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offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-01-26 13:24 [#00528941]
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I just read an article in my local newspaper about how
(apparently) there are a lot of people saying that The Lord
of the Rings movie's are rascist.

Heres a snippet of the article:

"There's an ugly war raging among the Tolkien faithful,
those lovers of Hobbits and Elves and the magical lands of
Middle Earth. "The Lord of the Rings" trilogy-both the films
and the books-is rooted in racism, say critics, a white
supremacist fantasy where the good guys are white, the bad
guys are black and behavior is predetermined by race.
P.C.-poppycock, say Tolkien supporters and the films'
executive producer, who insist those who see racial
undertones in the epic tale are misinterpreting the half
century-old classic that has been turned into a series of
blockbuster movies that have earned more than $600 million
so far.
"'The Lord of the Rings' is racist," John Yatt wrote in
British newspaper, The Guardian. "... the races that Tolkien
has put on the side of evil are given a rag-bag of nonwhite
characteristics that could have been copied straight from a
(British National Party) leaflet.
Dark,slant-eyed,swarthy,broad-faced - it's amazing he didn't
go the whole hog and give them a natural sense of
rhythm."


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2003-01-26 13:26 [#00528945]
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Of course you can kind of say the same thing about Star
Wars, you know. The good guys are on the "light side" of
the force, and the bad guys are the "dark side". Plus they
wear a lot of black (except for the stormtroopers.)


 

offline DaWeeze from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-01-26 13:27 [#00528948]
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No, the people who would think such things are the racists.

Idiots.

:P *two middle fingers up*


 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-26 13:28 [#00528954]
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Well that's "The Guardian" for you. I seem to recall they
also accused the nursery rhyme "Ba ba Black Sheep" as being
racist too.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-01-26 13:29 [#00528956]
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LOL


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-01-26 13:33 [#00528961]
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you know you live in the usa, i think thats why some people
are saying that, cos everything is said about and on medias
in usa, they just cant stop talking shits, so obviously the
subject of rascism in LOTR will comes out... hoooray the day
has come
:)


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-26 13:33 [#00528962]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker



fucking entomologists are racist too

always talkin about black ants, red ants


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-01-26 13:34 [#00528963]
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I always just saw the movie and the books as metaphors.
Light vs. Dark = Good vs. Evil.

The fact that Elves, Dwarves, Humans, and Hobbits are
working together for a common cause says that it doesn't
matter what you look like, we need to fight evil. And for as
for the evil side, Orcs, Goblins, and Trolls are comming
together to fight what they think is 'evil'. Not to mention
that one of the leaders is Saruman (who is white). And we
all know how black people appoint white men to rule their
people :\


 

offline aquagak from Berlin (Germany) on 2003-01-26 13:36 [#00528966]
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people who dont care are the least racist


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-01-26 13:37 [#00528967]
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hahaaha...

it would be even funnier if bullshit like this wasn't so
annoying


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-01-26 13:40 [#00528971]
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YES! Glad to see that people see this as annoying. To me its
like "Why the fuck is this in a newspaper?"


 

offline b0nk from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2003-01-26 13:52 [#00528990]
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and vader turns out to be white proving all blacks want to
be white.. haha JK

thats from the kevin smith movie "chasing amy" theres a
whole part about that theory lol


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-01-26 13:54 [#00529001]
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yes exactly.... this is so stupid its totally irrelavent, it
doesn't belong in a newspaper


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-26 13:59 [#00529010]
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You got that backwards. Vader proves that all whites want to
be black. Michael Jackson proves that all blacks want to be
white.


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-01-26 15:02 [#00529091]
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lol, have people nothing better to do than grasp for
attention?


 

offline uzim on 2003-01-26 15:14 [#00529105]
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humans are racist towards dogs and pets...


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2003-01-26 15:26 [#00529114]
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and towards my teddybear


 

offline forck_02lynix from brooklyn on 2003-01-26 15:46 [#00529134]
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yeah dogs and cats and cows and chickens and pigs cuz they
eat em! dumb humans.


 

offline disasemble from United States on 2003-01-26 15:48 [#00529138]
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i disagree, autumn acid is defintely by autechre who is in
fact mike paradinas


 

offline uzim on 2003-01-26 15:49 [#00529139]
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baka!


 

offline disasemble from United States on 2003-01-26 15:51 [#00529140]
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^^


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-01-26 15:55 [#00529143]
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it might not be racist, but the film is dangerous within the
current context, that is to say that inspires people to
separate good and evil in a modern struggle which cannot be
drawn as such...
i find that the lack of loss on the side of "the good guys"
to this point is deplorable, in that it can very easily
strike people as a pro-war message.


 

offline Mickey Mouse from The Moon on 2003-01-26 17:33 [#00529292]
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People protesting this are silly, maybe in Tolkien's fantasy
world filled imagination there were no black people (for
whatever reasons), it shouldent matter really, he isnt being
outwardly racist at all


 


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