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As some of you would know as N.E.R.D. There was an argument on why they werent nominated for producer of the year on the Grammy nominations this past week. They've produced songs like: Justin Timberlake "Like I love you" Busta/P.Diddy "Pass the Courvoiser" Mystikal "Bouncin' back (bumpin me against the wall" This shows what bullshit shows like the Grammy..emmys..people choice are. Its obvious Neptunes are fucking awesome and they sell more albums and have their names all over other artist albums and they dont even get recognized. When I get into music business I'm gonna be the Iconoclast everyone needs to turn shit around! |
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they're not THAT good.. kind of formulaic, imo. |
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hmmmm names all over albums? sell lots of records? they must be awesome! just like P Diddy |
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Jeez they produce shitty pop music !? If you like the Neptunes do you like Max Martin too !? I mean he sold lots of records, I think he deserves more credit... |
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I think you meant to send this as a private email to Titsworth |
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yeah this is just bad news bears |
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"You think I give a fuck about a Grammy? / Half of these critics can't even stomach me, let alone stand me." like, seriously, if the neptunes are going to bug out about being overlooked for a grammy, what about dj premier, alchemist, da beatminerz, rza, automator, prince paul, timbaland, buckwild, muggs, dj shadow, el-p, the soulquarians, kanye west, hedrush, large professor, dj spinna, madlib, beatnuts, hi-tek, etc.! like the grammy's really mean anything other than whose label can pull the biggest bitch move. |
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yeah and they all suck anyways so boo hoo |
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They've produced songs like: Justin Timberlake "Like I love you" Busta/P.Diddy "Pass the Courvoiser" Mystikal "Bouncin' back (bumpin me against the wall" I hope one day, they will release all these productions on a Neptunes-compilation or something like that. That would be sweet. Some of these tunes are so incredible... but if i would buy the entire albums from Justin Timberlake and Britney Spears and all those... i doubt if i would enjoy those all the way through... That Pass The Courvoiser-song is just incredible! I can't stop smiling whenever it's on tv. The video is real funny too... when they get in a fight with that big woman... Busta steps on her pinky toe, and P Diddy says: "yeah! That's what i'm talking about!" Lol, it's so childish :-p But that always cracks me up. |
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you forgot the clipse - grindin. anyway, i think pharell deserves a grammy as he's been EVERYWHERE this year. |
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the neptunes are incredibly quick witted and excellent producers - in search of nerd is excerllent and that justin timberlake track is a great michael jackson update - as was slave for you by britney an update for prince .. the problem you lot have is you are funkless snobs who take things too seriously - i mean some of you even like nine inch nails :) the neptunes are ace! |
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i'd want a neptunes compilation, but all instrumental versions |
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i don't think much would be left of them in that case? I think it's easy to hear the neptunes write their tracks with vocals in mind. I bet they'd sound very dull and empty without...? By the way that N*E*R*D-album is damn hard to find! I was kinda hoping every major musicstore would have it on stock, but no... haven't seen it anywhere yet. |
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What the fuck is wrong with you people....NEPTUNES = THE SUCK ! Boring ass music mae with cheap CASIO Keyboards |
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oh god thats one of the worst video's I've ever seen. a complete "no taste zone". |
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Timbaland KICKS the Neptunes ASS! |
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errr you sorta have the idea... you're right about most of these IDM brats being funkless, unable to enjoy a good groove let alone lyrics and singing/rapping. but what's with the fucking nine inch nails beef? you really negate anything you have to say about being in tune with different types of music when you write off trent after hearing, what, 3 songs? there's a reason reznor is taught in contemporary music courses (and no one on rephlex is). |
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neptunes created some sort of new type of beats. n.e.r.d., kelis, all the others. I can almost recognize a neptunes beat by now. and I have to admit I'm getting a bit tired of it. I'm more into the dirty unfinished-like beats by rza. check the ghost dog ost for example. |
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I haven't liked RZA's recent output. Either under or over produced...and he really does need to sort out the people he has rapping over them. I think El-P passed RZA a long time ago, but he will never get the recognision because he is a white boy :) His work on his own album was amazing, but the Cannibal Ox album had some of the best hiphop beats I have heard in my whole life. |
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Must we disagree on everything qrter? :-p I'm getting more and more amazed that we actually both like idm! ;-) |
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neptunes have an awesome style but to be truthful, they owe a lot to one of their idol groups: stereolab. especially on that n*e*r*d album. i think el-p gets plenty of recognition... he's quite popular. i'd love to hear some *cough* black rappers rhyme over some of his music (other than just mr. lif). his tracks would slaughter the radio, for real. sadly i agree about mr. robert digges, not many good rza productions these last couple years... |
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I think we must. :) |
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I liked the Ghost Dog ost as well. |
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lets get something straight here, the neptunes consist of nothing more than pharrel williams. I by choice, enjoyed the NERD album, i dont care for anything else hes made though, so what if hes gone pop. either enjoy it or stop bitching about it. |
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wtf are you talking about? neptunes = pharrell williams and chad hugo. i think you just disqualified anything you have to say about the neptunes or NERD right there... |
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Essesntially anyway imo. I disqualify my self from posting on this thread anymore. Atleast give me the beifit of the doubt that I am defending them in some way. oh fuck it all. |
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lol, I think the Neptunes are cool. I think the beats they come up with manage to have both a rough feeling but still manage to be pop. I also think that, as the grammies are always given to commercially successful people, they should have been nominated. |
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I think Nerd AND Nine Inch Nails blow big fat goats dicks. And any other band beginning with 'N'. Apart from Nailbomb. |
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im now very curious to hear what stereolab sound like |
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well i beg to differ..... ;-) |
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buy emperor tomato ketchup then. what a classic. pharrell's favorite song to hear while receiving head is stereolab's "the flower called nowhere" off of dots and loops. |
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AHHHHHHHH I really like the Neptunes Too much IDM elietism and bitchery here, chill out and get laid to the wonderfull sounds of the Neptunes And go out and get me some milk while your all at it "STOP WHINING!!! GIVE ME YOUR ADRESS!!!" - Arnold Swartzenagger |
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The Neptunes suck ass... way too formulaic as was already said here... it's like I hear a song and know it's by them, which isn't a good thing in this case... I hate them, they're annoying! Timbalind is awesome though, his production is really nice... |
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Look people there's no other group like Neptunes you all say you can know its them when you hear a song...I believe that because its a good,funk,jamming sound..I listen to hip hop and theres nothing good since Method Mans "Tical" Ever rap artist sounds the same, has the same beats or steals beats...those songs that you can listen to and enjoy it without my bitch is my hoe and my babies mama is just plain good listen'...Enjoy different sounds--it seems like we have a tie on like and disklikes but those with the dislikes of N.E.R.D seem to be saying the samethings and those who are comparing NIN are going off on some tangent that I can't seem to understand |
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ghost dog was brilliant, the soundtrack was great too. now tje neptunes\nerd...not my sorta thing but I wont bash them or anything. |
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what bullshit about "idm elitism". just because someone says they don't like some non-"idm"-artist they are being elitist... come on. |
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damn the new demos are scorching.. go to the audio section of (you need a free user/password first) to hear 'em. "you're a star" is the song heard briefly at the very end of in search of. this version is a raw acoustic demo, very nice. "locked away" is another unmixed demo, very swing-like with neptunes flourishes. also on the site are some awesome remixes (zero 7's "provider", trent reznor's "lapdance") and rarities ("find a way" from a french soundtrack). |
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I love the neptunes.. but it seems they've chosen to keep their production in a stagnant state.. because artists pay to have a beat that'll sell, one that sounds almost exactly like that whihc has already sold, they use the exact instrumentation as on previous 'efforts'.. I think to myself sometimes.. the music is good , but w/ the amount of money these guys made in the last two years (they have been EVERYWHERE) you'd think they'd spice things up a little bit. the ubiquitous neptunes sound is immediately recognizable .. and you can even tell which beats were made when based on the chords used, sounds employed, etc in the track (e.g. ll's "love u better" and jay-z's "excuse me miss" .. or "pass the covousier" and "like I love you").. I liked the vibe from a lot of in search of.. but they really need some lyrical help on a lot of tracks. .. you can tell these guys are real artists though, they have good taste and it's quite odd that they and [the now extremely watered-down] timbaland [whose output is now a mere fraction of what it was a few years ago when he wasnt in demand like he is now] are so vastly embraced by a pop culture that regressed back to the boy band era about 4 years ago. (where did you read that pharell-getting-head thing?) dont get me started on bobby bobby bobby bobby, digi digi digi digi |
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by the way, the Timbaland-produced "What's The Differece" by Ginuwine (don't worry, this was from when Timbaland was an artist.. it's okay, really) was one of the first 3 tracks of his that really got me into him.. check that one |
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I dunno if somebody mentioned this, but in order to be eligable for a Grammy nomination the details of potential nominees have to be submitted to the board prior to selection. No body sent the details in for the boys, hence they weren't eligable to be in the running for the award. |
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theo, you might get a little repetitive too if you had to churn out 200+ songs a year (and that's released, not just incomplete tracks no one will ever hear). in order not to drive themselves mad they save their best ideas for themselves (n.e.r.d.), their close associates (kelis, clipse, spymob, and others on their star trak label), and favorite artists/best friends in the industry. |
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where did you read that pharell-getting-head thing? some interview on a neptunes fan site.. kid is nuts about stereolab (also steely dan, america, and some other seemingly "unlikely" bands) "what's so different?" is amazing, i loved timbo's late 90s output. most recently his tracks on the latest jay-z album were superb too ("the bounce" especially). i don't think he turned in his best work on the last missy album, which is really surprising considering they're friends of 20 years. i hear that the timberlake productions were his best in the last year or so but i haven't gotten around to downloading justified yet. braindance: you'd think virgin (n.e.r.d.'s label) would've nominated, or all those artists (ahem.. britney) the neps made millions for.. |
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I think it's done on purpose.. there are a lot of tracks that are clearly effortless retreads.. although they up their effort a bit whenever a name backed by big money is requesting their services |
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see for some reason that pharell is into those bands isnt unlikely to me.. what does seem unlikely is that he's into all the women he gets now |
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as workers for hire i doubt the neptunes really care about every artist they work with.. most of their "productions" are just previously made instrumentals passed on by other artists. as for their reputation, that's what N.E.R.D. is for.. the neptunes is just a name associated with hits, N.E.R.D. is them. they don't need to be respected as workers for hire.. they just want to make millions, make good relationships with artists they admire/respect (common, jay-z, etc.), and have fun. |
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yeah.. they even know that some of their beats really arent' THAT good.. I just saw something recently on MTV where pharell was saying that ''sometimes we give someone a beat, and they're like.. 'what is this!?''' then his asian friend chimed in with 'because it sounds like doo-doo!'.. but then he said they end up happy because it sells and ends up all over the radio.. they also showed them in the studio and chad hugo was playing this really nice acoustic guitar... why dont they use that? they constantly use that tired, cheap "guitar sound" casio type sample on everything.. it's still good but it would be great with a more organic sound speaking of common/neptunes did you notice pharell singing backup to the mary j blige part? and should the reznor remix of lapdance even qualify as a remix?? what did he do to it? |
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they do use guitar as of last year.. some artists feel it, some don't. it's not like the neps are gonna say "you don't like this guitar? fuck you, i'm out." they'll just take it out of the mix or use another instrumental and save the better one for someone else who gets it. yea i noticed pharrell's singing on "come close" the first time i heard the actual cd... really nice. reznor remixed the original, programmed version of "lapdance" so yea it was mostly reperformed from scratch... i'm sure his version gave them a good idea on how the live instrument version of in search of should sound, especially that track. |
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I just listened to the entire track.. I hadn't before.. I see his contribution now they use guitar now yes, but even now they still use the cheap synthetic sounds for earlier tracks.. maybe they're clearing out their harddrives and giving some people older tracks? ahah I actually own both versions of that in search of.. album.. and there's one beat used in an interlude after "tape you" that I remember being particularly nice.. have you heard both versions? some of the de-spymobbed versions are better |
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yea i downloaded the original when it leaked out in summer 2001.. i think i prefer the new version for every track but lapdance. and as for the neps, again, they're workers for hire.. if the artist doesn't want a track w/ live guitar then it won't be used. doesn't matter if it's fresh or old. did you download "you're a star" yet? you'll recognize that melody... |
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this is back from da dead....but pharyell is fucking everyone eclipse,snoop,jay-z |
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