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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-12 21:43 [#00401842]
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why not just scratch all your cd's and listen to them?
why not just listen to mp3's on a computer with no RAM?
why not listen to oval?
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Conformist
from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-10-12 21:45 [#00401846]
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why not enjoy the music you enjoy and let other people enjoy the music they enjoy?
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aperson
from Brentwood, TN (United States) on 2002-10-12 21:45 [#00401847]
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I do listen to oval o_O
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-12 21:46 [#00401852]
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those are just 2 possible effects. they'd be global through the whole album and get boring after awhile.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-12 21:47 [#00401857]
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i just think the whole glitch thing is played out. it's not a new concept, it's not even that fresh. it can really enhance a track but it can be and most often is grossly overused.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-10-12 21:48 [#00401861]
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hehe, that comment seemed funny with your name and all... :)
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-10-12 21:48 [#00401864]
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shit, all i do wank with my delays and reverb feedback and i'm happy as a clam. i prefer spirals and exponentially rising tones and tempos to glitch.
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Conformist
from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-10-12 21:49 [#00401866]
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haha yeah I know, I'm not actually a Conformist ;P I have this weird 'obsession' with contradictions and irony
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-10-12 21:49 [#00401867]
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I love the way Go Plastic is glitchy, but it stays within the beat... lots of people are all over the place with the beat, but on My Red Hot Car the beat is dead on, and it's glitchy as hell!!
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-12 21:50 [#00401868]
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if you limit yourself to whatever you think is "glitch".
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Conformist
from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-10-12 21:51 [#00401870]
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I actually don't even know what 'glitch' is, I just thought it was rather stupid for someone to whine on here because they don't happen to like a specific type of music. Just because they aren't into it, that doesn't neccessarily mean it's bad. Obviously someone out there is into it, or it wouldn't exist in the first place, ya know?
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-10-12 21:51 [#00401871]
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does glitch refer to the placement of beats, or the complex trextures?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-12 21:55 [#00401878]
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what the hell are you talking about man?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-10-12 21:55 [#00401880]
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Fuck glitch. It's too glitchy! Makes me itchy...
And kind of bitchy...
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Conformist
from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-10-12 21:56 [#00401881]
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should be pretty obvious to even the slowest of untrained chimpanzees...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-12 21:57 [#00401888]
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you're way off-base if you think i hate the genre (not that i think it is a genre unto itself, like you're implying) or don't think other people deserve to hear it. and perhaps you haven't noticed but i was opening up a discussion, not "whining." why the hostility?
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-10-12 22:00 [#00401892]
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why not break your electronic audio conveniences and listen to the hymns of malfunction?
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-10-12 22:00 [#00401893]
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you're a poet, and don't even know it!!
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Conformist
from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-10-12 22:00 [#00401894]
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you just seemed to be talking down to people who might happen to like this so-called "glitch". it came off rather arrogantly how you phrased it originally, as if it were some kind of horrid thing for someone to even contemplate listening to glitch. "if you're into glitch so much, why not just blow your brains out?! scratch your CDs up! it sucks! woogah wallah! lookit me, maw!"
sorry... i've slipped into pseudo-political asshole mode. got any prozac handy?
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-12 22:01 [#00401896]
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I agree that it's been overplayed now...
But it does still work if done right...but yeah, a lot of artists seem to think adding it to any old track will automatically make it edgy...
But couldn't stop myself doing vague robotic dancing whilst listening to Funkstorungs Bjork AIFOL remixes...that shit is sooo funky...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-12 22:04 [#00401901]
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dude, so sorry to piss in your cheerios. i'll try to find you some valium cos you definitely need to calm down. my first message is meant to be humorous, sorry you didn't find it funny! :D :D :D
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Conformist
from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-10-12 22:06 [#00401905]
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haha oh well, i wasn't completely serious anyhow. can anyone explain what 'glitch' is? or give an example? i've seen it mentioned here before, but never heard any of it, that I know of
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-10-12 22:07 [#00401907]
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making fun of a lack of RAM is not funny!!! While I'm thinking I'm making glitch in fruityloops, when I make it an mp3 I find there's not a trace of glitch to be found!! grrr
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-12 22:09 [#00401912]
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glitchy stuff i like includes: later autechre, oval, funkstorung, prefuse 73, cex, kid606, later squarepusher, later bjork, matmos, and ummm a ton of stuff i'm forgetting at the moment, sorry
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-12 22:10 [#00401913]
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oval pretty much masterminded the whole glitch movement tho; just listen to some of their samples on cdnow.com or a similar site and you'll hear pretty much the definition of glitch
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-12 22:11 [#00401915]
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....and for a good example of its utilization in melodic music i highly recommend bjork's 'vespertine' album
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-10-12 22:11 [#00401917]
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are Hellfish and Bit Meddler glitch?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-12 22:13 [#00401919]
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sure, if i'm gonna count kid606 i may as well count them right?
anyway, none of this stuff is really like the other, they just have some minor similarities... hence there's no real glitch genre in my opinion
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-12 22:13 [#00401920]
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is sceneriodisk a good epitome of oval, it's the one I have but havn't listened to it much do to lack of initial interest.
autechre are the wickedest "glitchers"
listen to otto von schirach's 8000 bc, or crunch's 1- hyper mad "glitch"
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Conformist
from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-10-12 22:14 [#00401921]
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hmm, well i've heard a few of those artists songs... it all just sounds like d'n'b to me (and by that, I just sum it all up by comparison to the most common Aphex tracks, S'pusher, etc etc). I don't really go by all these other 80 subgenres like "triphop", "jungle"... if it sounds like Aphex Twin, then I just say it's d'n'b. but for something like ambient, that's a huge difference there. I'm kind of rambling now I think... la la la, weeeeee, zort!
jesus, where's my prozac??
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-12 22:17 [#00401923]
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listen more carefully to the beats and vocals, you'll hear what we're talking about
w M w: all oval's albums are kinda same-y, i think that one's pretty good but systemisch is my favorite
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uviol
from United States on 2002-10-12 22:37 [#00401939]
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as for a definition, it's characterized by tons of the power-on noises you get when you turn off an amp at full volume.. or CD skipping, etc. It's the art of making music out of computer malfunctions. check out almost ANYTHING on tigerbeat6.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-12 22:55 [#00401941]
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well put
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uviol
from United States on 2002-10-12 23:00 [#00401942]
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thanks :)
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-12 23:02 [#00401943]
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Theres a great glitch in Aphex ABB3 (the version that's on the TEE comp...)...he adds a ton of reverb & it really works well..
I think that was one of the first times I'd heard one used musically...
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naaic
from Uppsala (Sweden) on 2002-10-12 23:15 [#00401946]
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glitch?
vladislav delay is all i gotta say; dub/glitch minimalism at it's best.
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-10-12 23:52 [#00401975]
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what about pole - mind you, they probably didn't do it as early as oval ..
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-10-12 23:54 [#00401979]
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whats up with rap
its been done
sure it can sound good, but theres nothing new about it.
:O
;)
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-10-13 00:09 [#00401988]
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and all that play with instruments... too much sound if you ask me. the art of sound is old.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-10-13 00:09 [#00401989]
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think they're so clever with the melodies
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optimus prime
on 2002-10-13 00:37 [#00402022]
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MuM's glitch kicks my ear's ass.
and my ear has a BIG ass.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-10-13 04:05 [#00402112]
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LOL!!
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-10-13 04:31 [#00402122]
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When i think of the word "Glitch" i think of artists such as HÃ¥kan Lidbo and Andreas Tillander and some of Brothomstates more minimalist works , not IDM artists in generall like most of you here seem to do???
The "Clicks n Cuts" compilation is strictly glitch for me.
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-10-13 04:39 [#00402124]
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if vladislav delay/mum/minimalist brothomstates are glitch then glicht is better than great.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2002-10-13 06:46 [#00402165]
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Hmm, I never thought about Oval being glitch, more like Ambient music....Im not sure what Glitch really is, I thought the stuff that you can find on the Clicks & Cuts CDs, but that doesnt sound anywhere near Oval !?
WTF !? Anyway, funny you mention it, last week I bought Microstorias - Init Ding for 1 Euro from EBAY
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-10-13 06:50 [#00402168]
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Yeah imo opinion Clics & Cuts is Glitch compilations but what the hell do i know?
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-10-13 06:51 [#00402170]
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"imo opinion" ??? haha!
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-10-13 21:20 [#00402837]
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everything has been done..titsworth especially rock and hiphop and i keep hearing you sing virtues of the next hiphop and rock combo..whassup wid dat?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-13 21:50 [#00402843]
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i know everything's been done (well, so we believe), i only singled glitch music out cos people here still act like it's something new and amazing when a lot of it is pretty contrived and overdone
i dunno what you're referring to re: rock and hip-hop combo, i mean of all hybrids i think that's the one that's been done to death over the last 15 years. i don't recall talking about that (i think i hypothesized a bit about idm + hip-hop on mainstream urban radio stations) but the only thing i can think of that might be interesting and new is mos def's rock album with his band black jack johnson, featuring an all-star lineup of black rockers:
dr. know of bad brains bernie worrell of parliament doug wimbish & will calhoun of living colour
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-10-13 22:20 [#00402862]
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I like glitch.
There is this moving black hole that devours the recent past making it unpalatable. A couple years later when the black hole gags it up we can like it again.
I figure the glitch revival will be somewhere around 2014 so I consider myself ahead of the curve; an avant-garde retro post futurist if you will.
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