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dosl
on 2001-09-13 07:21 [#00031321]
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every warp show i've been to the artists have been running mac laptops, always the sleek titanium Ibooks.. one reason i can see thses being alot better than pc laptops is because the macs have a 128k address/data bus as opposed to the pc 32k add/data bus.. another thing is for music production in live situations i would suspect macs to be much more stable than a pc for the task.
anyone else have speculations?
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Barrett, Syd
from Toronto on 2001-09-13 07:23 [#00031326]
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BURP
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Xanatos
from NYC on 2001-09-13 07:25 [#00031331]
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I dont know but I have made the same observation with any live IDM i've seen. I guess its because Macs are better than PCs for crunching audio and video...nothing more nothing less.
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dosl
on 2001-09-13 07:30 [#00031337]
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some of the artists i've seen, particularily a guy named Slicker (quite good) seemed like his mac was just doing the playing of the bits of beats while he was doing alot of knob twiddling and other hardware toggling... more like he was just using them as midi controls on effect-outs from the beats.
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Xanatos
from NYC on 2001-09-13 07:33 [#00031342]
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It also occurs to me that many idm artists use Max/MSP for their audio graphic interfaces, if you are familiar with the program. That is Mac-Only software.
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Barrett, Syd
from Toronto on 2001-09-13 08:59 [#00031378]
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macs are better period. if i want to play games, i'll play my ps2.
NIGHTY NIGHT.
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Sound Assassin
from Patent Office UK on 2001-09-13 09:03 [#00031379]
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Not too sure about that question! I guess a mac is a bit better equipped for music, but its nothing extra you couldn't put on a PC. It does seem a bit trendy at the moment to ditch microsoft based systems for Mac based (I can completely understand this).
-BUT- remember there both as unreliable as each other!
Have fun.
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Taxi
on 2001-09-13 10:31 [#00031435]
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Macs are shit. They are more expensive, and not as strong. The reason IDMers all seem to use it, is because a lot of great sound programs are written for macs. Why? Because all the schools have macs. Why? Because there is a discount available for schools that buy macs. There is not the same offer for PC's. Anyone I talk to that know anything about computers, laughs at how many musicians use macs, because they aren't as good.
Baisically, you can get a lot of great programs for the PC. Reactor, Cubase, Fruityloops, Audiomulch, etc etc etc. are written for both macs and PCs.
Thats what I have to say. Take it or leave it.
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Taxi
on 2001-09-13 12:30 [#00031446]
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I know my information isn\'t firsthand, but the person I got most of it from is one of the best people in the industry. They travel all over north america servicing large (and small) systems for various companies. They work with both Mac\'s and PC\'s.
They put all their faith in PC\'s. They don\'t personally like bill gates or Microsoft, and don\'t believe in any of their company polocies. But they also thought macs were second class computers.
If macs do become \'the next big thing\', it wil be from flashy packaging. Not from preformance.
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fluffy bunny
from G4 vs AMD on 2001-09-13 13:13 [#00031451]
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I am a proud owner of a G4 MP533 beast.. my flat mate sports a 900 AMD machine which he was pretty proud of at the time. It is currently experiencing some major troubles (ME)
We both fuck around with audio stuff ..
Come crunch time, audio processing on cubase/protools - / ripping mp3's etc... the speed difference is absolutely clear cut = the mac is faster.
With regards to stability i am experiencing no problems!
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Barrett, Syd
from Toronto on 2001-09-13 20:47 [#00031555]
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macs are soo much better. i'm dying for one. i hate my pc. crashes all the time and shit. fuckin windows.
and i'm ont up for learning how to program linux to get a stable system.
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Xanatos
from NYC on 2001-09-13 23:15 [#00031613]
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Im on Windows XP now, its pretty fucking fast but I can't play Diablo II, it always crashes...
And I can't print because there is no driver for my printer available yet on XP, real annoying
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Ryman
from Washington on 2001-09-14 01:20 [#00031628]
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I definately think macs are the way to go if youre a graphic artist and a musician like me......But Pc's are way better for games and stuff like that, I dont care for that stuff so I got a mac!
MACS ALL THE WAY!!!
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fluffy bunny
from easter on 2001-09-14 01:23 [#00031629]
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Yeah .. I mean if you want a word processing game machine where you can download lots of cracks and that.. .windows is the way to go .. but if as you say above you are going for number/gut/audio crunching power, reliability etc.. Mac is the way to go
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((>e.V.o.L.u.M.e<))
from cold and balmy seattle on 2001-09-14 01:40 [#00031631]
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i used a mac exclusively for music but since i have moved out of my band-mate's house, i have been using a p.c.
i really liked the mac. the sampling was cleaner and the machine was faster, but i had a lot of problems with crashing. also, i could never get used to the one button mouse. i used protools and digital performer as well as medisynth and a few other programs on the mac.
I use P.C. now because i have always had a P.C. for gaming and i figured i might as well start music on it. i think it is also fucking great in that it is far more reliable. i run Acid, soundforge, fruityloops, a shitload of plugins and a couple other bits and pieces on it with out ever crashing.
for live stuff however, the mac is deffinately better. a way to use a p.c. live is to have a lot of ram.
if you want to run a p.c. i would say do not buy a packaged system like compaq or dell or whatever. build your own system or find someone who knows what they are doing and get their help. build it to tailor your own needs. THIS IS CRITICAL!! this is also is one major strength of P.C.'s; i.e customizability (is that a word?)
anyway, both are great machines if you know what your are doing and have a clear idea of how you are going to use it.
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e~e()~e
from ranch dressing please on 2001-09-14 04:09 [#00031671]
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I used to make all my stuff with a PC whihc I loved.. I liked the creative platinum card with all its ins and outs and opticals and what not..
but now haved moved onto hardware mainly, or am trying to. maybe use it to convert music to mp3's some sequencing and making CD's
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Barrett, Syd
from Toronto on 2001-09-14 04:38 [#00031673]
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reflex, as soon as you have your G4, tell me. cause i'll start saving now, but i'm gonna wait till you get one. then i'll buy one as well! cause... uh.... i'm your bitch from what i remember. monkey see, monkey do!
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