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you know what i've noticed? there are so many girls who love a certain band to death. this is especially true for local/regional bands that they can actually hang out with. their lives are just dominated by their following of and kinship with this band. why aren't these music-loving females IN the fucking bands?!? think about it, music (eg: rock) isn't really a "boy's club." there just seems to be so little interest on the girl's part in forming or joining a band. why is it that they're content following a band instead of playing in one? |
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Maybe they're more interested in the guys than the music itself... that's usually the case. They don't like Brandon Boyd because of his song writing, that's for sure. |
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rock IS a boys club. where have you been? |
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thats a good question, i think a lot of girls think that its not really for girls to do for some strange reason so they dont try in the first place. i think that if more and more began to be in music than more would follow. |
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i agree with ophecks too, it seems many girls care more about looks rather than substance...seems to me like the majority of the girls i know. |
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in-band girls are always a plus ;) |
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caught a group just last night, punk rock group that was 3 girls and a male drummer. The female guitarist played behind her back, guitar upside down. Something like that, I play the guitar, and I don't even think that is possible. Eyeliners is the band |
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Hendrix used to do it all the time, hell he allegedly played the guitar with his dick at a show once and didn't even miss a beat (no pun intended) |
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my 2 cents.... perhaps they (like me oddly enough) think that the rock world/music world is an old boys club. that any woman trying to make in the industry will have to suck it up to get anywhere. maybe it's easier to 'be with' the band than 'be the band' .....it's an interesting observation! |
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that was my point too. it is a boys club. its harder work for a woman to get recognized than a man. |
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The most interesting women in music ignore the rules of the game and make their own game, like Chicks on Speed. |
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qrter: it's not a boy's club. anyone can buy an instrument, anyone can learn it and play it freely. there're lots of females in music, just not as many as they should be. just cos they're not as popular as male bands doesn't mean they don't exist. but i think the absence of popular female bands is a factor deterring girls from joining or forming bands. i don't think they just follow regional bands for the boys' looks, i know lots of girls who are head over heels over the music. i just don't see why they don't give it a shot themselves. it's not like girls aren't creative. look at the art and fashion worlds. dunno why music (and movies, outside of acting) are neglected. |
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touche still, they didn't rock the stage as hard as the guys did. They seemed a bit more tame, though the crowd was too busy digging the fact that chicks were rocking the set |
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what I meant was, the music industry is a boys club. its hard for a woman to get noticed etc. |
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fuck an industry, i'm talking about music. don't you know girls like the ones i'm talking about? |
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well.....some stuff i know about the art/architecture world....and the clothing design world. VERY few women really make it. as an exercise try to think of the top 3 females in those fields.....it won't be as easy as it sounds. right now i can think of the top 10 men in those fields.....what does that say.....that it's a MANS WORLD.....GRRLS need to populate VENUS!! |
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GRRLS... are you 12 now? ;P only teasing |
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This is true... I know a girl that used to follow a local band arround everywhere they went... She also "slept" with all the members. She grew out of this though, or did she stop after the band did? I forget. |
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this girl followed a local band........... a FEMALE local band???/ if so, dear god, turn back the clocks! |
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I think most girl rock groups are seen as a bit of a novelty (I actually know a couple of girls with this opinion!) by the mainstream, much the same way female DJs are. The only really good all girl group I've seen were whoever it was that warmed up for DIV on their last tour. Sadly they were all unattractive or plain looking and hence don't get the publicity they deserve... |
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i wouldn't doubt it! sometimes when he's totally tranced out in the music his guitar takes on a very phallic quality. i saw this performance of foxy lady (on dvd) and he was all sexy on his guitar, thought it might miraculously ejaculate. |
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courtney love is such a great embassador |
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I love girls me! |
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Yes, the way she got Billy Corgan to write all her good material really makes you take her seriously ;) |
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i have absolutely no respect for any musician, female or male who has someone else write their music and is basically just famous because of their looks and/or the fact that they are friends with other famous people.. |
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Donna's rock Target commercials. Madonna has ANOTHER album out. Whose complaining. Maybe in electronic there are less women. My theory is that its due to alpha-male chest-beating tendencies. In being associated with things "intelligent" or "experimental" there is maybe a genetic possibililty of attracting through the association of newness and mystery. In the process the male may find out that they are more in love with the music than the women and the game is up. The other theory is that maybe women just feel too deeply to express themselves through machines. |
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maybe women just feel too deeply to express themselves through machines i don't see how that would be any different than them expressing themselves through non "machine"-aided music, art, poetry, film etc.. where women are sometimes equally as good.. |
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women don't feel deeper than men do, but there is cultural expectation for men to deny what they feel more so than women. the differences between us are more culturally based than biological than you might think. besides, our bodies are machines, machines are our bodies. the differentiation we make between self and other is strictly utilitarian, symbolic and not real. |
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i agree for the most part, but it's also true that women can feel certain emotions more strongly at times because their bodies can release a larger amounts of endorphins especially during maternal activities like childbirth and breastfeeding, which helps to explain the strong bond between a mother and her child. but i guess they aren't really feeling anything "deeper", just differently.. |
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the thing about bands is they usually dont let people join the band just cause they really like it. |
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i don't mean groupies joining bands they are obsessed with, but forming bands of their own |
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well, you remember the big deal that was made about that lilith fair concert festival thing a few years back... such a big thing, all women! |
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yeah, but they didn't rock, they just whined! j/k ;) |
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i really have no idea what sort of music goes on at "those" festivals |
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For me im interested in music not playing it. |
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that's precisely what i'm talking about. WHY? i know it's common for people of both sexes to feel this way, but in my opinion this is a lot more common among female fans of music than males. is it apathy and laziness like Hecate suggests or do you have your own reason(s)? |
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you know... this is a really touche subject... but even here at a music school, where girls study music... I feel like they just dont have the passion the guys I know do... dont ask me why... I have no clue... but its just like they have more important things to do... i know guys who would go days without eating to save money on music gear... I havnt meet a girl with the same passion yet... *shrug* |
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