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m....M..Mw )wW(m M m)Ww( wM..M....m from a bird cage on 2001-08-26 20:57 [#00025940] | |||||||||
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The song is "Whiet Zeiela" at my mp3.com site (mp3.com/artificialselection). I used a new technique and I want to know if it sounds good to someone else. Actually, I only want to be showered with praise. Feel free to use words like "genius, unparallel, superior", etc. you know, just to make me feel good. On second thought be honest. Thanks. |
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r3fl3x from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2001-08-26 23:09 [#00025950] | |||||||||
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I dunno I thought it was a fairly decent song. |
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phexian from ? on 2001-08-27 00:19 [#00025960] | |||||||||
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cool.. that's a nice effect you managed to pull off. maybe add some rising and falling strings to flesh it out. :) |
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wayout from a plastic bubble on 2001-08-27 01:15 [#00025970] | |||||||||
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hey, not too bad..i like how it sort of organizes itself out of chaos towards the middle. what kind of equipment did you use to make that? and what was the new technique you were talking about? ok everyone..i hate to to this but since we're on the topic of making music....i need some help. i uploaded an unfinished track to my ampcast site and was looking for some imput as to where i could go with it, what does/doesn't work, etc. the site is: http://www.ampcast.com/wayout the track is "amb 1" i know the sound quality seems a bit shitty...i'm working on that thanks for your help. and keep up the good work artificialselection. |
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Barrett, Syd from Toronto on 2001-08-27 02:35 [#00025988] | |||||||||
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meh...... sorry. not diggin' it. i'm listening to all your tracks. i'm finding them to be very similar to one another. not all of them mind you...... i'm not all the way through the list yet either tho. but i'm liking the one now..... "'('(...diAgnYtic~p8rplE+ion...)')'" yeah........... i'll give more imput later. more descriptive. |
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m....M..Mw )wW(m M m)Ww( wM..M....m from a bird cage on 2001-08-27 04:16 [#00026020] | |||||||||
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Wait, people actually listened. This can't be right... I use only modplug tracker for all my songs and my "new technique" is probably just something obvious everyone else knows: instead of using itty bitty wav files (little drum sounds etc.), use an entire song as a wav file with other huge wav files. I think I could use this technique better than this example song. I kind of understand when people don't like my music. My equipment is crap too. Thanks all, as a reward for bothering to listen to a nobody (any behavior that is rewarded will be repeated) here are some marshmellows for all of you. -------0 -------0 -------0 -------0 And naturally since everyone else seeks to promote their own music, I'll be happy *shudders* to listen to any stuff I havn't heard already. (hmmm... if I listen to M's music, maybe he'll listen to MINE... heh heh heh.) No, seriously though. And I'll listen to yours, wayout, too. Also just repost any links here, because it would be hard to go back and find them elsewhere if you already posted them. |
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hagsjakdahgweqr on 2001-08-27 05:58 [#00026026] | |||||||||
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Sup blokes... if yer bored give me stuff a spin: http://www.zebox.com/artists/ascdi.html "1024" has got drums and whatnot. All the tonality is based on the progression of digits in successive powers of two, hence title. Gonna follow up once I get yer tunes downloaded. Lates. |
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hagsjakdahgweqr on 2001-08-27 06:11 [#00026028] | |||||||||
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Hey mMWMWMWMwmmwmwMW GranuLab, realtime granular synthesis for Windows, ye gods! Definitely give it a looky at http://hem.passagen.se/rasmuse/Granny.htm Fun stuff. Can't say much about the quality o' the tune since I only listened to it at 24kbps but it reminds me a bit o "Logon Rock Witch" from of course the RDJ album which I heard today a bit. Got the same type of (pardon the inference) quasi-cheesy organ tone and rattly metal percussion, esp. second half. Ever consider maybe taking that warped wav sound and chopping it up again in Cool Edit or what not to repeat the more catchy snatches o' melody? Might take you firmly out of the ol' "Experimental" category but I find that's always a better place to be anyway, esp on bloody mp3.commer. Know what I mean? -hagsjak.... |
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hagsjakdahgweqr on 2001-08-27 06:14 [#00026030] | |||||||||
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!!!! me whole first paragraph got cutted outski. Anyhoo, that there link is to granulab, real-time free granular resynthesis for windows, which your "technique" reminded me a lot of. Cheers. -h....... |
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hagsjakdahgweqr on 2001-08-27 06:28 [#00026034] | |||||||||
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!!!! me whole first paragraph got cutted outski. Anyhoo, that there link is to granulab, real-time free granular resynthesis for windows, which your "technique" reminded me a lot of. Cheers. -h....... |
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m....M..Mw )wW(m M m)Ww( wM..M....m from a bird cage on 2001-08-28 01:49 [#00026395] | |||||||||
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WAyout: This song really impressed me as is. I just bought Proem, Jake Mandrell, Delarosa and asora, and I think your music is just as good. For the first 1:30, I was about ready to say that the warped voice melody sounds were good, but kill all the percussion because they sucked. But in hindsight, I see that the song was just kind of flickering before erupting in flames of crazy sounds and excellent percussion, especially at about 1:30. It sounds like you used that "huge wav file" technique, like made a bunch of different patterns that are all similar and faded them in and out of eachother in random ways. It's really good the way it is, kind of like casual doodles on paper, nothing specific for too long, just kind of doing what it wants when it wants. Very excellent. Also I like the volume level changes. |
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wayout from a plastic bubble on 2001-08-28 03:06 [#00026406] | |||||||||
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wow, thanks heh, you pretty much described the technique i used too. most of the "drill n bass" beats towards the end are the preset drum loops that came with my program variated, mixed and chopped up at random. your "big wav." technique sounds pretty interesting and kinda reminds me a lot of what i've been doing. what proem did you get? i just got negativ a few days ago...beautiful...but im not sure if i like it as much as burn plate no.1. coincidentally i also got scott herren's savath+savalas disc in the same order...(scott H. = delarosa+asora) |
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m....M..Mw )wW(m M m)Ww( wM..M....m from a bird cage on 2001-08-29 00:55 [#00026775] | |||||||||
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hagsjakdahgweqr: Thanks for that link, I'll have to check it out. And that idea about cutting up a long wav sounds interesting. (And thanks for listening.) I listened to 1024. Hmmm... the best thing about it was the element of surprise. I didn't expect those drums at all and they made it better. The melody sounds pretty good, but the longer piece added on top was sort of awkward. The drums weren't really all that great, they tried to be intricate and complex, but can't match some of the other people's luny songs these days in that department. The whole song had a feeling that it was made on a freeware software music making program. It was a good I guess, not spectacular or particularly striking/ eye catching (ear catching). |
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m....M..Mw )wW(m M m)Ww( wM..M....m from a bird cage on 2001-08-29 01:07 [#00026784] | |||||||||
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Wayout: I have both of the proems you mentioned too. I just found out about those artists I mentioned so I can't really say whether it is good or not, because I havn't had a thorough listen. But so far it is all great. I'm glad to find you're the second person (after od) to tell me you heard of and own these cd's. Where did you find out about these? Don't you think they are undeservingly unpopular? It took me forever to find out that these artists even exist. I buy them all on forcedexposure.com. Where do you get them- same spot? The one that I definately suggest most so far from that fantastic site is Crunch's "1". Have you heard it? It does some totally weird and extremely tediously constructed stuff, one song makes a great sound like rice crispies popping in each ear. It's the only album I've heard to give autechre's lp5/ep7 some real competition. Here's a list some other guy gave me (who suggested that site to me) of albums I'm gradually buying one by one and finding I really like them all: crunch "1" delarosa & asora "agony 1" while "even" proem "burn plate 1" negativ" michael fakesch "marion arovane "tides" "atol scrap" jake mandell "parallel processes" matmos "a chance to cut is a chance to cure" syndrome sense tim tetlow phonem Do you have any other suggestions? Later. |
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f.l.e.a from NZ on 2001-08-29 01:11 [#00026785] | |||||||||
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genius, unparallel, superior!!!! no but seriously..its quite cool..reminds me of that skuppy song off RABIES whatsit with ogre's girlfiend du jour doing vocal.s..damnit this lapsing mid term memory i gots... BTW pretty good..I might tune in to a few more |
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wayout from a plastic bubble on 2001-08-29 01:39 [#00026796] | |||||||||
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yeah, i agree that proem definately deserves more recognition. i first heard of him on one of the warp forums and bought "negativ" at the warpmart (which by the way is very good, you should check it out) i came across burn plate no.1 in the used electronic section at a local store..which was very surprising. as far as recomendations go...i would suggest: gimmik- very much like proem..really lush melodic synths over glitchy autechre-esque beats prefuse73- same guy as delarosa+asora reminds me a lot of dj shadow...only warpier (severely chopped up vocals, some slightly glitchy beats) chris clark- if youre a nig warp fan like myself you may have already heard of him...if not definately check him out. he's kinda hard to describe...just really beautiful, sometimes ominous electronic music, often has the same feel as a lot of aphex's stuff or maybe µ-ziq's older stuff. yee-king- sounds a bit like a mix between aphex + squarepusher i guess pretty good regardless jega- you may already know him too, i have too albums by him..the older one "spectrum" is a bit more drill n bass oriented while the newer one "geometry" has sort of a darker, glitchy electro sound datach'i- really chopped up, glitchy drill n bass...seems to have a sick sense of humor too. some other artists i suggest but either cant or dont feel like giving good descriptions of right now are: lexaunculpt bochum welt boards of canada brothomstates jamie liddell marumari plastiq phantom richard devine plaid two lone swordsmen vladislav delay monolake cant think of anymore at the moment..hope this helps! |
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m....M..Mw )wW(m M m)Ww( wM..M....m from a bird cage on 2001-08-30 23:52 [#00028009] | |||||||||
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Well it seems like people are really raving about my music! "Genius", I believe it was called. "Unparrallel", if I'm not mistaken was also mentioned... And (if I remember right) I think it was even called "superior". I know, I know, I mean it's DAMN good but I'm a bit modest here. It's not THAT good even though it IS really really good. Actually I agree. f.l.e.a.: did you have a url-amajig? |
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m....M..Mw )wW(m M m)Ww( wM..M....m from a bird cage on 2001-08-30 23:55 [#00028010] | |||||||||
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wayout: thanks, I'll add those that I didn't know (which were quite a few) to my "stuff to check out when I get spare time" list. (Well I'm so busy posting pointless messages on this messageboard now- so much to do, so little time...) I didn't know proem was on warp, that explains why a few people have heard it. Seriously check out crunch's 1 though, especially if you like autechre's lp5/ep7. |
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wayout from a plastic bubble on 2001-08-31 00:39 [#00028018] | |||||||||
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yeah i've heard that crunch is pretty good..any suggestions as to where to find it? i haven't seen it at the local store or the warpmart. heh i also think its cool that they/he /she is anonymous, musik aus strom claim to not even know who they are...though i have heard speculation that its the guy from funkstorung... oh btw, proem isn't on warp, his label is merck i think, the warpmart just sells negativ (along with many other non-warp releases, you should check it out if you haven't already, pretty reliable service too) |
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f.l.e.a from NZ on 2001-08-31 00:45 [#00028019] | |||||||||
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sorry lost thread of this thread.. :) my url's http://www.mp3.com/f_l_e_a cheers :) |
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e~e-()~e from icecreamfloat on 2001-08-31 01:18 [#00028028] | |||||||||
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terrible just terrible, did you make that stuff, while litening to the loveboat theme? it came to mind when I heard it.. ughh.. dont try so hard... |
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f.l.e.a from NZ on 2001-08-31 01:27 [#00028032] | |||||||||
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um..were you talkin to me (f.l.e.a) or (several m's and w's seperated by dots)? I actually quite like his music |
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((>e.V.o.L.u.M.e<)) from a hot and muggy seattle on 2001-08-31 02:29 [#00028045] | |||||||||
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hey, yer shite is very good. now i am inspired to stay home and work on my stuff rather than going out to get excercize. i will now get fat thanks to you. you suck. *wink* |
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e~e-()~e from icecreamfloat on 2001-08-31 02:49 [#00028062] | |||||||||
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mm's and www's not into it at all, sounded like elevator music trying to bit hip.. no no no.. stop |
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hagsjakdahgweqr on 2001-08-31 07:04 [#00028100] | |||||||||
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yo, try 'experiment 009' www.zebox.com/artists/ascdi.html |
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f.l.e.a from habalaland on 2001-09-01 02:55 [#00028317] | |||||||||
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to (greater or less than e volume) you talkin' to me or the m's and w's with dots and brackets? to m's and w's with dots and bracket...sorry about this ruckus didn't mean to steal your thunder..you got great music on your site and this is a thread started by you about that music..I am bailing out of this thread at this point and will assume that all the rest of the comments are about your music...I just got on the thread to compliments yer stuff and then answer yer inquiry about my url... good luck and all that cheers |
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m....M..Mw )wW(m M m)Ww( wM..M....m from a bird cage on 2001-09-01 07:29 [#00028356] | |||||||||
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wayout: You can buy crunch's "1" at forcedexposure.com and there's a little review but no sound samples. It really good, potatoe chip crunchy sounds, rice crispies popping right in your ear, weird panning effects to make it seem like the sound is all wobbly or in some strange alien tone, constant tweaking. He uses sound quality like melody in some songs, constantly changing it, making the song turn different colors. speaking of funkstorung, what is a good album by them especially something organic/complex like lp5 ish? I probably agree with your funny reviews most, e~e-()~e. It does quite sound like elevator music now that I think about it, good description. Thanks for listening, sorry about any lingering unpleasantness in your parietal lobes. Do you have music? funkstorung... e~e-()~e (those are the remnants of my copy and past I needed to spell those correctly...) |
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m....M..Mw )wW(m M m)Ww( wM..M....m from a bird cage on 2001-09-01 08:05 [#00028359] | |||||||||
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f.l..e...a.... Please feel free to fill my message with any sort of miscellaneous nonsense whatsoever, heh heh. Your songs are good. They have a pretty rich sound environment. Some songs sound like they could become really great and chaotic from the first 20 seconds, but kind of choke off from the limited sound pallette of this starting, and keep repeating the sounds of the first 20 seconds. It would be even better if it kept changing, but that would take loads of disc space. From what I heard, libelogy and dropkick fatality were my favorites and lungflood was the least favorite because it was so obviously a measured repetition. |
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Sirius from Seoul, South Korea on 2001-09-01 17:00 [#00028481] | |||||||||
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ah.. i wonder if i can write something here, anyway i got your tracks mr. long name, whiet zeiela, that was really interesting, 'genius' spatial composition, 'unparallel' owesome modulation, 'superior' tones quality, and.. it's totally uncomfortable to listen. |
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wayout from a plastic bubble on 2001-09-01 22:58 [#00028545] | |||||||||
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sorry m, i cant reall help you with funkstorung, i dont know too much about them or have any of their albums. but from what i've heard they're a bit like post-chiastic autechre..i'm sure someone on this board could help you though |
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f.l.e.a from habalaland on 2001-09-02 07:12 [#00028614] | |||||||||
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funkstorung are an awesome band...doomed to be foreshadowed by autechre but IMHO they surpassed autechre in some aspects..can hear most of their stuff at www.funkstorung.de they are one of the huge inspirations on f.l.e.a..especially the song "gravlock".. mw)...etc. thanks for the constructive criticism :) |
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Evil Taxidentialist. from none on 2001-09-02 08:23 [#00028630] | |||||||||
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ummm. Do you guys want to listen to my stuff? I have only been writting music for 5 months. But have gotten a really good responce. www.mp3.com/12 |
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goddisc on 2001-09-02 10:14 [#00028663] | |||||||||
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malaysia underground musicmaker goddisc second coming album with title '2001' is out now,this album content 14 song total running time 50min++,visit www.geocities.com/goddisc for detail, and you can listen/download some of the complete song there. |
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Id Lab from The Untitled Kingdom on 2001-09-02 12:27 [#00028690] | |||||||||
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Artificialselection, it's not the tools you use, it's the end result. You know, people used to use nothing more complicated than some strings sretched over a wooden box (a 'guitar') to make music... Seriously, this is good. Now you have to listen to my tune, at . |
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m....M..Mw )wW(m M m)Ww( wM..M....m from a bird cage on 2001-09-02 18:47 [#00028741] | |||||||||
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((>e.V.o.L.u.M.e<))- aka. "emu love" Aw shucks, heh heh. Sorry about that. Do you have any music on the internet? hagsjakdahgweqr- That experiment 9 was way better. It just sounds like it was fun to make because it's fun to listen to. It's a little bit similar to the style of delet ER boy, check out www.mp3.com/deleterboy "apexin" or "urgh, stupid program", you'd probably like it. Using a sample of some guy saying "who the fuck was thatljafjow" was a good touch, probably the nearest wav file you found to mess around with, heh heh. That's an excellent guitarish melody too- sounds semi fractal, and the drums and stuff are mixed up and fun. |
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f.l.e.a from NZ on 2001-09-02 21:43 [#00028776] | |||||||||
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to Evil Taxidentialist: as i have mentioned before I can't stream so took a listen to the only track I could download "The Gritty"...I liked the beginning...the rest not quite my cup of tea..but I am sure that one song doesn't represent your whole body of work...pretty clean and tight structures though :) |
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f.l.e.a from NZ on 2001-09-02 21:46 [#00028778] | |||||||||
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to goddisc..whoa man you got a buggy site..crashed me browser..maybe you could make the downloadable files available a couple of pages earlier..whatchoo think? |
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goddisc on 2001-09-03 01:10 [#00028799] | |||||||||
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to f.l.e.a, this is the only way i can get to uploading mp3 for free, :-( ,any comment for the music? |
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goddisc on 2001-09-03 01:11 [#00028800] | |||||||||
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to f.l.e.a, this is the only way i can get to uploading mp3 for free, :-( , and the pages too, i m not a pro in computer design, by the way, any comment for the music? |
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f.l.e.a from NZ on 2001-09-03 01:21 [#00028802] | |||||||||
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um I didn't get to hear any....sorry like I said it crashed on me...you've got some kinda java script buggin your site out..re..free mp3...why not try mp3.com..it's free..all my stuff's on there.. I will try and get to your site again cheers |
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f.l.e.a from NZ on 2001-09-03 01:25 [#00028804] | |||||||||
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um I tried but the same thing happened again...could be my network..I'll try again from home |
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])avid Violence from Florida. on 2001-09-03 09:57 [#00028913] | |||||||||
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Pfft. Since were on the topic of shameless promotion, give me a spin, next time your bored. REVOLUTIONARY WORK! www.geocities.com/davidviolence Everything I have heard on this stream is good so far, keep up the good work everybody! |
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|REFLEX| from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2001-09-03 09:59 [#00028914] | |||||||||
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])avid Violence from Florida. on 2001-09-03 10:09 [#00028916] | |||||||||
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dunt think so, reflex. Funny, nonetheless. |
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|REFLEX| from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2001-09-03 10:16 [#00028920] | |||||||||
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you are correct sir. |
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in how from nouvelle zelande on 2001-09-03 12:16 [#00028952] | |||||||||
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Hey Reflex .. do you have any stuff - like on mp3.com or another site ? be quite keen to hear something [with all the new gear n all] |
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|REFLEX| from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2001-09-04 01:27 [#00029128] | |||||||||
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No - nothing yet. Id put somethin up.. when I got really good. or what I thought would be really good. Ill let people know. |
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M(m m...majk flk (M) 0 MMM...MM m M m)) from a waffle iron on 2001-09-04 04:04 [#00029228] | |||||||||
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Evil Taxidentialist: You DO have great music, in my worthless opinion, especially for only doing it for 5 months. I liked the cosmic joke and breakdancing, especially the latter. It's a simple cut and paste, resembling symmetry in nature's patterns, such as the pattern the worms make on the sidewalk when the rain is over. A worm here, a worm there in random places, but the symmetry comes from the fact that they're all worms. |
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m....M..Mw )wW(m M m)Ww( wM..M....m from a waffle iron on 2001-09-04 04:30 [#00029231] | |||||||||
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Sirius: Thanks for listening! That was a weird review, here's a marshmellow! -------0 ID lab: Hey, good luck on that live gig. I've actually been looking for your non-mp3.com site, since I liked your songs phonetic energy and lobsters quite a lot. I don't find many artists do stuff quite as zany and experimental as your stuff. I listened to Bluescreen Histamine 2 1/2 times (the half being right now)... I still don't know what I think of it. It's approaching noise this time almost to merzbow level (it is pretty random and almost lacks a linear structure) but there's a mind at work, I think... The melodies are remnants of deceased melodies and don't retain any of the charm they once had if they ever did. The clicks and cheeps are kind of a puzzle to figure out how it was constructed and I like stuff like that (autechre). This is music that isn't so obviously constructed on a tracker software program as most people's are. I'm interested in any of your future work (plus the others I havn't heard yet). Try www.mp3.com/jbohn the song "walking on eggshells". I'm glad you liked my song, well a "tune" technically since no one sang... you get a marshmellow too. -------0 |
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m....M..Mw )wW(m M m)Ww( wM..M....m from a waffle iron on 2001-09-04 04:49 [#00029233] | |||||||||
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goddisk- I was able to listen to 2001mp3, but my computer can't play hi fi without pausing every second. From what I heard, you have good quality sounds, they just arent very original. Bass drums snare drums and reversed cymbols, and a randomish bass melody. The construction is fairly interesting, but isn't as good as other stuff, it probably could use a faster tempo and some choppiness. It could use something crazy and pointless like a "who the fuck was thatlajf;ojw" sample, heh heh. (but I didn't hear the whole song... and the pausing was a disadvantage to you in obtaining your ultimate goal in life (as it should be like everyone else's, naturally): getting a good review from me) |
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