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Anyone know where I can find tabs for the amen break? I'll be programming my own version for a track I'm working on. Thanks in advance! |
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you'll be lucky - it's all about the sound of the break not necessarily the rhythm |
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It was a one off never to be replicated. You have to use the original :) |
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Hmmm, so if I change it, it's not going to sound like the original done with different sounds. ;( Well, there goes that idea :( |
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ther are 4 on e bay for sale right now http://cq-search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?MfcISAPIComma nd=GetResult&ht=1&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&cgiurl=http%3A%2 F%2Fcgi.ebay.co.uk%2Fws%2F&query=amen+brother+winstons&ebay tag1code=3&shortcut=3&currdisp=1&maxRecordsReturned=300&max RecordsPerPage=50&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&x=11&y=17 |
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Damn! Thanks anyway. maybe if I slow it down and work on it piece by piece I can transcribe it. |
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you should get that record - it's great it's slow on that but the drum and bass blokes ionly use a small segment of it |
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I think it seems like I can transcribe it by playing a slowed, looped version of it several times over. |
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I would be interested to hear what you manage to come up with :) |
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...best bet is to use recycle and break it apart that way...there's a nice 4 bar seg taht gives you every hit you want... Its a long time since I last mashed up an amen but from what I recall, the beats themselves were amazingly on-time for a human drummer (almost quantized...).....cut it into straight 16ths or 8ths and it's really not far off... as someone said tho...it's the sound that matters... |
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True true, definatly the sound I think I know what your getting at though, you want to convert the same groove to a drum machine and use different sounds eh? Its easy, get a sound editor, and replace over the existen hits your own sounds, and it should work, or go into recycle, get the amen and splice it up so each hit has a slice, export a rex file, open up reason, hit the to track button, and get a redrum and program your own sounds to match..... You can mic up a drum set, and experiment with ambience and different mic'ing techniques and you could get some similiar sounds id imagine, youd need a full drum kit and drum mics though Mic'ing things differently is always good fun :*) |
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If you loop the amen break and listen to it for ten minutes you start to hear pitches in the snare. I'm scared! |
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I seem to remember this exact technique being mentioned in an interview with aaron funk. |
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Hey, what's this all about? It sounds interesting. Pitches in the snares? |
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oh, not the pitching part. I meant the replacing of the drum/snares hits in the amen break with other sounds. aaron says he uses it a lot to capture the rhythm of the break, but with some screwy sounds. |
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What's an Amen Break? Some kind of Drum n' Bass-sound? |
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....in soundforge |
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aphexacid, think about squarepusher, what is squarepusher withut the amen break. it's from the drummer from the song "amen, mother", can't remember the band name |
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sorry, it's 'Amen Brother' by The Winstons |
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it's actually Amen My Brother, but i'm just nit picking >AphexAcid if you want an example of that break download my song Tirade (full version) from www.zebox.com/oscillik/ |
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ah, you beat me to it lol |
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right click and choose "save as..." and it works my friend. |
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Oh, ok. Thanks, map, and oscilik. |
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hehe, and i mean "save target" .. gg |
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no worries :) i absolutley LOVE that breakbeat and to think, it came from a track called Amen My Brother, like old skool funk or something! sometimes i just CAN't get that break out of my head |
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see where he speaks about that technique... Would post it here but too big.... |
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just fyi, Atari Teenage Riot use that break quite a lot, usually heavily distorted and with that gabba kick drum |
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i like the whole breakbeat scene, and i do a lot with breakbeats, also amen, apache, humpty dump, funky drummer, think about it and so on ... |
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i love breakbeats, but i don't know much about the genre and everything, i'm trying to get into it the only stuff that i've heard that's d&b is stuff like Roni Size, and he's fucking amazing in my opinion i like the apache break, and funky drummer :) |
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Hey, Oscilik, check out some of Squarepushers stuff. Get yer hands on Hard Normal Daddy or Big Loada for some nice dn'b |
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yeah but anyone can sample a bit of a drumloop off a record and then hit the trigger key over and over. it's not exactly musical talent is it? what would impress me would be a young current band who actually played instruments. i mean, somebody had to actually 'play' the amen break in the first place didn't he? on real drums. with drumsticks. heard of those? |
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yeah, its not overly difficult to play on drums... but to program your own amen is a little more difficult. lots of ghost hits and stuff. |
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Yup, I make all my own sounds anymore--so sampling is not an option unless I can't tab it out. I've used recycle to analyze it in 10th second splices. I'm going to work on it today and see what I can do. As for the reason technique, not on this 200mhz, 64megs of ram system I can't. ;) |
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reason does work on a system with that spec, i've had it running on a p200 32mb ram system just don't use too many fx machines and comps |
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so why, all of your freaks, don't join the xltronic music massacre ? |
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please explain: what is the xltronic music massacre? |
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please explain: what is the xltronic music massacre? |
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damn, why'd it post twice? |
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ah, i just had a look at the post i would, but i don't have access to equipment :( i would love to have a go, it sounds great :) |
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wtf ? i heard some stuff from you and it's not bad, everybody has to begin one time :) it's just fun ... |
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where'd you hear my stuff? from my zebox site? lol, i did those whilst i was in college circa April-May 2002 i don't have a computer at home or anything, so i can't do any stuff the only access i have to a music ready comp is my mates, and he's asleep half the time! lol i really wish i could, because i'd love to get my stuff out there in the open, so people can hear my stuff, but until i can get some equipment ie a comp, i'm fucked |
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btw, thanks, for saying i'm not bad :) i got some guy having a dig at me because i used the amen break |
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ah i see... i d'led your stuff yesterday and today here in my office :) you can do a lot with the amen break, i like the unique snare, bum z dam z dadadararam z da bum ... :) |
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heh, cool :) thanks for taking the time to listen :) what did you think of Ruined (again)? i could listen to that break all the time, i'm not joking i fucking love it, it's brilliant i wish i knew a drummer who could drum it ;) |
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did you use any compressor for it ? or maximizers ? i'm sure it would kicks more with some hard knee compression ... and i like it a big more complex, more breaks, pitching and cut off filters ... |
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i did try to use comps, but i can never seem to get the hang of compression :( i mainly used reason, i compressed it in there by rewiring a comp into the main mixer then i exported to cubase, compressed through there, and then a used the compressors on the Yamaha O2R digital desk (that's what we had in college) and burned straight to cd |
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i was disappointed with the guitars though - i didn't get them mixed right :( they sounded great on the studio monitors, but wh had no nearfields, so i couldn't tell what it'd sound like on a stereo |
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