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map from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 09:27 [#00021443] | |||||||||
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does anybody know how i can perfect multisample some tunes....for every octave ? how should i begin ? |
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Wizards Teeth from Parsnip Land on 2001-08-13 09:53 [#00021446] | |||||||||
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what does multi sample mean ? |
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map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 09:57 [#00021447] | |||||||||
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so.....if you got a beat, and play it 2 octave higher than the original, the beat is faster, the pitch , too....multisampling means, you have a sample for every octave, so you can make a beat, but if you play it 2 octaves , the beat will be faster, but the pitchvalue is the same like the original |
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map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 10:39 [#00021456] | |||||||||
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c'mon guys i need some infos. got urls ? i know there are some good musicans out here.... |
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Gl;itch from New Zealand on 2001-08-13 11:09 [#00021461] | |||||||||
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Sorry Map, I guess your after something really definate, but the only thing I can think of in this case is something like cubase and other music softwares stretch function, where it takes the piece and stretches it to a length youd like to use, supposedly without changing the pitch or losing quality, but I cant say Ive done much with that particular function. |
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map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 11:26 [#00021464] | |||||||||
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so what d'you do if you have got a piano looped tune, and you want play on every octave? |
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Gl;itch from New Zealand on 2001-08-13 11:31 [#00021465] | |||||||||
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umm, well, I dont know what id do until I got it into the programs I use, Do you really need to have the same thing played on different octaves, cant you chop it up a bit and sequence the notes of the original ? |
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Sound Assassin from Patent Office UK on 2001-08-13 11:32 [#00021466] | |||||||||
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A decent harmonizer would be able to play a piano tune on every octave. Maybe coupled with a digital delay to stagger the hamonies. A midi transposer could do it. Playing each octave individually and overlaying on top of each other or mix together separate tracks in Cubase. Is this the right ball park? |
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map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 11:36 [#00021467] | |||||||||
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nah the problem is, i want play it normal like a piano, but if you have one sample for the whole key-range, the pitch is okay, but the stretch....so if you've got chorus on the sample, you'll hear the chorus on the low octaves slower (wwwwuuuuuuaaaaaaaaauuuuuuwwwww) than the upper octaves (wuawuawuawuawuawuawuawuawua) that's the problem so you need to edit a sample for each octave.....but how ? open wavelabg and mark the whole sample and change the pitch value -/+ but how much for each octave? 1, 2 ? i dunno.... |
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map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 11:39 [#00021468] | |||||||||
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i need it only for my AKAI s2000m the piano thing is only an example, i need it for everything....efx etc.. |
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Sound Assassin from Patent Office UK on 2001-08-13 11:40 [#00021469] | |||||||||
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I'm not entirely sure what your wanting here bud, but a harmonizer is not chorus. With a harmonizer if you play a note it will harmonise it at the octaves you want it, with no delay i.e. instant harmonization. |
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map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 11:43 [#00021470] | |||||||||
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i never talked about a harmonizer.....i talk about samples....multisampling, sample with the same length on every octave, but exactly the pitch like the octave i play them bad english i know |
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map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 11:49 [#00021471] | |||||||||
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Multisampling is an essential technique, as it allows memory to be conserved whilst not compromising excessively on the fidelity of the sound. One sample is assigned to all the notes within a certain range (e.g. an octave), and is then sped up or slowed down slightly to provide the sound of that sample at that pitch. The number of notes that a sample can provide depends upon how much its speed can be altered, as it will eventually reach a point at which it is no longer recognisable as the original sound. http://www.themusicland.co.uk/technology/keen4.htm |
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Sound Assassin from Patent Office UK on 2001-08-13 11:52 [#00021472] | |||||||||
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If you have soundforge, you can adjust the pitch and length of sample, so although increasing/decreasing the pitch will increase/decrease the sample time, you can then stretch it in soundforge (without further altering the pitch). on the right trax yet!?!?!? |
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map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 11:57 [#00021473] | |||||||||
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yeah ok i've got soundforge and look what i can do, it think that's the solution....just test around with them... thx @ soundassasin i've got only a track yet... ftp://lupo.besonic.com/audio_016/0347/036/68903my_caphe.mp3 So Listen the whole track.. ;)> |
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Sound Assassin from Patent Office UK on 2001-08-13 12:12 [#00021475] | |||||||||
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Map - If your feeling rich you could always buy the Roland VP-9000 VariPhrase capable of realtime manipulation of sampled phrases' pitch, time, and formant via MIDI while maintaining superb sound quality. Thanks to VariPhrase technology, the VP-9000 can instantly match loops from different sources to the same key and tempo, bend notes in realtime without changing the phrase length, modify the duration of notes held within a phrase, play a sample chordally in perfect synchronization, or add swing to a straight drum loop, all in a highly musical, non-destructive environment. Nice! |
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map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 12:16 [#00021476] | |||||||||
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yes, i rode many abot the VP9000, but it's to expensive for me, i've got enough stuff to make the shit i need. what's about you ? |
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Sound Assassin from Patent Office UK on 2001-08-13 12:21 [#00021478] | |||||||||
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map - Same here bud, I don't get paid enough to afford things like that! I have a decent rack, couple os synths, drum machines, guitars, the rest is on the PC. Ah well. |
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map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 12:24 [#00021479] | |||||||||
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so what's the problem? are you unhappy with equip. ? isn't it that what you need. i^ve got the boss dr770 drummachine....so i have another question, d'you know how i transfer midi dumps to machine, i want to edit a rhythm on cubase then transfer it to the d.machine, but how ? how can i transfer/receive files ? |
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Sound Assassin from Patent Office UK on 2001-08-13 12:32 [#00021480] | |||||||||
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Map - Not at all! Though In my opinion "you can never have enough gear!!" I'm not too familiar with that drum machine, presumably it will take midi dumps? I haven't got Cubase in front of me either, there is an option for transferring midi data out of the PC into an external machine. I've certainly been able to do a dump from synth to cubase!! |
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CUN8eR LASIT from LASiT on 2001-08-13 12:37 [#00021481] | |||||||||
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You'd need a sampler or so to trigger it (if you want to play the samples from the keyboard) .. but you should download Protools Free .. its free .. and has all the time stretch stuff (and pitch bend without it being all fast and stuff) but it would be quite laborious to so without one of them samplers, be it software or hardware. Also has some echo effects I'm sure Aphex has used .. like on the Ventolin ep and stuff |
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map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 12:42 [#00021482] | |||||||||
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yeah that's right....i think, gear comes and goes, like yourself and your friends. so it will be shit, if i can only transfer from the drummachine. so what i should do on live session, it would be shit!! i can't trigger the sample from the drummachine, don't use own made (from cubase) patterns....mh.. |
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map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 12:48 [#00021483] | |||||||||
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CUN8er, got an URL ? |
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map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 13:20 [#00021484] | |||||||||
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huh? *echo echo echo echo echo* |
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map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-08-13 13:22 [#00021485] | |||||||||
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http://members.tripodasia.com.my/swking/800600/midi04.htm |
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