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I've had this cd for a little while now, and i really think it is amazing! Before this, the only Plaid i had heard was the P-Brane ep. But now i realise you really need to listen to these guys on an album-format. 4 songs just isn't enough ;-) What i like mostly about this album is really the fun and the joy and the love for melody that oozes out of every song! I think it is very different from the likes of Afx, Autechre and Squarepusher... compared to Plaid they are all very serious (except maybe squarepusher)... nothing wrong with that... but none of those guys can make me as happy with their music as this album can :-) I just love how they are constantly changing the music (going from delicate piano-pieces, to heavy beats, and then suddenly some crazy scratching), all the time making sure the main melody of the song remains going in one way or the other. For instance in the amazing song New Bass Hippo...Sometimes you only the melody softly in the synths... somewhere in the background.... or only in the bassline... or vaguely being played by that piano. It's like they are almost playing the melody... carrying it from one instrument to the other. You can hear it but not focus on it.... and the tension grows and grows as you feel this glorious moment approaching... And then it suddenly moves upfront in the mix, and everything falls into place... only for it to fall apart again :-) There is this constant tension in the song (and also the other songs on the album). It hardly sounds like electronic music anymore... it's more like a bunch of musicians hanging out together, jamming with these melodies... like they do in jazz-music. (cough... Ralome!...) |
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I also love the song Deadsea... it sounds like it's being played with my favourite instrument (the cello) which makes it sound sad and melancholic (the only one on the album that isn't happy). And it becomes even more dramatic towards the end... almost sounds like a funeral-march. A song that always catches me by surprise is dang spot... i don't know what it is with this one... it puts a gigantic smile on my face and makes me want to dance around the room :-D It's such a fun song! Pino Pomo fits very well with it... the same happy atmosphere only not as energetic. But still i feel like these two songs belong together in a way. And well... i've run out of ways of describing the music, but i also wanted to mention Shackbu and Little People... because they are simply 2 of the most impressive and entertaining pieces of music i've heard in a long time! I am now officially a big fan of these guys! :-p I can't wait to hear the rest of their albums... and i'm also starting to grow more and more curious of the Black Dog now :-) I wonder if you can already hear in there the brilliance i hear in this album! And i really do think it's brilliant! I also like the artwork :-p Very different from other warp-cd's artwork. Just like the music it's all about having fun (hehe, you think the music is being made by a complicated machine, but it's really just a monkey with a record-player ;-)). I kinda feel like making some good photocopies of the cover (the backsides) and maybe enlarging them... to see if you can really make a model of the cover if you cut out all those shapes and glue them together... has it been done before? Are all the measurements correct? |
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Hello George :D I agree with you about Plaid. They really do have some songs which make you grin like a fool! The funny thing about their albums is that with Double Figure, I think it has a really strong opening few songs; With Not For Threes I think it has an amazing middle section... and Rest Proof Clockwork for me gets better towards the end :D Their EPs are also great - check out 'Booc' if you can I'm not keen on the Black Dog stuff tho, but I am trying to get into 'em ;) Needs a bit of work tho |
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jarwoski is totally in loved with plaid rpcw is a great album indeed as every plaid... I love them too I also love trainer... many dont like it |
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Hello Bill! Yeah, i had noticed over the last months that you are quite fond of Plaid :-) Now i can see why! The highlights for me are spread out nice and even over RPC... some in the beginning, some halfway, some towards the end. Maybe i'll understand your point better once i've also heard Not For Threes and Double Figure :-D I need to look up a complete discography of theirs somewhere... didn't even know they had ep's besides P-Brane ;-) |
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What's a Trainer? |
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Totally agree with all of you. It started out with RPC, truly an amazing album. And yes, Double Figure's first 3-4 tracks are worth buying the whole album. Love' em. |
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I only like the first track (or was it the second? one of those 2) But that one track is really good and would fit on not for 3's (a much better album imo) |
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Yeah they have quite a lot of stuff out, with the black dog previous incarnation some of it is quite confusing. I trust Xltronic's discography will be extensive :) If you like Bjork, the track she does with them on NTF is awesome... I just managed to get an mp3 of 'Itsu' as well (only available in quicktime vid at the moment) and that track is soooo gorgeous... one of my top tracks ever. Their new album is gonna be a dvd as WELL... if you haven't got one yet, better start saving! |
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Trainer is a 2cd set that collects most of their black dog work (the band they were in before splitting with some other guy and forming the duo Plaid)... check Pitchfork for some reviews, they like Plaid. |
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NTF = NFT? So Björk does some vocals on that album? That's rather nice :-) I did not know that! Looks like that one should be next on my list! (*loves Björk*). And don't worry, i've got a dvd-player ;-) So i'm all ready for the new album... bring it on! |
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plaid publicly announced that they like mr. projectile (gossip) |
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Yeah, NFT I mean :P That album is so varied... it goes all over the place... and I agree with wMw, it's much better than RPC. Out of the three related albums Rest Proof is my least favourite. |
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hmm... :-) That Pitchfork-review sounded nice! And so if i get the "Trainer" cd, i will have all the music they released as Black Dog?? (i have seen this cd in a store actually a few days ago... now i wish i had bought it ;-)). |
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"Out of the three related albums Rest Proof is my least favourite." :-o Then i guess it's a good thing i started with this one :-) Otherwise it would have dissapointed me probably, and now i'm just completely in love with it! |
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I'm not sure, I have 'Bytes' and there's a lot of the same tracks. I have looked around at some Plaid discogs but none of them are complete :o/ |
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just alot of the same?! Grmbl... Sounds like if i want a complete collection i'll need all the Black Dog-cd's AND the trainer-album... *cries* |
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Like I said, I'm not sure - I have Bytes on cd but I had to download Trainer, and don't keep my CD's in the same place as my mp3's to compare them. Have a look around google for Plaid and see if you can know for shore :) |
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Well i'm a lazy bastard ;-) I'm sure someone on the board will know this. And eventually it'll probably be posted right here in this thread, hehe. Thus saving me the trouble of having to compare tracklistings... :-p |
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majority of what i heard by black dog/plaid is really really great favorite plaid: not for threes favorite black dog: spanners rest proof is almost up there for me though |
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each plaid album i find very different, i like them for different reasons. definitely one of my favorite artists though. cant wait for the dvd/album |
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Trainer is sweet, easily my favorite release by Plaid. Disc 2 especially tracks 2 and 3 is amazing. Now, what I find funny is, Disc 2 (perfect condition) will only work on certain cd players for some odd reason. On the ones it doesn't work it just makes a clicking noise. The same goes for my brothers Disc 2 which is also in perfect condition. Does anyone else have that problem? |
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I like Plaid muchly I think I enjoyed Double Figuere the best out of all of them The different styles in all of their albums is really something, from their early Black Dog days to their last ep. Its like a story they are telling though a book of sound. Yay! |
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rest proof clockwork made my day today what a perfect fucking piece of art!!! every track makes me wanna be happy |
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I ve decided this is gonna be my plaid day. so I ve already listened to restproof clockwork now : not for threes and after trainer and double figure |
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i am a big fan of plaid, rest proof is my fave by them, but i much prefer the black dog stuff. spanners by black dog is an amazing album, but a lot more experimantal than rest proof as is all black dog stuff. got some stuff by them as balil, too. they put out an ep on planet e years ago.... |
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Hey Revpersona that happens to me when I play it in my brother's cd player...I wonder why |
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Ah, so I'm not the only one. I don't have a clue in all honesty.... It doesn't work on my PC or PS2 either. Does yours make a clicking noise? |
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Surrounded, I liked your summary of RPC. I think its a great piece of work,as are all of their releases. For my ears, however, I find that Black Dog, with and without the members of Plaid, produce a more interesting and variable sound. This is not to take away from Plaid, who are definitely among my favourite artists, but I find The Dog at another level, with more variable beats and more interesting textures. Your likening of Plaid to jazz is spot on, and with that I think comes a slightly more conservative approach (as if I just called jazz conservative! Jazz: The Original Freestyle). I highly recommend you get your hands on any Black Dog you can. I was listening to Music For Adverts last night, and was still surprised by the breaks and variations it contains. Cheers :) |
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I totaly agree plaid is unique,.. imo double figure is their best work, you can hear how the guys getting better and better. I saw them live this summer and ooooh what was it great, not only the music but also the visuals,... and that nice robot camera in front of their tools hmmmmmm i love those gadgets |
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for a few seconds then it just stops. it does it on my PS2 as well, but my PS2 is kinda screwed up |
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Double Figure Gets My Vote. |
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double figure here... |
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Yeah Double figure is awesome! I need to pick it up on vinyl |
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yeah.. the bjork song on Not For Threes IS great... has anyone heard the Plaid remix of All is Full of Love... amazing |
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i found that on vinyl, I regret not buying it |
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dang spots is FARKIN' OARSUM! |
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you and your plaid :) |
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hell yeah! My sentiments exactly! :-p That little tune has given me so much joy and happiness! |
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The black dog eh?... it has been recommended to me before on this board. "I find The Dog at another level, with more variable beats and more nteresting textures." well that does sound pretty good i guess (altough in "their style", i think the plaid i've heard so far is pretty much perfect. I'd be very surprised if the black dog turns out to be even better. But hey, i've been surprised before ;-) "with that I think comes a slightly more conservative approach" hm... so the black dog is less jazz, and more idm/electronic perhaps? "I highly recommend you get your hands on any Black Dog you can." I'm actually a bit confused by the whole black dog/plaid discography. I've seen Trainer in a recordstore once. But i don't know if i should get that, or some of the original Black Dog-releases. And if so: which is best to start with? Thanks for your input anyways! :-D I will definitly be buying more Plaid, and probably also some Black Dog :-) |
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"I saw them live this summer and ooooh" I still can't forgive myself for missing the chance to see Plaid when they were in holland a few months ago :-( But i hadn't heard any of their stuff back then, and i didn't really care. Damnit! I haven't decided yet if i should get Double Figure next, or perhaps first try out Not For Threes |
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:-o you don't like plaid then morton? You don't know what you're missing ;-) |
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that a tough decision...I really love both of those...But if you decide on buying plaid over black dog then I think you should go with Double Figure...just my opinion This was my first Plaid album and it blew me away |
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It's a tough one George... but I'd say get 'Double Figure' next, then 'Not For Threes'... I think NFT will give you a nice surprise if you leave it till last. And try and get some of their eps! Don't forget them! |
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does anyone else have a hard time finding black dog stuff? I looked all over the place and can't find anything except for whats on trainer or perhaps Im an idiot? |
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"And try and get some of their eps!" Such as? The only plaid ep i know of is P-brane :-) But it looks like double figure should be next then. Especially when the advice is also coming from jarworski, who seems almost obsessed with plaid :-p When i order some new cd's, there'll probably be Double Figure and something from Black Dog in my order. |
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where do you order CD's from surrounded? |
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www.rare-records.com It's a dutch site though (meaning i don't need a creditcard to pay), doubt you would understand a word on there :-p But i just checked, they do have lots of Black Dog albums on stock :-) |
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I only recently got into plaid, and they reminded me that there still are good artists out there waiting to be discovered, |
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