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b0nk
from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2002-08-29 17:49 [#00371338]
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can anyone point me in a good driection in terms of programs i can fool around in and create simple little tracks for fun ?
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Nexus 6
from Netherlands, The on 2002-08-29 17:51 [#00371342]
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fruity loops
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Murray
from Southend, Essex (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-29 17:55 [#00371350]
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Get samples, use Acid 3.0
or Reason
or previously stated Fruity Loops, good for a first timer and for messing around
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-29 17:56 [#00371353]
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b0nk: try th0nk.
http://www.audioease.com/download/thOnk_0+2.sit.hqx
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Nexus 6
from Netherlands, The on 2002-08-29 17:58 [#00371357]
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the good thing bout fruity is that beginners can use it and also those who've been making music for a long time
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Conformist
from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-08-29 17:59 [#00371358]
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I think FruityLoops is a complicated mess of a program. Check out Tuareg, available here:
Tuareg II.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-29 17:59 [#00371359]
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the good thing about th0nk is that it has absolutely no controls.
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Conformist
from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-08-29 18:04 [#00371366]
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*.sit.hqx? is that program for a Mac or Unix or somethin'?
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-29 18:07 [#00371369]
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it a mac program
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Conformist
from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-08-29 18:10 [#00371373]
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craptacular.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2002-08-29 18:12 [#00371377]
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try hammerhead for drum loops i like it made by the same guy as tuareg
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-29 18:28 [#00371425]
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conformist: yeah mate, i aint seen tuareg either but i know its shit.
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hepburnenthorpe
from sydney (Australia) on 2002-08-29 19:00 [#00371472]
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you can get it for windows, mac, linux. do a search for stuffit expander.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-29 19:26 [#00371519]
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but theres no point expanding the files when you cant run em, is there?
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hepburnenthorpe
from sydney (Australia) on 2002-08-29 20:23 [#00371589]
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well...i guess not..hehe. didnt realise you meant the contents were mac.
silly me
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SteveWardale
from Lincoln (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-29 20:38 [#00371608]
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Acid 3.0 is just simply put, the best sequencer ever. Scratch that, best music program ever. Anything can be done with it, easily, with the greatest control... it's like being inside the program, or better yet, actually being it.
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b0nk
from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2002-08-29 20:43 [#00371616]
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kk thanks i will try these out
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nekta
from shezlick (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-29 22:17 [#00371748]
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hammerhead is cool for loops and shit, mike p used one for tusken raiders, and i only found out after i made a song with the same bit in it! i might be wrong he may have used it from elsewhere, but i don't think he did.
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map
from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-08-29 22:28 [#00371754]
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just take time with fruityloops and you will be surprised... the most people don't know what a powerful programm it is, one of the most underrated softgroover, check it out. yeah and also hammerhead.
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Diao
from Olathe (United States) on 2002-08-29 22:47 [#00371799]
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I think Fuity Loops is the best for beginners. I got Fruity Loops first, and it helped me learn alot about synthesis, drum patterns, sequencing, and all that jazz. I think that it is themost powerful program out there, as the sequencer is simple, you can do anytime signature you please, it is VST compatable, you can load samples, and it has so many effects you won't know where to start.
Acid isn't a favorite of mine, but I've seen other make some incredible things with it. Think that with Acid you have to provide pretty much all your sounds. It comes with a few sample loops you can muck with, but other than that, there is nothing too spiffy.
Reason is great if you love to work with hardware like I do. It looks and acts like analog equipment, so it's a great program for the hands on type person. I thinks it's a bit difficult to learn, but once you have sequencing down, it's a peice of cake. My only real problem with it is the lack of effects. You have delay, reveb, echo, simple stuff like that, but for a person looking to do some hardcore tunes, you'll find Reason to be soon boring.
The other drawback to Reason is the huge price. I think Acid will run you about $300 right now, but if you wait a bit, it goes down to about $200. Fruity Loops is the cheapest, costing you $100. If you would like to try it before buying it, head over to the respective sites for demos.
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-08-30 00:41 [#00371943]
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i use tuareg... someone said its shit... but i like the limitations it provides
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-30 00:45 [#00371952]
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fruity loops is crap. you do NOT need it.
I just use Soundforge 6.0 and Cubase SX. SF is real easy to use. Cubase takes some time, but works beautifully.
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brendan ether
from the beach (obx, NC) (United States) on 2002-08-30 00:54 [#00371963]
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so i.m a bit confused... i see a freeware version and an extended version of Taureg II. you have to pay for the extended version?!
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brendan ether
from the beach (obx, NC) (United States) on 2002-08-30 00:55 [#00371964]
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fuck that! fruityloops is anything and everything but crap.... maybe its just the person using it. ;-P
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-30 00:57 [#00371965]
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HA!
yeah, that'll be it..
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J and The B
from Chesterland, Ohio (United States) on 2002-08-30 01:05 [#00371967]
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fuck fruity loops get Buzz BUZZ MACHINES . COM it has a better visual interface for effects and everything can be sequenced. It's harder but better in the long run. Oh and it tears the shit out of samples! <--good thing
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jimisteel
from SLC (United States) on 2002-08-30 01:18 [#00371968]
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Native instruments BATTERY, or KONTACT.
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2002-08-30 01:21 [#00371970]
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Acid 4.0 is out by the way...
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-30 01:27 [#00371974]
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looks like this thread won't help you much..
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-08-30 01:30 [#00371976]
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yes theres the free version, and the "fat" version with more features which costs money to download
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brendan ether
from the beach (obx, NC) (United States) on 2002-08-30 01:35 [#00371982]
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ah... well, is the "fat" extended version worth the $? ...and how much is it by the way?....
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brendan ether
from the beach (obx, NC) (United States) on 2002-08-30 01:40 [#00371983]
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why is it that people generally don't dig FLoops? do all you naysayers know that that motherf**ker can do just about anything. it has all you need, it's easy to use, and it too "tears the shit out of samples"!
well, anyway--that's my opinion. for $100, what the f**k else does one need?!...
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Conformist
from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-08-30 02:30 [#00372011]
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if you'd like, i can give you my serial # for the extended Tu2 ;)
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J and The B
from Chesterland, Ohio (United States) on 2002-08-30 02:35 [#00372016]
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well Buzz is 100% free and I've used both Buzz wins for me
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Conformist
from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-08-30 02:36 [#00372017]
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I don't think I've tried Buzz, but isn't it one of those gay-ass "trackers"?
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brendan ether
from the beach (obx, NC) (United States) on 2002-08-30 02:50 [#00372021]
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yeah, i'd love that! thanks!!!
--brendan
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diemax
from somewhere in tennessee :( (United States) on 2002-08-30 02:51 [#00372023]
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if it hasn't already been mentioned: reason (1.0/2.0) fruityloops (despite the fact that it's SHITE) techno ejay (another shite program, only you can do EVEN LESS! but it's fun to dick around with and you can be extremely creative once you've figured a few glitches out)
protools (:P) buzz reaktor and a billion and a half freeware programs available on shareware music machine (http://www.hitsquad.com)
oh and there's also such things as guitars and pianoes (not that anyone here'd be interested in 'em- but i am)
and that's about it- good luck you artistic little twat!
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brendan ether
from the beach (obx, NC) (United States) on 2002-08-30 02:54 [#00372027]
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once again, i ask: "what the hell is so wrong with FruityLoops???!!!"
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J and The B
from Chesterland, Ohio (United States) on 2002-08-30 03:00 [#00372032]
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I've never been able to get the pure fucked up noise that I desire out of Fruity Loops. Buzz is an endless well of fucked up synthed sound, no lame wave databases.
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Clic
on 2002-08-30 03:02 [#00372034]
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Anyone who thinks Tuareg is shit, just go listen to Wayout's music.
You may back the fuck up afterwards.
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J and The B
from Chesterland, Ohio (United States) on 2002-08-30 03:10 [#00372041]
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Buzz is a computer studio thing, with synths, drum machines, samplers, effects (which can be used for anything in any combination), and a sequencer. It doesn't have a handsome interface like FLoops but it has more options and it's all free. Every week or so more synths and FX are up on the website too. It's really good, I've created 3 LPs and 1 EP wiht Buzz. Before Buzz I used Cakewalk, hehe. All my cakewalk stuff is crazy because it was all sample based. Samples from Sawcutter and Hammerhead and Tuareg. That was some fucked up stuff since the Cakewalk effects sucked and just added noise. reall rough gritty sound though. I like it now but it was just way too hard.
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b0nk
from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2002-08-30 03:40 [#00372069]
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ive been fooling around in fruity loops and i msu tsay its one thing to have a song in your head and then to try and lay it out into tracks and patterns and shit is quite annoying and hard lol well its fun experimenting! wee
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Conformist
from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-08-30 04:34 [#00372111]
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Here ya go man (or anyone else who wants it, I don't mind)
username: Erik Bosko serial: RNcILAEiIE
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Conformist
from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-08-30 04:42 [#00372120]
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that's to 'unlock' Tuareg II by the way, if anyone missed that part of this conversation.
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-08-30 04:44 [#00372123]
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hmm...just curious...what kind of features does the 'fat' tuareg 2 have?
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Conformist
from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-08-30 04:51 [#00372135]
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Scroll down to the bottom of this page and there's a "comparison of features", that should tell ya all the differences between the two.
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-08-30 04:51 [#00372136]
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the only instruments i use now are my banjo and my cat! its great! you ALL sould try it to get that "IDM" sound! Get a stick and poke at your cat and it makes noises... better then any drum machine... and its all organic sounding!!!!!!!!!
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-08-30 05:00 [#00372145]
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hmm... i may just have upgrade...
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Conformist
from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-08-30 05:05 [#00372150]
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lol. i've heard settings midgets on fire produces similar "organic" sounds!
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-08-30 05:13 [#00372162]
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word up! I hear that conformist! FOR THOSE KILLER CRUNCHY SNARES... try smacking up your landlord and kick him around some.. excellent for hit hat sounds too. To get a little more complex recordings.... get a minidisc recorder and try sneeking up on your friends and trip them..... for those acid type squelch sounds
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