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e~e()~e from somewhere on 2001-09-05 23:19 [#00029706] | |||||||||
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does anyone know anything about harware on here? I want to buy a sequencer.. what exactly does a sequenecer do? and why do I need one? help |
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gosh from sweden on 2001-09-05 23:22 [#00029709] | |||||||||
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u can use your computer as a sequenser.. or u can buy a hardware one. it's proberbly easiest to sequense on the computer... with for example cubase vst and a midiinterface hooked up to some nice gear :) |
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|REFLEX| from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2001-09-05 23:23 [#00029710] | |||||||||
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many questions.. I know a bit after doing lots of reading and testing....... disfony/djfony/mike b can tell you much info about this. if your going mainly or all hardware, then a sequencer is essential ofcourse, but you will need other things, to "run" through it. thats what you do, run sounds, beats whatever through it, splice, rearrange, organize, edit and make shit with it.. simple explination. |
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e~e()~e from somewhere on 2001-09-05 23:35 [#00029713] | |||||||||
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yeah i new that... I have equipment, but was wondering how I get sounds I like down to keep or tracks I like... does a sequencer, record your soudns you make with liek say a synth, then you can play it back or what? |
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|REFLEX| from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2001-09-05 23:51 [#00029715] | |||||||||
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depending on what you use.. yes it will simply record the sounds you make them, they way you make them, kind of like a third party final product. |
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hevquip from an egren's coffee shop on 2001-09-05 23:51 [#00029716] | |||||||||
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yes, a sequencer records your sounds and runs everything in a timed manner basically. if you have something like a keyboard, you plug a midi cable into the "out" jack and the other end into the "in" jack on the sequencer. you select a channel on the sequencer to record on, then make sure the keyboard is sending on the same channel. press record on the sequencer and then play the keyboard. the midi notes are being sent from the keyboard into the sequencer where they are being stored for later playback. with hooking up a cable from the "out" jack of the sequencer, and the other end in the "in" jack on the keyboard, pressing play will have the sequencer send the previously recorded midi information into the keyboard, playing back what you recorded earlier. you can hook up multiple pieces of hardware to a sequencer: one at the in jack, one at the out jack, one at the through jack. you can sync everything together so they play at all the right times, get a certain instrument to play when you want, change what sounds a synth is using, change what a synth is playing, etc. a sequencer is a very useful and powerful editing and recording tool. |
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|REFLEX| from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2001-09-05 23:52 [#00029717] | |||||||||
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Sure is. |
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hevquip from an egren's coffee shop on 2001-09-05 23:55 [#00029718] | |||||||||
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buy hardware, not software, or we will have you killed |
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|REFLEX| from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2001-09-05 23:58 [#00029720] | |||||||||
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hevquip: you know it |
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e~e()~e from somewhere on 2001-09-05 23:59 [#00029721] | |||||||||
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REflex heavyequip.. thanks guys.. lots of help.. so then the sequencer..does it record the actual sound comming from the keyboard, or sampler, when ever I hook my midi up to my computer sequencer, it only plays sound that the computer has.. which are usually GAY!! so then the sequncer will actually record say a drum loop from my er-1 so later, I can replay it and tweek it or adjust it more from the sequncer, or if played back thruogh into the er-1 tweak it from that?? correct? why then would I need a mixer |
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e~e()~e from somewhere on 2001-09-06 00:01 [#00029722] | |||||||||
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dont worry im becomming hardware only...whats a recommended sequencer? qy-70??? |
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|REFLEX| from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2001-09-06 00:01 [#00029723] | |||||||||
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that is correct sir. usually a mixer, or mix board, if for.... live stuff, or rather other types of musicical instruments. usually. |
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|REFLEX| from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2001-09-06 00:05 [#00029724] | |||||||||
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I myself am I getting the Roland Studio pack... located here. Sequencing, Record, Master...... all in one. Insert hardware board into computer, install software interface, and your jamming. |
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Ellies on 2001-09-06 03:31 [#00029739] | |||||||||
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does anyone here actually use the qy70 or qy100? |
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e~e()~e from somewhere on 2001-09-06 03:34 [#00029740] | |||||||||
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i dont understand how the sequencer records the sound from your keyboard, synth, sampler, drum machines thorugh the midi?? or does it just record the action not the sound? I am thinking about getting a qy70 and stay away form software all together I heard Squarepusher doesn't use any software.. |
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Quoth from Berlin on 2001-09-06 04:23 [#00029763] | |||||||||
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the sequencer was designed to send/receive/pass through all MIDI signals allowing everything that has MIDI capabilities to be on the correct beat with the correct time changes, pitch, tone, rhythm, effects, and starting stoping points. the best one that i've found and own is the Yamaha RM1X. this machine basically lets you do anything that you want to... edit, create beats/patterns, and let you add on stuff... hence it comes w/16 tracks. |
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Ellies on 2001-09-06 04:30 [#00029768] | |||||||||
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don't be fooled though..the qy70 cannot sample. it will transfer data. but you won't be able to take sounds from other things and play them in the sequencer..Actually tom used to use something by yamaha that was a little like the QY series aside from the fact it had a real keyboard and could sample..It was more so a sampler than a sequencer..I can't recall the model name though..sorry |
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((>e.V.o.L.u.M.e<)) from cold and balmy seattle on 2001-09-06 04:37 [#00029772] | |||||||||
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for p.c.'s i prefer acid as a sequencer accompanied by some kind of wave editor. the waves can be plugged right in and effects and shit can be laid on top fairly easily. for mac's i had a lot of good luck with digital performer. in a lot of ways it is easier than acid and the sound seems cleaner but then again, some people hate the mac... i had a friend that threw away his sequencer all together and still makes pretty good stuff however it is far from being dancy or even head bobby. |
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((>e.V.o.L.u.M.e<)) from cold and balmy seattle on 2001-09-06 04:45 [#00029774] | |||||||||
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oops sorry you said hardware not software. i don't know anything about hardware. i have none except my pc and turneys |
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e~e()~e from under quoths bed on 2001-09-06 04:53 [#00029779] | |||||||||
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hey ellis? so it doesnt actaulyl record sound then just data? that you can play back into your equipment or what why use a sequencer then? |
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Ellies on 2001-09-06 06:23 [#00029789] | |||||||||
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Well that particualr sequencer only deals with data..However you could always transfer the data onto something else and finish the song there. For it's price the qy70 does some good stuff, but if you are looking to sample as well you might want to look into akai.mpc series. the qy700 might have a sampler but I'm not sure..I've never really liked the rm1x and have opted to stay away from it. You can actually come up with great beats in the qy70 and everything is editable. I just think most of the stuff aside from beats in it kind of sucks..but like I said everything is editable and if you enjoy tweaking you might be able to find something you like.. |
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hevquip from an egren's coffee shop on 2001-09-06 17:03 [#00029854] | |||||||||
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sequencers record midi data, not sound. so if you press a key corresponding to a D note, it records the midi information that says "this particular D key is being pressed and this is for how long it is being pressed." the sequencer can send that information back to a keyboard telling it to "press" or sound whatever D key you pressed earlier and recorded. there are midi controllers, which are keyboards without their own sound generators, but when you hook it up to another keyboard, what you play on the controller is played on the other keyboard with whatever sound you selected. |
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hevquip from an egren's coffee shop on 2001-09-06 17:09 [#00029856] | |||||||||
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for sequencing i have an alesis mmt-8. it's very simple to use. i have two, but i've been trying to sell one. i want another sequencer to use too though, so maybe i'll look at these qy things and i've been considering something from roland |
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e~e()~e from n on 2001-09-06 17:46 [#00029859] | |||||||||
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i have been looking into the akai mpc2000 series either the xl or maybe the 60 or 60II... they are sequncers and smplers with tons of storage.. the thing is I have equipment but no way to store the stuff together on.. so I wa just kind of wondering what I needed. I want something I can load my drum track on, play it, do a little thing on my sampler, play it and then add my synth to it.. then be able to edit and tweak what I recorded, is this possible? |
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thorpe from aus on 2001-09-06 19:02 [#00029873] | |||||||||
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you want a multitrak, not a sequencer. a sequencer just sends midi/data to your synths/drum machines, so while it plays the notes, you can tweek the knobs. to record, you'll want a multitrak recorder. these can be hardware = digital multitraks or you can get them as software eg sonic foundrys acid. things like cubase and cakewalk sequence aswell as record audio. thing is, wherever possible go for hardware. im running sonic foundrys vegas [sooped up version of acid] but i cant really record more than 12 stereo traks without it stuttering. theres also trackers around that can sequence midi gear. |
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hevquip from an egren's coffee shop on 2001-09-06 19:36 [#00029875] | |||||||||
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the sequencer that i have, the alesis mmt-8 is pretty good for what you want to do i think. it doesn't record sound though, but i have a tascam mixer/recorder for that. you record your data on to one of eight tracks. when the first track has what you want on it, you record on the second. there is a total of eight tracks to record on. they're real cheap too. about 75-100 bucks. i have one i'd sell you for 65 bucks if you're in the states. some of the edges of the buttons are worn. i find it useful for something like drums. i'll record and beat on my hr-16, then record some more beats and drum sounds on the mmt-8. so the hr-16 is always going, unless i stop it, and i can add or take away my other beats with the mmt-8. |
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hevquip from an egren's coffee shop on 2001-09-06 19:37 [#00029876] | |||||||||
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oh yeah, autechre use mmt-8's too! |
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rivell mapherm from CH on 2001-09-06 20:40 [#00029879] | |||||||||
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Autechre uses Nordlead I & II, and i saw an access virus, but i didn't know which type of them. so look at one bogdan raczynski album, on the "thinking of you"....there are voices generate with "shittalker" it's freeware. |
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hevquip from an egren's coffee shop on 2001-09-06 21:32 [#00029886] | |||||||||
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nords are very nice, too bad that they're so expensive. |
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e~e()~e from n on 2001-09-06 22:49 [#00029900] | |||||||||
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thining about a fostex vf-08... for recording... do I really need a sequencer? how would I get this alesis from ya if I was interested? |
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((>e V o L u M e<)) from seattle washington U.S.a on 2001-09-07 03:22 [#00029933] | |||||||||
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we use a nord lead on most of our golgiapparatus stuff (mp3.com/golgiapp) but that belongs to the other half of golgi so i gotta use pc only for my "solo" stuff. but let me say, that machine is fucking great. it makes the coolest noises though. one thing that sucks about it is that it only has 4 tracks out. maybe the nord II and nord III (released yet?) have more? also nord I has no effects so we mostly have to make noises and sample em then tweak em with software. lots of knobs to twiddle so it works well live. it has a digital memory card too and that thing holds like 300 custom sounds and 10 drum banks (i think its 10). the cards come in and out and cost about 25 bucks. if you can get a nord used, for not too expensive, it has limitless possibilities providing you aren't too dependant on midi. does anyone know anything about the roland knobby synth? i don't remember what it's called but if you know what i am talking about, how does it compare to the nord or other "knobby" synths? |
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hevquip from an egren's coffee shop on 2001-09-07 16:34 [#00030035] | |||||||||
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if you want to buy that sequencer, first go to sonicstate.com and read up on it. my email is coda27@hotmail.com if you want to get a hold of me. i'll probably let it go for 65 bucks. |
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e~e()~e from n on 2001-09-07 18:50 [#00030053] | |||||||||
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yeah I know all about that sequencer already, sonicstate is like a second home for me. tanks for the offer but I am getting am roland mc50 mkII... suppose to kick booty tail as far as sequencers go |
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hevquip from a giraffes throat on 2001-09-07 19:17 [#00030066] | |||||||||
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yeah, i'd like to get one of those roland sequencers too, the one you mentioned, to sequence my stuff a little differently. the mmt-8 is not for really complicated music. more of long ambient and soft stuff. |
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Id Lab from The Untitled Kingdom on 2001-09-07 21:45 [#00030091] | |||||||||
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I use a PC for most sequencing, then transfer stuff to a Roland MC-500 for live use. It's not the best - very limited in realtime control, and it only saves to DSDD disks, which are hen's teeth - but it does the job and it means I don't have to take my computer on stage. This would be a very bad idea. |
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Quoth from Berlin on 2001-09-07 21:50 [#00030094] | |||||||||
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ID Lab: let me know about your gigs... I'd love to come and see one... I enjoy your music greatly |
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e~e()~e from n on 2001-09-07 22:40 [#00030101] | |||||||||
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i used to use my pc.. but want to free it up and plus I want to be a mainly hardware artist and use less software..... |
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