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tetraedplate
from stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-10-28 06:11 [#00419100]
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yes, way to go phobia!
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-28 06:16 [#00419104]
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it seems kinda silly to come here and say stuff like that 1,5 years after it was released.
did it take that long to form an opinion??
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-10-28 06:23 [#00419109]
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And "Songs about my Cats" is amazing...I mean I was not totally sold on VSnares earlier albums..but Songs..is damn convincing of a talent to be reckoned with...
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-28 06:49 [#00419137]
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I'm one of those people that hates Confield. I persevered with that album for ages but it just didn't click.
I'm jealous of people who do like it because they are obviously seeing something I'm not...
Maybe it's like those 3D stereogram pictures of the 90s... some people can see them, other people just see dots.
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NPN
from Nowhere (Turkmenistan) on 2002-10-28 15:23 [#00419520]
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'Naming it emotionally-detatched is just emberassing'
No, what's emberassing is the contempt 'IDM' fans have for people who don't really like the genre. Look, I'll try to be fair about this because I'm a reasonable guy(although that's probably regarded as a serious crime on this message board). Confield is very impressive technically but emotionally it's nothing. Maybe once I've developed a superiority complex I'll learn to appreciate it.
And I don't hate all 'IDM'. My personal favourites include Geogaddi, ICBYD, SAW85-92 and Drukqs.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2002-10-28 15:30 [#00419524]
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fart
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NPN
from Nowhere (Turkmenistan) on 2002-10-28 15:34 [#00419528]
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Cock.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-10-28 16:46 [#00419581]
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heh!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-28 18:02 [#00419653]
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well then your WHOLE point seems to be that Confield does nothing for you emotionally.
big deal.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2002-10-28 18:56 [#00419686]
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and you assume to much in you statements, npn
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-10-28 19:06 [#00419696]
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confield is my favorite autechre release, gantz graf is a great companion disc too.
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earface
from somewhere (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-11 08:40 [#00774291]
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I honestly believe that Confield is the best album I've ever heard. I thought it was fucking amazing the day I first bought it. (Strangely enough, it was the first ae album I bought). I am definitely not pretending when I say that I love it.
I really don't know what you mean by 'emotionally detached'. I think that it has a hell of a lot of emotion in it.
Songs About My Cats is a bit poo. I think some Venetian Snares is excellent though
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-07-11 08:44 [#00774292]
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hmm good idea
<- chucks on the conners :D
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earface
from somewhere (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-11 08:52 [#00774300]
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I think that Confield is the most amazing album I've ever heard.
I don't find it 'emotionally detached' at all. I am definitely not pretending.
Also, some Venetian Snares' stuff is incredible
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earface
from somewhere (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-11 09:07 [#00774320]
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sorry if I just repeated myself - my reply didn't show up
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aphexchrist
from philly (United States) on 2003-07-11 09:18 [#00774326]
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they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked. gotta go my weiner kids are listening
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-07-11 10:04 [#00774356]
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confield is quite good... still not that fond of Bine, and the last track is a bit too long... but overall, it's pretty awesome!
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-07-11 10:57 [#00774410]
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Confield used to be the only thing i listened to 2 years ago. i tried listening to the first 4 trax yesterday but it made me sleepy. i still like VI Scose Poise tho.
i prefer Draft 7.30 these days.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-07-11 11:10 [#00774422]
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I haven't had it very long...very difficult album! But I loved tracks 1 and 3 instantly.
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Phlim
from Canada on 2003-07-11 12:29 [#00774512]
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I was at first pissed off by this topic, but now I think I would like these threads if people started them better. The whole "{insert controversial album here} sucks" is stupid and I cant possibly see how you wouldn't expect an argument. I hated Confield when it first came out too. Now I rate it highly. Listen to Pen Expers. Listen to it loud. (I mean REALLY loud!) That song has soooooo much emotion to me. Gantz Graf as well. Gantz has a part around the end where to me, I honestly feel sad because this one "whiny" melody seems to be "crying". I just love this stuff, I sure as fuck am not "faking it". Draft tho... is the only autechre release ive failed to get a grip on. =( i dunno, i respect it tho.
ok, i'm babbling... buh bye =)
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earface
from somewhere (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-11 16:42 [#00774880]
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cackle my gladis
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-11 16:45 [#00774888]
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I still stand by my ancient posts in this thread.
and yes, I will cackle your gladis!
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AlbertoBalsalm
from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2003-07-11 17:31 [#00774974]
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i'm not a big autechre fan but i'm starting to appriciate them more. I've said bad things about confield before, but honestly i like a couple of tracks there like VI Scose Poise (my fav.) and Uviol. But other than those tracks, confield doesn't do much for me emotionally. But that's just my opinion
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-07-11 17:49 [#00774992]
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::shrugs::
telling people that confield sucks just to spite isnt going to solve anything except give you temporary satisfaction.
why do you care what others think? if you dont like it, thats fine. im not launching war on what you like, because i couldnt give a shit. why do you?
saying confield is "unemotional", while it may be true to you, may not be for someone else. are you one of those people who think there are static good and bads? do you follow strict music theory? sorry, i didnt know i had to follow rules to enjoy things. its not fucking superiority as you call it. hell, you are just as worse for starting this god awful topic, that gets started by countless people just like you who say the exact same thing. what makes you any different from the people you say have this superiority complex? look at this stupid topic you started.
ive taken theory and it really hasnt changed my views on music either. i still like confield. i dont care if you dont. you shouldnt care if i like it. and no, this is NOT better than the constant "liking" of autechre/etc. you would seriously rather everyone argue like idiots? wow, we dont get enough of that on the internet.
but, whatever. if you want to act like an asshole just to spite, go for it. chances are you have a witty reply for this message. or maybe you will try to justify your position. or maybe you will flat out say it sucks and thats that. or youll say i suck.
either way, its stupid
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-11 17:50 [#00774995]
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um.. that guy posted that about nine months ago.
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-07-11 17:53 [#00775000]
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sweet
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earface
from somewhere (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-11 17:55 [#00775004]
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-07-11 17:57 [#00775005]
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may he come back and see what terrible shame i have unleashed upon him.
or anyone else who thinks people who like confield have a superiorty complex
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earface
from somewhere (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-11 18:00 [#00775006]
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Don't you think being just a liiiittle bit sanctimonious?
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-07-11 18:04 [#00775015]
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well, i dont know what that word means, so i guess ill say "yes"
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-07-11 18:07 [#00775019]
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i don't really like confield much. it has just never 'done it' for me. i do, however, really like draft 730. after listening to it on headphones, i fell in love with it. i have not given confield a good headphone listen yet. perhaps that will change my mind.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-07-11 18:07 [#00775020]
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Feigning piety or righteousness: “a solemn, unsmiling, sanctimonious old iceberg that looked like he was waiting for a vacancy in the Trinity” (Mark Twain).
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-07-11 18:10 [#00775024]
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fair enough. its when people start doing what that guy did, that gets me agitated. course, tons do the same thing.
ho hum
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earface
from somewhere (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-11 18:12 [#00775028]
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would you say that you were an egregious person?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-11 18:14 [#00775032]
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aw shit... what's that from...?
I recognize it..
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earface
from somewhere (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-11 18:17 [#00775038]
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League of Gentlemen
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-11 18:19 [#00775040]
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YES!!!
Pauline ofcourse..
good one.. :)
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-07-11 18:22 [#00775042]
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you suck, and you and you and you
but not you or that guy over there. or that guy.
but yes, some of those guys up there suck too.
and if i know one thing. it's that this album, but not that one, also sucks.
and that thing is heavy handed, obtuse garbage, bearly worth any self-respecting human's attention.
but this one's alright though. and that one, sometimes, depending on what i had for lunch.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-07-11 18:23 [#00775043]
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and that is an irrefutable fact.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-11 19:47 [#00775123]
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so true,could not have worded it better myself,but thats mainly due to the fact i dont know any big words
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-11 20:09 [#00775156]
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i enjoy Confield thank you very much!
Confield is one of those albums you have to be in a specific state to listen to: its good background music, but not something you'd jam while playing video games.
I've had some good meditative rest to that album. It's an album for pondering.
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_user
from rostov-on-don (Russia) on 2003-07-11 20:14 [#00775161]
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my opinion that it needs some time to understand.......my first feelings were the same as yours (i've listened to it the same time i've listened to incunabula,so.....)
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_user
from rostov-on-don (Russia) on 2003-07-11 20:15 [#00775162]
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turkmenistan?......wow.......
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-11 20:20 [#00775168]
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*puts on Confield*
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-11 20:22 [#00775169]
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damn, i haven't listened to this in a while. i forgot how much i enjoyed it. :-D
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mojogigolo
from Vic (Australia) on 2003-07-12 01:58 [#00775273]
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if imin the right moodi agree with the pro-confield lobby, otherwise imwith the con-confield lobby.
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earface
from somewhere (Yugoslavia) on 2003-07-12 09:29 [#00775510]
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I'm going to make a point of never buying any of Aphex Twin's music anymore.
I think he's a selfish, money grabbing tosser. I saw him at Glastonbury and he was just taking the piss playing utter utter shite.
People were shouting "come on, where are the beats" and you could just see him hiding under his laptop like a fucking pussy laughing his face off.
26 Remixes for Cash is complete bollocks
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-07-12 09:34 [#00775517]
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Draft 7.30 doesn't do much for me... maybe I haven't listened to it enough... Confield is much better imo... and Chiastic Slide beats them all!!
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