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Cabbog
from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-12-13 10:35 [#00479883]
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Look for me! Young, B Cruisin down the westside - high, way Doing what we like to do - our, way Eyes behind shades, this necklace the reason all of my dates been blind dates But today, I got my thoroughest girl wit me I'm mashin the gas, she's grabbin the wheel, it's true to the heart She rides with me - the new Bobby and Whitney Only time we don't speak is during "Sex and the City" She gets Carrie fever, but soon as the show is over She's right back to being my soldier Cuz mami's a rider, and I'm a roller Put us together, how they gon' stop both us? What ever she lacks, I'm right over her shoulder When I'm off track mami is keepin me focused So let's, lock this down like it's supposed to be The '03 Bonnie and Clyde, Hov' and B
All I need in this life of sin, is me and my girlfriend. Down to ride 'til the very end, it's me and my boyfriend. All I need in this life of sin, is me and my girlfriend. Down to ride 'til the very end, it's me and my boyfriend.
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Cabbog
from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-12-13 10:36 [#00479885]
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Does anyone own 'The Blueprint 2'? What do you think?
*owl hoots in the distance
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-12-13 10:43 [#00479894]
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I think he's a sad excuse for a ''Jay''.
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Cabbog
from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-12-13 10:46 [#00479901]
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Pffffft!!!
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-12-13 11:01 [#00479911]
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i'm not a big Jay Z fan.....now J LIVE is a different story......ehehhe
i like the chorus!
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2002-12-13 11:26 [#00479938]
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two big thumbs down, get some "real" hip-hop instead
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Cabbog
from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-12-13 11:55 [#00479961]
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:(
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-12-13 12:01 [#00479968]
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the chorus is stolen from a 2pac song called "me and my girlfriend"
the bridge is stolen from a prince song called "if i was your girlfriend"
kanye west's production is tight on the song though
i give jay-z "the blueprint 2" a 2 out of 5 star rating. wasn't worth the $10 i paid for it. the neptunes' wackest production ever. best song on there though is "the watcher 2" with the god rakim.
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-13 12:09 [#00479977]
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god whats with all these "producers" ripping off the b-sides of other hip-hop songs. For christs sake, is nothing sacred anymore. Did people really become this greedy and lazy? Jeezus, I turned on the radio recently and heard this shite rnb crap over a B.I.G b-side, WTF. And that new J-lo track is sampling not one... but at least three other old hip hop songs... damn. I want to find these "producers" and just bitch slap them to death!!!!!!!!!!!
AAARRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHH!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-13 12:16 [#00479989]
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"Did people really become this greedy and lazy?"
yes.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-12-13 12:18 [#00479994]
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well unlike ashanti's producer(s) taking the biggie instrumental (which itself is a looped segment of "stay with me" by el debarge) and just having the girl sing over it, the "'03 bonnie & clyde" instrumental has nothing to do with anything 2pac or prince; the music's original, just the choruses (melody and some words) are borrowed. that's more creative than some other recent tactics (like j. lo's new song ripping off beats from boogie down productions and da beatnuts). kanye west is a great producer.
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-13 12:26 [#00480004]
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Buts its fackin everywhere... not just on the two tracks you mentioned titsworth. Its like a evil goddamn lazy virus. I want to see some creativity happening, and not just with timbaland, n.e.r.d, swiss beats... and maybe five others....
ack!
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child810
from boston (United States) on 2002-12-13 12:33 [#00480011]
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yeah but aren't you interested in the rumors that Jay z is banging the girl from destiny's child....huh huh aren't you? I am, these creative talents put together could evolve music to a whole new level. he he
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DaWeeze
from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2002-12-13 12:33 [#00480012]
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Can we please move past the bling-bling, pimpin them hos, mack daddying the lo-ride phase of hip-hop and move on to something fresh PLEASE!
I might start listening again...maybe...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-12-13 12:34 [#00480014]
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those are the 2 tracks YOU mentioned. i agree that it's everywhere. i could name some other creative producers if you really like?
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-13 12:45 [#00480019]
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"Can we please move past the bling-bling, pimpin them hos, mack daddying the lo-ride phase of hip-hop and move on to something fresh PLEASE! "
YES! Please, lets move on....
what I really would like titsworth, is for prefuse73 to hit it big and see HIM or other underground hip hop people on MTV and spammed all over radio, people who actually have something to say and some degree of drive to do something new... and have a message.
I could name more producers also... but it would probubly end up in a pissing match .... and I dont really dig mainstream hip hop coming out today that much anyway.
Nas ass raped Jay-Z with his last album.
"your a slave to a page in my rhyme book...."
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-12-13 12:46 [#00480021]
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electronic music board?
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-13 12:47 [#00480023]
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Hip hop has loads of electronic elements in it.
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Cabbog
from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-12-13 13:43 [#00480067]
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Dr.Dre was my first and I always end up comparing everything to him... He still topples all the competition too. Something about his style is so..so.. I don't know. Thick? It's almost tangible.
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-12-13 14:50 [#00480150]
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jay z sucks
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-12-13 14:51 [#00480153]
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jiggaman ya heard!
i must say, he only deserves about 5% of his fame and 1% of his accolades for his talent, but he's such a smart business man! he's not a bad rapper just nothing special. i could name 100 rappers i'd rather see famous.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-12-13 15:19 [#00480175]
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go jump a waterfall please
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thethirdball
from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2002-12-13 15:23 [#00480179]
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Are you kidding? The Blueprint (part 1) is my vote for hip hop album of the year!
Anyone who hasn't heard it shouldn't judge it - those who have know what I'm talkin' about.
Hip hop isn't just Def Jux releases kiddies.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-12-13 15:25 [#00480180]
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we're talking about The Blueprint 2 from last month. different album.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-12-13 15:27 [#00480182]
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but, hip-hop for 2001, in my opinion:
1. DJ Krush - Zen 2. Saul Williams - Amethyst Rock Star 3. N.E.R.D. - In Search Of... 4. D12 - Devils Night 5. Jay-Z - The Blueprint
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thethirdball
from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2002-12-13 16:22 [#00480278]
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"what I really would like titsworth, is for prefuse73 to hit it big and see HIM or other underground hip hop people on
MTV and spammed all over radio, people who actually have something to say and some degree of drive to do something
new... and have a message."
I think Kweli's new album delivers on this. The problem is that people don't want to hear stuff like Prefuse - they want jiggy - that's what's popular.
Oh and titsworth - I know you were discussing Blueprint 2 - I was referring to people dissing Jay Z in general above.
Talib Kweli's Quality didn't make the top 5?
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Cabbog
from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-12-13 16:23 [#00480280]
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Was that in reply to Dre or Jay?
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Cabbog
from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-12-13 16:24 [#00480282]
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How about top 5 hip-hop records of all time?
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thethirdball
from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2002-12-13 16:33 [#00480295]
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Now that's impossible - but here goes (from my limited knowledge of hip hop)
If I had to pick just 5:
Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
Dr. Dre - The Chronic Nas - Illmatic Wu Tang Clan - Enter The (36 Chambers) Outkast - ATLiens
I don't know ... I had to leave out so many great ones - it's just too tough.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-12-13 16:36 [#00480301]
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quality is 2002. it just came out!
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-12-13 16:38 [#00480312]
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dre-jay, shay-nay-nay!
no, it was in response to jay-z (i own 3 of his albums).
i don't do favorite albums of all time lists
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-12-13 16:39 [#00480313]
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The only hip hop album I have is Stankonia, and it's da shit!
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Cabbog
from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-12-13 16:40 [#00480315]
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Come on you weenie! Gimme 5 essential hip-hop albums then.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-12-13 16:42 [#00480318]
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lol
cabbog: no! judge by who i talk about on here, whose upcoming albums are on my release dates page, who i play on my show..
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-12-13 16:42 [#00480319]
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If you like Stankonia, you should check out ATliens and/or Aquemini, both top albums from my favorite rap group of all time, Outkast
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-12-13 16:45 [#00480327]
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i will say this much: aquemini by outkast is my fave hip-hop album and one of my top 5 favorite albums of all time.
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Cabbog
from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-12-13 16:47 [#00480333]
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Argh.. Whatever T. I didn't like The Roots new cd that much and I bought it entirely on your recommendation.
..So nyeah!
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-12-13 16:49 [#00480338]
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keep listening! the first 2 tracks, 1 is like 20 seconds long right? anyway, you're not gonna like every album or every song on an album, but i like the roots cd a lot. i'll post my "top 20 of 2002" in a couple weeks!
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Cabbog
from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-12-13 17:40 [#00480415]
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Yes. The first 3 are my favorite.. What's wrong with the board? I used the search engine to locate your old battles with ArchRival but it won't let me view them. "Bad Request" it says.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-12-13 17:54 [#00480427]
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tracks 1 and 3 don't even make a full 60 seconds. what didn't you like about quills? thought @ work? the seed?
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Cabbog
from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-12-13 18:11 [#00480433]
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I don't know.. I'm a carnivore when it comes to hip-hop - the meatier the better. I can't believe Jack Dangers is a vegetarian.. I don't mind the swollen ego or misogynistic attitude either; in fact I can even relate to a lot it! Sensual beats are a must as well..
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-13 18:11 [#00480434]
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"Stankonia, and it's da shit! "
YES!!!!! I love this release!!!!!!!
Outkast, I love em, ATLiens was kick ass also!
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-12-13 18:13 [#00480435]
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buy the new talib kweli album then. you'll love the kanye west, jay dee, and hedrush produced tracks. quality: $8.99 @ best buy.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-12-13 18:23 [#00480444]
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also buy dead prez's debut album "let's get free". if venetian snares were black, the instrumentals for that album would be the tracks he'd make. (the whole album was produced by dead prez with hedrush.)
the lyrics are all black power, anti-capitalism, anti-commercial hip-hop, anti-police, etc. if you can block out misogynist lyrics then you should be able to block these lyrics out too (unless you happen to agree with them, which i do).
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Cabbog
from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-12-13 18:24 [#00480445]
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Could you give me a track title you think well-represents the flavor of the album? Like to try before I buy.
I'll give 'Phrenology' another listen later tonight..
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-12-13 18:30 [#00480450]
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talib kweli: both megaherz tracks: rush gun music a kanye west tack: good to you a jay dee track: where do we go the dj quik track: put it in the air
dead prez, try out: i'm a african they schools police state
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-12-07 14:07 [#00980876]
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i feel weird bumping a Cabbog topic but it's the only one i could find called "jay-z".. rest in peace
anyway, here's a nice free 2CD collection of jay-z remixes done by some college student/hip-hop fan.. they're all original music using jay-z a capellas. really nice, i'm impressed. to download this you should like jay-z or just be really curious about remixes.
click
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-12-09 20:57 [#00984128]
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if peepz haven't listened to Jay Z's new album.....BLACK ALBUM that is, it FREAKIN' OwNzzzzzzzzzzzzz
listen to Encore - my fav track that i've heard so far!!!!!
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strollop
from pleasure on 2004-11-02 03:25 [#01379426]
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phobia manlover
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