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slint, bollocks. |
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autechre are by far better than aphex.i think i'll sell all my aphex cd's.and i have all of them exept druqs.overrated.yes he is important but he never wrote a masterpiece a whole record that you cann call a masterpiece.he wrote some good songs but not a masterpiece. and i think about confield and chiastic slide as 2 masterpieces not ycbyd. |
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i think afx is overrated, and gets credited for way more than he has actually done. sorry that's my opinion, not trying to flame. |
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nice to hear other opinions and that but I really wanted to hear from those who DO think afx is important and WHY they think so. |
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'Cause he is the bomb. Whut?? |
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aphex all the way, aphex brightens my day..... hes important because i like him alot. I remember when i first bought Come To Dadddy, i remember listening to it at the listening post in Sounds on Queen St, and i remember smiling and feeling happy like crazy. Also, hes done so much stuff.... Any one that churns out that much stuff does it cos they know and care about music... not all of his stuff is perfect, but when he gets it right.... oh, i love you man!!! really, its great to go on about how great he is. |
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nah, slint you are wrong, though i also like ae more than aphex and they may be more important now, but it's him who still pulls musically interested ppl over to idm or braindance or whatever. and rdj-album and druqks are indeed masterpieces.not releasing stuff does not add to his importance. he heads towards a kraftwerk status, everybody knows him but he just doesnt push forward the borders any more. however, it may be a little early to send him over the styx |
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Ok if the subject has shifted to those who compete with Aphex. I'm gonna have to say Mike P competes with Aphex and in my view is on a par with Aphex Twin and is way underrated. I personally don't think Autechre quite compare with Aphex but I haven't heard all their stuff so can't comment. However I know that certainly going on some of their stuff like 'Tri Repetae' I'd say they're there or there abouts. |
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yes he's the most famous idm artist and he's a sort of edge of an iceberg i think he's overrated but it's only my opinion. |
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humm is it the way he changed the way the worrld viewed music in turrn saving it frrom collapse and eventual destrruction orr is it his huge overrly sized penis . |
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sorrrry. its just i like the guy but some people seem to view him as morre amazing than he is. he is grreat, i know, but no superrman... |
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Well I don't know about Druks or whatever its called. To tell you the truth I haven't heard all of it yet even though I bought it for my sis. I think its ok. Not bad or anything. Yeah Aphex has done classics hell yeah. I mean how classic does a record have to be, what about Polygon Window, SAW I and SAW II? For me SAW II is his best record ever always has been always will and probably I'd say Polygon Window then SAW I after that. |
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Yeah and what about all his early hard techno stuff. The stuff from the 'Classics' release on R&S. Classic. This is interesting all the same I guess peoples who are new to Aphex obviously don't appreciate his older stuff or whatever. |
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c'mon i love some of the songs of saw 2 but there are too many fillers.he could do only one cd and he that would be his masterpiece but cd 2 exspecially has a lot of repetitive and anonimous songs. |
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slint, Yeah but that was the whole point of it. I guess either you get or you don't. At the time the whole thing about it being extremely repetative to the nth degree was part of its charm, part of its mistique. I think those who listen to SAWII and don't appreciate it, could no way have been into Aphex from the start (or early on) otherwise they'd definitely get it. You see back in the mid nineties his 'ambient' sound or whatever you want to call it was totally unique, and it just made sense. I remember Seefeel bringing out a record around the same time which was extremely similar but apart from that no one could touch him then. At the time SAW II was a revelation no two ways about it. SAW II is an extremely strong record totally stood out from other pussy ambient crap at the time. |
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yeah saw ii is fantastic but drukqs is by far my favourite. There hasn't been a week gone by since i downloaded the mp3's in August last year that I haven't listened to at least one of the tracks. It just won't get boring!!! Especially Taking Control and Meltphace 6, they are unbelievably brilliant. I'll admit that I think some of the piano pieces are filler, sound too similar, but some of them have this great haunting feeling through their simplicity that others could never manage. |
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August 2001 i mean. |
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fuck, it's time Richard released some more music! |
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well maybe i just don't get the record.but i love some of the tracks like song n.1 and 3 of the cd1..... |
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afx is important, because he has pioneered an alternative style of music. ok mike p, ae and others have been part of that, afx started it and was/is the major force behind it. plus without afx we wouldnt have things like the wicked (7\) logo and wonderful catch phrases such as "come on you cunts"(my avatar wouldnt be the same without:) finally without afx, i doubt if there would be as many (cool) people on this mb. |
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i actually think chiastic slide is far more boring than saw2.. even the more boring parts of saw2.. having said that.. i think rating artists by their 'importance' is pointless |
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that's not what I'm doing wayout, I just want to find out (for my project) the relevance and importance of Aphex Twin. This isn't so that I can rate him higher or lower due to what's posted here, that'd be a bit weak. |
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chiastic slide more boring?de gustibus non disputandum est. |
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well i haven't heard chiastic slide yet, so i can't comment on that. I've only got incunabula amber tri repetae lp5 garbage chichli suite anti gantz graf envane peel sessions 1 and some others |
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what's your project?what are you doing? |
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I just can't figure why people don't see Mike P on a par with Aphex? Yeah if you ask me Kid Spatula's 'Full Sunken Breaks' has got enough melody to smash anything I've heard from Aphex for a while so there u you go. Plus the Jake Slazenger material I rate very highly I personally think for uplifting melodies Mike P is better. |
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I can pretty much predict what Mike P's next release will sound like... not so with RDJ. Nice melodies, lush arrangements, yaddaydadda. RDJ usually throws in some weird twists... I never would have expected prepared piano tracks after Come to Daddy (but I didn't know what to expect anyway since I was so new to him when Drukqs came out). I don't know whether he'll expand even MORE on that manic drill style, or whether he'll flesh out some piano tracks more, like they deserve to be. Or maybe try going back to some more ambient stuff like he hinted at with Gwarek and Gwely. I just dunno. Tough to figure the guy out, I love that. |
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the kick ass effect his music has on people well, this mb hehe |
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exactly, and that's also what i love about ae |
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i love his smile :) |
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i love his individuality.:) |
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Ophecks, Perhaps your right about Mike P. But its also important to do music which impacts and works. I would say that Mike P's music stands out as quite different to Aphex's. According to rumours Mike's next thing is going to be quite different. I don't know I like Kid Spatula and all that too much but I'll just have to see what we get. I wasn't so big on 'Royal Astronomy'; that said I need to listen to it again. What I'd personally like from Mike is another Jake Slazenger record one which follows up from his last I don't really give a shit for new experimentation or whatever I just want something I can get down to and is just plain funky. |
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people make him important why they make him important? i'd say because he makes great music, because he's full of ideas, because he is doing stuff he likes... |
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hes punk! punk! punk! he always surpises with new styles and ideas and since i got into him in 97 he never disappopinted me... well he didnt release masses in that period, but compared to other musicians who fire off their best at the start, he really kicks ass!! i love his latest 8 releases and think they have become elementary. and ab3 is still unreached imo, (thank god it was rereleased) i wish there was more music like that especially on the dancefloor... ill have a good sleep now with my "selection of his ambient works-cd" |
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Yeah, I don't want to give the impression that I don't like Mike P... I think he's great. But he doesn't do anything too unique. RDJ pioneered a few styles and sounds, and he's a great starting point for people getting into electronic music. Kind of a hub to all the other styles, because he's done them all at some point in his career. Either way, I can't wait for either of them to release some new shit, it's been too long. |
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i never had a real interest in music until i heard him. he's been the ruler since then even the classical composers dont hit that perfect aural spot imo.. also.. the music he releases isn't his best work. merely the tip of the iceberg. |
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"he pioneered a genre and invented a stereotype of lifestyle and personality for those who followed him " describe that lifestyle & personality |
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"i never had a real interest in music until i heard him. he's been the ruler since then" that couldn't be more true for me, either, xeno. before him, i had no idea what kind of music there was out there. 'windowlicker',the first rdj i ever heard, was so different from anything i'd ever heard, and i had to find out more and more about him, and what music he made. no other artist had made me want to do this. since then, i have begun to appreciate all styles of electronica, or music in general, because he can do it all, and aphex was such a good starting point. and of course, his music led me to this board, which led to me finding out aboot tons more artists. my cd collection has tripled since i joined this board in February. maybe even quadrupled :D ======== oi, lotsa writing. congrats to you if you bothered to read this far! ^^ |
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uhm,don't touch mike p,he is great as well and some of his stuff is greater than afx stuff(tango&bluff for example).to answer to patrik also mike p,mouse on mars have a record label on their own but rephlex is rephlex,this label has produced so good records from leila,ovuca,bogdan that even warp would be proud of |
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i'm listening to ep7 wich is considered one of the weakest autechre releases but it's better than anithing aphex ever done in his life.i'm seriously planning to sell my AFX cd's. yes i'm an AE INTEGRALIST. |
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just his music. thats it. there is nothing else really, I mean... thats all hes got eh. I dont really share the same, strange feelings about him being such an amazing human being because he chooses to make "odd" music. Its just his style. I think why so many people seem to think that you like him its a life long thing and that youll always like that kind of stuff, its not true, its just a much smaller different breed of people that like it and since it is that way, it is just obvioulsy going to seem like that. but really hes no different. |
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slint, a massive project about rdj for school. |
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really?what do you study? |
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oh and i've got ep7 too. considered one of autechre's worst? whaaa? That is a fucking amazing ep/album, far better than most of Autechre's stuff. |
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i don't, i'm still at school, last year. |
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his own unique second mozart style ... |
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and do you study AFX at school? |
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haha!! no, i chose the subject, for english. |
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any1 else wanna give their opinion? |
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Mike P is nowhere near being an important electronic artist. He's done one strong album (Tango N'Vectif) He releases every single track he writes. He has no quality control, and thus his albums are full of bad jokes and silliness. He's a nerd and he spends most of his time on these chatrooms instead of being an artist. And he's never played live (he plays cassette tapes and mimes on stage). |
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