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I was in the middle of a pleasant conversation with one of my friends online and a bunch of shots rang out. A seamlessly never ending stream of thirty shots it seemed. I dropped to the floor. Hoping a stray wouldn't catch me in the head, roughly 5 minutes after the initial shot I heard the sirens of emergency vehicles. I finally mustered the courage to go outside for an analysis of the situation and observed a spectacle like I have never seen. I witnessed police cars darting back and fourth on the boulevard, blaring sirens and the buzz of a helicopter approaching from a distance. Upon the choppers arrival it turned on its spot light and gave me a good assumption of the location of the shooting. It seems the shots came from the next block. Sitting at my computer obviously very shaken. I pondered the if anyone on this mb can relate to this situation. I have come to the conclusion that many if not all of you cannot. Its very upsetting to hear your interpretations of the US, and mainly Los Angeles and its people. You take the idea of gang bangers very light heartedly. It is a joke to most of you, that there is a place where murder can be recognized as a common occurrence. I could only imagine how any of you would deal with a situation like this. All your references to people in the united states are very accusing and unfounded. Point in fact, I'm very sick of people making offensive comments about Americans. You have no idea what its like to live where I live, so don't create ideas in your head as to what we are all like or what living here is like. You prejudge far too often. I'm not angry at any of you, nor do I bear any animosity for any of you. I am just sickened by this way of life. I have averted death in the past a number of times. I was nearly killed in one instance. I just want to make it clear that the next time I hear a comment directed towards Californians. I will not be so easy-going in return. |
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that sounds alot like where i live. although i only live about 2 1/2 hours south of you. :) i feel your pain man. :( |
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I appreciate your sympathy. I hope you wont be subjected to any American bashing in the future, which has become such a common ritual on this mb. I actually hope you're not indifferent about it and tolerate it. |
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I have suffered this in a myriad of ways..my homeland is Afghanistan..need I say more about that..I grew up in Karachi..one of the acknowledged most violent cities in the World..there I went to a University where matters of student politics were resolved with AK47's and grenade launchers (I shit you not)..many a time were we forced to spend hours unders our desks..once I was shot at for merely wanting to cross a corridor while a shoot out was going on..I still have a scar on my arm where the bullet luckily zinged past without entering... Then 10 years ago I was in the Statesandwhile working at a fast food and pizzareia restaurant, in a troubled part of Wichita Kansas I was part of no less than 8 hold ups collectively..three of them in a single week..with a crackhead with frigteningly shaky grip was pointing a gun at my head.. so..I guess..yes..I can relate... |
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Yes Im sure you can, but i dont think i can relate to that! Thats horrible... Im sure you would be very upset if you over heard a conversation on how stupid everyone in Afganistan or Karachi is stupid because of the killings. Thats basically the equivelent of whats happeining to Americans on the mb right now. |
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heres a little sound about my dj D D D D D D M X tha tha tha tha that was fresh fre fre fresh fre fre fre fresh |
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would it be an overkill to add that I survived no less than 3 full scale tornados while living in Wichita. Living on the top floor of a building no less because the ignorant fresh off the boat foreigner that I was it didn't register that the reason the rent on the top floor was $100 cheaper was because ... yes you guessed it the building was right in the middle ofa frequent tornado alert zone so much so that the warning alarm siren was located right above my window. |
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Yes I am upset about the 10000 of my people that just lost their lives for no apparent reasons. Thanks for understanding. |
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No, unless of course you're being deceitful. I dont really know anything about you. So I cant make that assumption. |
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sure man i am jamaican !!! |
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Honest to Gods..Cross my heart and Hope to die..etc..etc..I was also working part time in the University Medical School as a janitor having to clean around the morgue twice a week.. |
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About that 10000 of youre people dying part. I suppose you were refering to those who needless died in Afghanistan. Im not sure of why you would say that, I swore off looking at the '9/11' topic. so I am assuming youre refering to that somehow. this topic wasnt made with that topic in mind. Im not going to look at it. since I am niether a European or feel as if my opinion is worth anything pertaining to that. |
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shit guys :( i live in the most cottoned society of the whole world i guess. violence here too but nothing like that. NOTHING. and i have had my share of criminality up here when i was younger so you'd think i would see something. all i have seen is hiphoppers and rockers fighting with fists :( even narcomaniacs are peaceful.... its hard for me to understand such violence. |
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I was just assuming that you were talking about it when you said this Im sure you would be very upset if you over heard a conversation on how stupid everyone in Afganistan or Karachi is stupid because of the killings but agreed I am sick to death of debating 9/11 and it's aftermath..this thread does not have to be about that.. |
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I hope not. I dont want it to turn into a sympathy plea for the US. Its more directed towards the attituded of other mb memberwhen addressing Americans in general. |
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like who dolleater ? i have rread people have harrmless digs at the US, but also at the UK and otherr countrries, no serrious hatrred. |
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hmm..I havent seen many people dissing..Americans..as people..just the govt and the policy...least of all me..I spent 4 years in theStates..made loads of friends and had the time of my life..inspite of all the hair raising adventures..:)..did I tell you about the time when I nearly got arrested for merely being a passenger in my flat mate's car who all of the sudden decided it was a cool idea to try and buy a stolen camcorder of a junkie he met at a gig..and turned out that junkie's home was under surveillence for receiving and selling stolen goods..whew..that WAS ..close... |
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I dont think it would be appropriate to name names. They know who they are. |
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ok then. well i agrree, insulting a whole countrry is not on. |
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So do you think there should be tighter gun control in the US? Because I think it's insane that you can go into a shop and buy a gun. |
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I really dont think most of the guns being used for drive-bys here are legally registered. Its not like you can walk into Seven Eleven and pick up an AK-47 with your morning coffee. "Ill take threee lotto tickest , and a husteler mag, and that 357 magnum... Could I get the serial numbers scratched off? Im in a rush thanks." |
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I was in Venice Beach when a guy pulled a gun and started to take shoots at rival gang members. Its a pretty common things in California. In Laguna two month's ago I was eating at a resteraunt and there was a guy who robbed a hotel, and shot at the police and got killed. I think its all part of living in the US and California, your going to run into that kind of thing at least once in a while. When you see a gun, run for safety thats what I say, or get a gun license of your own (I am applying for my license to carry a gun around in public legally, been shoting at the gun galleries for about a year now). |
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Unbelievable... After reading this thread i promised myself i wouldn't say anything unfriendly about americans, but this... Do you really think getting your own gun is going to solve anything? That's just adding to the problem. Don't you see it's got to stop somewhere! Now someone will one day see you carrying a gun around and think: "holy shit... everyone has a gun these days... i need one too!" And sure that's easy for me to say, safely here in the netherlands where i've never actually seen a gun been fired... But i swear this is how the world is going to end. Not with a big bang, but little by little, because no-one realises it has to stop somewhere. You could end up killing somebody, or getting killed yourself. God, i hope you were joking. You can never be sure with mickey. |
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I got my gun for self protection, no its not for solving anything, its for protecting myself. I go to the gun gallery twice a week practicing my marksmenship and train so that in the case I am help up, or a situation were I am in danger of my life, I can handle it. As I go into the downtown skid row area almost at least 5 times a week now for my job, a place where EVERYONE has a gun. This is an unvelievable concept for you because you live in a safe area and have no exposure to violence surrounded. When your living in it day to day where I work and live, you need protection. I have seen people being raped, shot at, and once even killed. So dont preach to me on your soap box, not until you see it first hand what its like here in the states. Practice gun safety and be cafefull and have a gun safe at home, the people who dont practice gun safety or dont have a clue abot guns, are usually the ones who get hurt. I am not kidding |
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I could see how you could be nervous going downtown. Especially main st. But isnt a gun a little excessive? Are you using it as a deterent or as an actually weapon? I think pepper spray could do the trick. If youre worried about the other guy having a gun. you might as well give him your wallet, rather than start a shoot out. thats just my opinion though. If a concealed weapon makes you feel safer then you are clearly in your rigth to carry one. |
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More of a deterent dolleater, I got a big can of pepper spay in my POS (piece of shit) car. I am a good shot, and have a quick draw so I am not really worried about getting in a shoot out. Hopefully I will be changing jobs soon so I can get out of downtown |
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*cough* pepper spay = pepper spray Most of the people are ok on main street, its the desperate drug addicts that are out for trouble and you gotta watch out for them, and the scitzophrenics (ack I cant spell that) haha. Downtown is such a mess |
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Yes, now imagine taking 3 buses through all of down town every day for 3 months. That was my summer. |
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The bus also passed through South Central on its way to Westchester. I had to carry a heavy portfolio the entire way. It really restricted my 'run away' tactic a lot. So I carried a knife with me. I never had to use it though, but god did I have that shit ready for action most of the time. |
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Sounds pretty bat, man. there were 5 homicides in whole Iceland 2002... That's wery high and the whole nation were devistated. Maybe you should considder moving to europe where theese things don't hapen. :P |
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Funny you say that. Just recentley LA was officially named murder capitol of the world. Hey could you spot me the money for the plane ticket? |
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heh, sorry... :P I have to pay $300 for a camera so I can take this photo class in shcool. Than I'm gonna pay $200 for an iguana (they don't come cheap in Iceland). Than I have to pay the insurance for my car $1000... After that i think i'm gonna be pretty broke. :P |
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How about I buy an iguana here and take it with me on the plane? |
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over here in australia you don't have much fear of getting shot,. just stabbed or brutaly beaten up,. both of which I've avoided narrowly a few times |
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=( i'm very spoiled when it comes to security. i live on a military installation. |
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Bashing americans? Please. I understand your suffering, but let's make it clear: crime's everywhere. You're afraid of getting shot, and I'm afraid of a bunch of 'skinheads' (as they call themselves, they really just go and kill or beat everyone with not-purely-white skin and/or listening to some foreign music and/or 'dressed like a nigger') to bash my head against the wall. Or, what is more, I'm afraid of our fucking police. They're worse. Once a friend of mine fell unconscious on the street (a diabetic strike or something), and the guys drag him to their police station and beat him up so he pissed blood, and let him go only after his sister came and paid lots of money. Just because he was lying on the street, they thought they can do whatever they want to him. Or they can stop ppl and put them to cage and hold there until they get paid. So shut up about LA, hell is everywhere. I feel really bad about it bothering you though, I thought life in America was more safe or at least more pleasant... I mean, Moscow is a dirtbag. Some really nice people, and some really nice weather. But lots of scum. And dirt. And scum. |
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Im not saying Russia is the safest place in the world, or that crime only exists in LA. C'mon that ignorant to think that. Im not saying youre ignorant, I think youre misinterpretting me. This isnt a plea for sympathy. I dont think Moscow is a big joke in the mb. If it were Im sure youd be posting some topic equivical to this one. No hard feelings of course. Im an advocate of voicing your opinion. Thanks for repsonding btw. : ) |
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Yea shit holes are everywhere. But I think LA has to at least be in the worlds top 50 shit hole list |
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I mean, of course people are to take it all light-heartedly. It doesn't have anything to do with the life they live, so why should they think about it for real. Most of these people will never get a shiny metal rod in the head... I hope. So why not let them joke about this as much as they want? Seriously, I wouldn't care if they did talk this kind of stuff about Moscow. |
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I wish I had never posted this topic. It was written right after the incident occurred. It was pretty directionless at the time. I guess what Im really trying to say is that Im just sick of being stereotyped as a gang banger . Im also sick of people spreading misconceptions about LA or Americans in general. Sorry to piss any of you off. |
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I wish I had never posted this topic. It was written right after the incident occurred. It was pretty directionless at the time. I guess what Im really trying to say is that Im just sick of being stereotyped as a gang banger . Im also sick of people spreading misconceptions about LA or Americans in general. Sorry to piss any of you off. |
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oopsie. |
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you're ok gangeater |
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L.A. is beautiful for its violence and both beautiful at the same time for its positive aspects "I loooooooove L.A........" - whatever 80's song that was |
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*I was in the middle of a pleasant conversation with one of my friends online and a bunch of shots rang out. A seamlessly never ending stream of thirty shots it seemed. I dropped to the floor. Hoping a stray wouldn't catch me in the head, roughly 5 minutes after the initial shot* I would hate to be in your shoes, lucky for NZ we have gun control laws and mostly guns are used for hunting rather than self protection. However there is casual violence as you will find in countries that dont so much arm their citizens. NZ's youth sucide rate could pertain percentage wise to US gun deaths in population. Having said that I buried my cousin Jeffrey who accidently shot himself in the head whilst he was cleaning his gun. My aunt had a nervous breakdown when the police suggested to her that he committed suicide and still cant come to terms with her sons loss. My own FLEA was a victim of a racist attack here in NZ in which he was beaten over the head 16 times with an iron bar by a guy who was let off because he djed at the prison as a community service. (b4 Sept 11) My friend and neighbor Dirk was a Joy Division fan who hung himself b4 he reached 21 in a his bedroom. |
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I can't see your point. I haven't seen anyone going on about gang banging except in this topic. I still think the culture of gun availability is crazy. Anyway, i'm not having a go. I just think your country has got it wrong on that one. Maybe it's too late to change it now. |
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far too late. its one of the original amendments. Im glad you dont see my point, then maybe I was over reacting. I probably was. I hope this thread disapears. |
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now.. . consider this.. . what happens if someone trys to beat you up, or stab you and you try to defend yourself with the gun.. . and then the criminal gets the gun and what then.. . things can allways get a lot worse. .. I obviously cant talk about these things from personal experience.. . the worst violence Ive come to was a guy that beat me up a little because he though "I" was a rascist.. . and then stole $5 (: |
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Go the Denver way, kill a friend today. |
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Scary stuff dolleater. I've been lucky enough not to have any run-ins of that nature, knock on wood. What part of LA was it? |
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