds very much like it was heavily inspired by The Fragile (listen to the use of the synth, you'll see what i mean)
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-03 02:59 [#00538438]
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Pile of old wank.
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Monumrnt
from To (Canada) on 2003-02-03 06:53 [#00538720]
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I never know whether he is singing about his public or people who dislike him.
But he thought me a good lesson. People will respect you if you have a clip-on.
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Fernz
from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-03 06:57 [#00538730]
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Manson is Reznor's bitch methinks. To be honest though I dont think he would be where he is now without Trent Reznor... First two albums were good then from there he went wank. Im not too excited about GOLDEN AGE OF GROTESQUE. And Tainted Love...? What was that!!!?
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-02-03 07:24 [#00538798]
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heh my thoughts exactly on the pitiful tainted love
if it weren't for Reznor, manson would just be Brian Warner and his Drum machine
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