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What does everyone think of Billy Corgan's new band? I downloaded 'Honestly', it's a really good track and I look forward to getting the full album, it sounds alot like some of the older Pumpkins' stuff (which I love) |
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Check their new website too, very funky and poking fun at themselves. I can't wait for their first album. THe chemistry from all these vetran rockers is great. "Sorrow" is a killer track, also "What have they done to me" "The Empty Sea" man, even the kinda poppy song "Honestly" as you mentioned, is great. This is the band that as a Pumpkin fan, I have dreamed about. No bullshit, just rock. |
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sweet. when's the album gonna drop? I want it now! |
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I'll look, I believe it was SUPPOSED to come the end of this year, but I figure Feb 2003, I'll look |
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Zwan Album Should Be Out By Late January |
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oooooooooh, going to be packaged with a bonus DVD no less! |
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good, I'll definetly be getting it. I'm so excited! Where's their website? |
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"Mary Star of the Sea" - January 28th YEAH!!!!!!!! |
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I love their website, so cheeky |
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and the same day as 'R Kelly - Chocolate Factory' no less! That means I get to buy a great new cd while being entertained by a protest of angry mothers! yay! |
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can't wait to see the video for Honestly. Hope they make it as tounge in cheek as the webpage wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! |
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i like the new track a lot as well.. who knows what will become of them though |
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yeah... we can only hope for the best, and I for one have high hopes |
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I think they will do fine. They have ALL already done the drugs overdose thing, the binge drinking thing. This is their show, and they are vetran rockers, I think they will do whatever the hell they want to do. If their egos get in the way, well, then we have problems. They have been hard working, but very easy go lately, if they keep it up, they will hopefully be around for a while. |
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Zwan is boring |
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i think their colors, age and ability show them to be anything resembling unexciting, but whatever blows your skirt up |
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i don't think that makes any sense -------------------------------- i think their colors, age and ability show them to be anything but unexciting yeah |
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Explain what colors and age have to do with their sound? |
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they aren't tied up in the same BS that every other band is. Bands are boring because they follow formulas. An aged, veteran rock band, doesn't have to do that becuase they've done it before. It's clear in all their colorful shit that 80's throwback isn't their style, but their poking fun at the very boring formula that they've all pursued before. Get in on the joke and enjoy the noise that is their soundtrack |
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Thanks but no thanks. I enjoy listening to musicians who are serious about the music they make. Rock is dead anyways, its time to reinvent it. Tool is a good example of this. |
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ok, I don't know how you an I can determine who is serious about their personal music making, but whatever. Everyone always says rock is dead. Who cares? Unless you are listening to the radio all day, wtf do you care who says what about musical trends? And I don't know what you are talking about referencing tool. |
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haha i loved hearing about billy kicking that used punk's arse |
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smashing pumpkins used to be my favorite band but im kinda skepitcal on this, ill wait and see before i buy it. |
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doesn't zwan have dave pajo out of slint in it? i proper like slint, am curious to listen to zwan if this is the case (and even if it isn't) i think i read he was though.. |
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Zwan does have Dave Pajo of slint/tortoise/papa m/palce... Matt Sweeney from Chavez is also in zwan. I'm looking forward to hearing more zwan just because the two of them are plaing in the band |
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paz from "A Perfect Circle is also a member wheeeeeeeeeeeeee! |
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yeah david pajo is in zwan. i don't know slint, shamefully enough. apparently the other members of zwan considered him some kind of god, according to one of the 'reviews' on zwan.com. one of the zwan homemovies from zwan.com is an acoustic solo performance by pajo. homemovie #4, i believe |
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im wondering what kind of a name zwan is. i think the name sucks. but who cares, as long as the music's good. |
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ditto, name is a let down, but check the site, doesn't look like they are taking themselves to seriously/they don't give a shit music is great imo, so yeah, who cares |
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i think they do take themselves seriously, judging by interviews and the first single honestly, which is a desperate attempt (i think) to score a huge hit among teenieboppers. the whole site/album design with the rainbows and birds (very 70s) serves as a trademark, easily recognisable. they want to come off as a brand, i think. i don't mind. i have high hopes for the new album as they're all very talented musicians. but why is the european release two weeks after the worldwide release?? they want to conquer america and leave it at that, maybe? |
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cheers netlon i will check out the movie. you have to hear slint my friend. i have the untitled ep (called glenn/rhoda sometimes?) and spiderland. they both kick serious arse. pretty serious, interesting time signatures. i think they were a large influene on mogwai and i love mogwai. get spiderland though. track 1 breadcrumb trail is my fave. and good morning, captain is great too. |
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that is an interesting take, the branding idea. I really don't know, you could be right. Either way, I really hope this album lives up to their combined potential. |
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yes david pajo of slint and tortoise is with them but i think smashing pumpkins sucked and pale if compared with bands like slint and tortoise and billy corgan is an egomaniac wich never wrote a decent song. go to listen to slint's "washer" that's a song....not zero. |
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hmm maybe i'm a bit fanatic......auhauah |
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little bit....... i think it's just different style, different strokes. You can't say the pumpkins weren't talented, even if there stuff was more mainstream than good underground groups. Egos? Well, I don't know, being in an arena rock band would do that to you. Check songs like "Set The Ray to Jerry" "Starla" and "Mayonaise" then say he didn't write good shit. I do understand your point though, just saying they made lots of quality tracks. |
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check out mary star of the sea here... http://www.zwan.com/livezwan/ there best song imo |
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wow i think everyone says exactly what you said about their favourite band :P can't argue over taste, and blatant echo is right with the songs he mentions smashing pumpkins are the best example of a band whose singles are completely not representative of the albums they came from. (<- strange sentence) hannibal: thanks for the spiderland tip! although i hate digging in the past... makes me realize i missed quite a lot ;) |
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oh but you MUST get all slint.. not only spiderland and the untitled 12", also Tweez - their first LP. loud as fuck. david pajo is pretty brilliant - all his papa m stuff is top notch. I really don't believe this brand-crap. especially someone like pajo - he's always just gone and done what he likes. |
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"I really don't believe this brand-crap. especially someone like pajo - he's always just gone and done what he likes. " but billy corgan sees himself as some sort of visionary. i'm sure his plan is to sell, sell, sell. the good thing is, with these artists it's actually going to be awesome commercial music i think his fellow band members were smart enough to finally start making some money. even (or particularly) pajo :P |
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qrter i'd be grateful if you named some papa m songs to checkout.. i love tortoise and slint (don't care for zwan tho, sorry guys) |
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don't get me wrong, i really haven't made up my mind about zwan. i've only heard honestly. impossible to base an opinion on hearing one song or shabby sounding live recordings |
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grow you hair billy and play good songs again like on "gish" |
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sure, tits.. lets start with his first incarnation: aerial m - this is all instrumental and pretty beautiful. I'd go for the first LP: "aerial m". the WHOLE LP is good, but some good tracks: "dazed and awake", "compassion for m". and lets jump to his last LP, under the name Papa M: "whatever, mortal". more singing on this one. go for the tracks: "krusty" (with the Simpsons playing in the background), "many splendored thing", "sabotage" (which reminds me a lot of slint..). he made a lot more albums and even more singles. from the singles you could try and find mp3s of the "Songs for Mac" ep - "so warped" and "the person and the skeleton". especially the last one.. also check out . just read that Pajo played in Stereolab for 6 months and then decided to play in Tortoise. man, he's been EVERYWHERE! he says some nice things about Mary Hansen and says he wrote a track for her, an instrumental - so that could well be "compassion for m".. if you're having trouble finding some of this stuff, let me know, I'll encode some tracks to mp3 and put them on slsk. |
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oops, made a mistake.. my recommendation from the "whatever, mortal" LP should be "glad you're here with me" instead of "many splendoured thing" (although that ones good too..).. |
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thanks a lot qrter! you don't have to spread your legs for me though, you've been nice enough already! |
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give us a kiss then.. |
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hello - slint were possibly the greatest band ever. no one can touch them. however - which one was dave pajo - i never knew their names |
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Downloaded some mp3s, it's catchy, i'm going to check out more....I like what I hear though ( on the basis of catchy rock tunes) |
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groit muzeek is this : ) |
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just got the 2LP. It's an awesome record. You need to listen to for 4 or 5 times in a row, it really starts to grow on you. |
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