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which do you think is the best: alien (by scott), aliens (by cameron), alien 3 (by fincher), or alien resurrection (by jeunet)? |
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the first (obviously) it's the only time the alien is truly scary, mysterious, without the gratuitous (acid) bloodscenes |
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i think I hold respect for each in its own way. what I'm really waiting for is Alien vs Predator.! |
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it'll never happen :( |
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alien for the fear aliens for more aliens! |
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i dunno...i just saw alien resurrection for the first time and it was pretty damn crazy...jean-pierre jeunet is the best director of the series in my opinion |
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love |
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wow that went wrong, no offense there :) love winona ryder's character in alien4. i have a thing for androits the monster was too funny to be scary though |
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*choke* no way man They are already in order of greatness (although 2 and 3 are quite close in my opinion) |
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Aliens and............ *drum roll* alien resurrection. winona ryder is in that one, yeh? anyway, i thought it was good. |
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i thought the 2nd was the best |
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The first one is godlike and gets extra points for setting the ball in motion. Find someone with the DVD boxset and watch the making of Alien(1) DVD |
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alien=3 aliens=2 alien 3=0 alien res=1 |
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2nd when I was younger and liked to see things get squished, burned, exploded etc. Now, the 3rd. I just like the idea that they are trapped in the middle of nowhere with NOTHING to defend themselves with and they have to figure out what to do. Very primitive. I think I will go watch it later, now that you've brought this up. TonyFish, the making of Alien is fucking cool. Love the soundtracks as well. I have the first one on cassette; it's really old. |
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Yay and the ridley scott talk-over-movie is really interesting too. I'm a big HRGiger fan. |
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Same here. I've got one of his big art books. Great stuff. Ever seen Paul McCarthy? |
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no I'll look online for him. From what I was reading a while ago that fucker jeunet omitted giger from the A4 credits. grrrrr |
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Yeah, that's pretty much why I don't even consider that an actual Alien movie. I'll admit, it's cool to look at and even to pretend it's just a stand alone sci-fi flick, but I don't know about all that shit with resurrecting Ripley and whatnot. Just seems hokey. |
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Oh and Paul McCarthy is this: Gone. He has no sanity. Hopefully you can find some art, preferably the really good ones, and you'll be able to see what I mean. |
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Being an old fuck I remember when the first one was released. The world at large had never seen Giger's work, had no idea that such things could even be imagined. Words cannot do justice to the emotions that movie conjured up. The studio did a great job of suppressing pictures from the movie and gosh, was it ever a mindfuck. It was a soul-blackening trip into a hell dimension. Wow. Fuck wow. By the time James Cameron's sequel came out the world was glutted with Giger and the aliens were about as scary and mind altering as rubber halloween bats. |
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giger's name has been omitted from all the sequels. 'alien' is the best for me. very tensive and genuinely eerie. 'aliens' is just a big budget action movie in my opinion. |
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'aliens' gets me on the edge of my seat, part 3 and 4 suck but part 4 has some wicked looking monsters in it so it doesnt suck that much.. |
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I'm in doubt as to which of the 3 alien movies is the best. Resurrection was a raping of the alien saga, therefor I don't even count that movie as part of the alien saga. It ends with nr3 for me. I think 2 is underrated when it comes to acting, visuals,story and suspense. I'd go for the 2nd one followed closely by the first |
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>Resurrection was a raping of the alien saga, therefor I don't even count that movie as part of the alien saga. It ends with nr3 for me.< Exactly how I feel. |
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why do you guys think that resurrection was bad...what exactly was bad about it? |
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i especially liked it because of how it develops the relationships between characters (ripley and cole (only when they realize that neither of them are truly human do they start to connect), ripley and the alien queen (this is the creepiest thing of all to me because she is so torn between being with the aliens or with the humans))...I also like this one because the manifestation of the alien character through ripley let's us truly know the nature of these beasts and allows us to relate to it in a primal way amen |
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I don't think it's bad. I like to watch it as a stand alone type of thing -- not as part of the Alien saga though. |
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the first one is the best. nr2 is good - especially the queen. the aliens do look like men in rubber suits though. and how the eggs open looks just crap, compared to 1. nr3 seems minimalist: its the minimalism of someone who wants people to think he's doing something minimalistic - its videoclip minimalism. imo nr1 is truely minimalistic, terse in its outlook. incredible setdesign, incredible buildup of tension, great feeling for textures of sounds (the scene with Harry Dean Stantons character looking for the alien, when he stops in a large hangar with a clinking bunch of chains, and stands under a dripping stream of water - the sound of the water dropping on his cap and then on his face - YES!), the rhythm of the scenes (see above sample), the ferocious typing of Weaver/Ripley on the mother-console, the beautiful music and soundeffects (just got the Alien trilogy cd, with 7 nrs from nr1), the acting - Ian Holm is wonderful as Ash, the android, Weaver ofcourse, John Hurts shortlived role.. nr4 is good, but a big problem is it falls out of the psychologically nicer feeling trilogy-idea. sounds stupid, think it does have something to do with it. also, theres nothing really new here. I liked it though - a little too much gore for my tastes (nr1 hardly shows us anything). nice anecdote from nr1: when they came to filming the chestburster scene, Scott rehearsed it, but with just a little blood. on the actual shoot he used buckets, unanounced. the shock you see on the actors' faces is quite geniune.. :) |
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"Alien" is one of my favourite favourite films you see.. |
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the first 3 made hard work of trying to create a realistic and believable future environment. resurrection has a comic book style approach, which is totally and absolutely not done for this series. This style is fine for a total crap movie like for instance the fifth element, but not for the alien series, which has the alien put some sort of primal fear into the subconscious. So not only the way everything looks is ridiculous but also the police academy style humor is repulsing and I don't even think I need to mention the sudden "jurassic park raptor" type of behaviour we get to see from the aliens. Or how about an alien queen labouring to give birth in a human fashion to the most laughable of alien/human hybrids? I could go on and on. |
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so therefor, R.A.P.E. |
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what i truly dislike about alien4 is why does the alien hybrid have to feed on human brains dammit i expected something original from sigourney weaver but i do like the android (as i like the androids in all the alien films). there's an android in all of us, questioning our humanity |
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I do like Alien 4, but it kinda disturbed me, because the first time i watched it was on a plane, and our food had just been served, and the Alien Hybrid had just been born and smashed the mother's jaw off I changed the channel and went back on to the bit where the Alien is being sucked through the tiny hole. Made me sad, especially the look on the Alien's face when it was trying to reach out to Ripley But i must say the best are Alien, Aliens and perhaps Alien 4 (but only some bits out of it) The black guy in it looks like Maxim out of Prodigy |
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*bump* i made a list of things that suck about alien3 and alien 4 and have definatively shown that alien 3 is better based on lack of sucky things, recognizing that both have redeeming features which i will not mention directly. i prefer 3 to 4. while the underwater scene in 4 is quite lush. here's what sux about 4: 1. the basketball scene 2. the 'cute' human/alien hybrid complete with wiggling nose 3. the end line 'you just saved the earth' 4. the gratutitous ass shot (the ass itself was quite nice, just out of place) 5. ron pearlman's shoddy acting (plays a great dummy, not a convincing tough-guy) 6. winona's mole 7. bargaining in hard american currency 8. D.N.A. based memory retention 9. overuse of acid blood as if it were MacGuyver's swiss army knife. 10. no sense of panic, present in all 3 pevious films. here's what sux about 3: 1. much of the alien effects. 2. mostly shoddy editing (except for the C.S. Dutton eulogy scene) 3. Hicks getting killed based on these lists, alien 3 is better (in my opinon of course) feel free to add to either of these lists. |
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alien 3 is almost 100% humourless. it also seems very 'static'. alien 3 also doesn't have Brad Douriff in it. |
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3 and 4 arre the worrst, 1 the best 2 the second best. 4 is betterr than 3. |
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brad douriff was the only good thing in Alien:Rape-urrection, that general should have been put to sleep before the shooting of the film began. Alien 3 had too much English accent in it. Seemed like the whole prison was from England or maybe it was meant to be the second coming of australia, in which case it would be a nice hint at australia's past. |
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i'll concede that brad dourif was pretty cool. |
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what's wrrong with English accent. it sounds grreat in a film |
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true. it was recorded in England, ofcourse.. |
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1 is great 2 is good the rest are shit imo |
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i really liked alien 3 |
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yeah me too. it's dark, gritty, rusty, bleak. |
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but the story is kind of repetative of the earlier movies and all in all, not very surprising. |
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I think the first two are definitly the strongest, and ahhahh yes was so good that "In 1980, he received the Academy Award for "Best Achievement for Visual Effects" for his designs of the film's title creature and its otherworldly environment." I couldn't get over his artwork collecting every book I could possibly find about the guy and even started doing inspired by the legend himself! |
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fuck me i'm dreaming |
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