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i don't know if i'm really afraid of death, curious maybe of what happens after death, then we'll all find out if there is really a heaven, a hell, are we reincarnated, do we turn into cows, do we all turn into ghosts, or do we do nothing for eternity, death dosen't exactly scare me, the truth scares me. |
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I'm not afraid of it at all. I hope there's something after it. We can't just exist on earth and then... DARKNESS... can we? I really want to know what happens after. I won't go kicking and screaming into the afterlife. |
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I'm afraid of any change, and death is an awfully dramatic one. I wonder alot on everything just stopping, if existance was just going to cease to be, whether absolutely, or for a little while as some religions suggest, I'd like to be aware of it, but there can't be any awareness of nothingness. I like to know what's going on at all times, and it's very frightening to think of not having that ability. |
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Do not go gentle into that good night, Old age should burn and rave at close of day; Rage, rage against the dying of the light. Though wise men at their end know dark is right, Because their words had forked no lightning they Do not go gentle into that good night. Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay, Rage, rage against the dying of the light. Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight, And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way, Do not go gentle into that good night. Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay, Rage, rage against the dying of the light. And you, my father, there on the sad height, Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray. Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light. Thanks Dylan Thomas...I especially like the "rave at close of day" bit.....I bet the Es are top notch in Heaven.... |
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death fears me |
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NO, because if I were afraid of it then I would worry. And as humans we shouldn't worry because God knows all. So why worry about something that you can't control If I die next year I would hope I leave this world with reason. |
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I asked the question because I believe that fear of death is the only reason that mass religion survives today. If I could guarantee that when you died you would go to a really cool place that you would love, whether or not you believed in me, and however you have lived your life. How many of you would still believe in God? If the bible didn't threaten its readers with eternal pain and damnation for not believing in God, why would anyone bother. There would be no payoff for there belief. |
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I'm not afraid of the idea of dying, only of the way I'd die. I really hate the idea of drowning (probably because I nearly drowned surf canoeing when I was a teenager) I'd also hate some form of wasting illness. As long as it was relativley quick and painless I wouldn't mind. |
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I'm only scared of the bit before death... perhaps the physical pain and uncomfortableness and seeing loved ones upset, knowing they will soon lose me. It's not something to look forward to is it?! Unless of course you die quickly which isn't amazingly likely. Imagine getting stabbed at night and wondering around, alone in the dark, knowing full well you won't see you wife or gf or family again and they won't see you... It's not death that brings fear to me but some of the things that come with it. I wouldn''t want to put my Gemma in any pain that way so I don't want to die. Make sense?! |
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kinda what I meant, yea! :) |
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I feel that we'll just cease to be, just like we didn't exist before we were born. |
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I think drowning would be one of the most peaceful ways to die. I have nearly drowned twice, and there is a certain amount of panic (obviously) but then there is a total release of fear, and a calmness that is created by the silence and stillness of the water. |
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you really are a psycho aren't you, and i guess that you are lucky 'cos you didn't drown ...twice. if i die of unnatural causes - it would have to be instant. i can't be arsed to hang about..... death by a high speed truck in the face would be good. |
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Silence and stillness....... hmm.... I'd say that Croyde Bay is anything but silent and still. You must have a death WISH to drown in stillness and silence. |
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I spose, but then it might kill someone else... Big fatal accident on the M4 right near me yesterday... road needs resurfacing now. |
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I don't think having no fear of death makes me a psycho, or understanding the nature of drowning. Although, yes, the near death experiences are one aspect of my lucky self. |
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I live for the dragon gods. Why? I don't know. If this is some sort of mental state it's a very convincing one. |
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I don't WISH to die in any way... but if I had to choose, I think I would choose drowning, a long way out at sea.... with dolphins |
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Apparently its supposed to feel quite nice. |
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lucky psycho - i didn't refer to you as a psycho due to you not fearing death, but more because of your choice of death. it's my opinion that drowning would be a real shitty way to go, but i s'pose my opinion don't count for much, as i haven't been in any such near death experiences like yourself. |
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there is no such thing as unexistance. |
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I don't advise you to try it either. The only things I know to be true are the things that I have direct experience of... that is one of them |
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My Answer is this: How can you be afraid of something you dont know anything about? |
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Ha ha, it's not calming if you're winded as you go in, and the surf/currents are too strong to roll back up and you get twatted in the face by the paddle :) |
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how can you know that binaural? |
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I actually came pretty close to dying once, and I was scared. Very scared... I just felt that I didn't get enough time here so maybe it was more panic then fear... |
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Daphex_Dewine - your answer was not an answer, it was another question. anyway, i believe the 'unknown' to be the most scary or fearful of all things. you're are scared of it simply because you know nothing about it. eg, in the film 'jaws', you don't get to see the big toothy fish until the end. blah de blah de blah |
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I'm more afraid of livin' than I'm afraid to die |
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The fight for life obviously isn't calm, or nice, or happy... and that is what people fear. The moment that you realise that all struggle is futile is the moment that everything becomes calm. There is no pain asscociated with drowning... unless you have been "twatted in the face by the paddle " |
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That's the thing, it was the fear of drowning that eventually gave me the strength to punch through the spray deck holding me in, which allowed me to get out. Thinking about it I'm annoyed my brother didn't come over and help after I'd been under for about 30 seconds (long time when you've been winded)- he was surfing nearby. |
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Why should the unknown be scary? Its just as likely to be a good thing that happens after death, as a bad thing, if anything at all. And once you are there...dead... it will no longer be unknown... so there is nothing to fear That probably makes no sense... |
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I cant be afraid of something i dont know agout, its like, damn , im afraid to Die because i dont know what happens. So what... live your life--then you die, then something else happens...or not....its nothing to be afraid for imo |
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Wont it hurt when your lungs fill with water? I've inhaled sea water before when I passed out swimming, it burnt like fuck. Even pure water hurts when you inhale it. |
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darth turned out to be nice in the end.. he didnt fully turn to the dark side .. |
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welcome broken philip |
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So if I said I was coming round your house right now with a gun to shoot you you'd be as cool as a cucumber? |
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No comment |
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chears daphex |
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"Daaamn!! Always talkin' shit!" |
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Good point heptanary, chew on this: "Death is nothing to us, since when we are, death has not come, and when death has come, we are not." ~Epicurus (Quoted in Diogenes Laertius's Lives of the Eminent Philosophers) |
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why should we be calm about something we don't understand? both comments are as justified as each other |
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MistahKurtz - I like it, very profound and pretty optimistic really. |
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The whole point it there isn't anything to understand! Chew on this (a short piece i wrote for a friend): One cannot experience death since experience is generally accepted as being the collecting of intellectual and sensorial data and according to common empirical observations physical death implies the loss of the organs that we use to gather this information. Therefore death is a non-event, an unfathomable thing (in no way a moment in time). The fact that we will never “experience” death on the scale of humankind and that the phenomenon cannot be explored by science leads us to this paradox: death in itself (the undeniable fact of death) is illogical and non existent, but when viewed by the living, by those who experience its nature changes and provokes fear! Death is denatured in our minds where it becomes a mere prospect, an individual’s concern… Furthermore, most never come to terms with death, but when they do it is through an even greater process of denaturalisation: speculation and the creation of an after-life. To extent time and experience even if these are of a higher order is to deny the very essence of the unknown and to place and judge that what cannot be judged. To me the prospect of death has a simple purpose: to stimulate the appreciation of this life. Death as a prospect cannot satisfy man’s desire for shape or perfect form. It is the prospect of death that leads to the absurdity you speak of Carl, not death devoid of the influence of perception. Certain cults manage to eradicate both the fear of death and the negative effects of our subjectivity upon it by worshipping it as a god that suddenly takes hold of man when it wishes to do so. Of course this belief gives birth to whole new load of problems but it solves the fundamental problem: how can we think of death when death is no thoughtWe must find meaning not through ruminations on death but through the appreciation of the present moment until that god takes hold of us and brings us to its breast. Appreciat |
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shit, too long... oh well you got the jist of it i hope... |
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spikee... I'm guessing that if the passing out aspect of your experience meant that there was no pain.... thats the point, when you drown you suffocate, and therefore pass out... feeling no pain I can't be sure, cos I haven't died yet |
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cancel the 'if' |
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i don't fear death. In fact i call death a cocksucking asshole. the only thing that really scares me now has to be ignorant people that willingly spread stuff like AIDS. |
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Quite looking forward, actually! |
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tell us your secret please |
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cheese straws and gingerbread |
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