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Pigfarmer
from Ipswich (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-22 08:58 [#00523846]
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The RIAA (the organisation that killed audiogalaxy & Napster) wants to get the user information of the Kazaa users that traded music files and they even recieved the full permission by the Judge John Bates at the district court in Washington D.C.
I think it was only a matter of time until that would happen but it still sucks though.
¿ What do you think ?
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Pigfarmer
from Ipswich (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-22 08:58 [#00523849]
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like my avatar BTW ?
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-22 09:00 [#00523851]
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Sad but inevitable. Apparently Kazaa's main defence was summat like the program was written in Canada and so doesn't fall under the US laws but the Judge saw through that shite. After being featured in about 3 million tv programmes last year it's inevitable. DVD quality rips of movies which don't come out for months will always ensure something goes tits up.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-01-22 09:05 [#00523855]
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Note that this lawsuit wasn't against Kazaa, but against the user's ISP Verizon.
At first Verizon refused to give the subscriber's information, now they are being forced by the judge.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-22 09:09 [#00523857]
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I ain't worried, how many people use Kazaa? They're gonna pick on me for downloading shite pop music, porn and bootleg videos (the only thing I bother getting). I couldn't give a monkey's chuff.
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hive
on 2003-01-22 13:33 [#00524115]
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i thought kazaa had moved to the netherlands to avoid this shite
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-01-22 13:37 [#00524118]
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did you know that you cant be done for downloading anything from the p2p, but they'll have you if you share. So you can have loads of unreleased stuff on you pc, but your safe as long as you dont share it.
Go figure
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-01-22 13:39 [#00524130]
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Madness!
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-22 13:43 [#00524137]
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when napster was being taken down, i got an email from Sony Music, ASKING me to send them my details so that they could sue me for sharing the then-unreleased manic street preachers album "know your enemy". like anyone would reply to them!!
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-01-22 13:45 [#00524139]
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lol
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-01-22 13:46 [#00524140]
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hehehe
I work for an ISP and we get correspondance all the time telling us to disconnect Joe Bloggs' account due to an illegal copy of MIB II that was downloaded via us etc.
Poor customers =o(
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-22 13:48 [#00524144]
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you dont disconnect them do you? :-(
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-01-22 13:59 [#00524155]
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Not me personally, but they do get disconnected
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-01-22 14:03 [#00524162]
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Haha!
Maybe they were appealing to the good law abiding citizen that dwells inside us all.
-P
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Pigfarmer
from Ipswich (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-22 14:04 [#00524164]
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I sit behind a fat firewall and my real name is nowhere in my PC.
Come on RIAA, try to sue me you bloodsuckers
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DaWeeze
from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-01-22 14:13 [#00524181]
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I suppose Soulseek is next...
Still isn't going to save the industry from declining sales and consumer apathy...
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-01-22 14:17 [#00524187]
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Thats why I like private servers. Then I don't have to worry about the RIAA bitching at my ISP and me losing the net. It's not like I don't buy cds anyway. I just bought the other day. Damn RIAA. Go look at their website and read the lies they try to tell people....
www.riaa.org
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-01-22 14:20 [#00524190]
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why do these idiots insist on continuesly fighting this losing battle? The technology is there, they should just realize they can't stop downloading as a whole, because there will always be somewhere new whether they like it or not.
They could keep wasting their time and money trying to shut each site down one at a time, or wake up and use it to their advantage.
Pigfarmer and Corngrower... you realize if we were to combine our forces there would be no stopping us?
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tunemx
from Budapest (Hungary) on 2003-01-22 14:37 [#00524237]
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So if you have a private server, and you download stuff, that is unrecognizable by your ISP? While its recognizable if you download via Kazaa?
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-01-22 14:46 [#00524251]
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There are a lot of variables here because all the file sharing programs are different.
If you take Kazaa, it basically allows anyone on the Internet to browse your shared files. (Try pointing your web browser at your Kazaa port if you know how.)
A private server doesn't necessarily protect you, but in most cases your machine uploads your list of shared files to a server and it is not directly accessible by anyone.
An ISP can still snoop on network traffic to see what people are uploading and downloading unless your network traffic is encrypted, whether you're on a private server or not. But I doubt they will go through that sort of effort for the RIAA and MPAA. They already do it on behalf of the US Government, though, but for other purposes ...
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Pigfarmer
from Ipswich (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-23 02:00 [#00524820]
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That true ! Its like that Microsoft Paladium crap. Sure, they can spend millions on the development of that system but Im pretty sure it wont take week until its cracked. The companys the RIAA need to realize that have like millions of people against them and a bunch of hot crackers that just cant wait for next thing to solve.
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