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offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:34 [#00357920]
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anyone recommend a life-changing book? i'm looking for
something that'll re-wire my way of thinking about the
world. any suggestions?


 

offline uzim on 2002-08-21 00:37 [#00357921]
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hmm... did you read 'the ants' by B. Werber?


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:38 [#00357924]
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no


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2002-08-21 00:39 [#00357926]
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zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance

popular favourite (seriously)


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2002-08-21 00:40 [#00357928]
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"the jungle" by upton sinclair might work


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-08-21 00:40 [#00357930]
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Dianetics

:-)


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:40 [#00357931]
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yes the empire of the ants looks interesting.


 

offline uzim on 2002-08-21 00:41 [#00357932]
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yeah, 'empire of the ants' sorry — (it's a trilogy in its
original version, 'the ants', 'the day of the ants' and 'the
revolution of the ants')

it has some interesting stuff in it. about ants, but not
only. :)


 

offline RobE from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:41 [#00357933]
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Yes.

'Staying Sane:How to make your mind work for you',by Dr.Raj
Persaud...yes,him off the telly.

Very interesting book on the human psyche (if ur into that
kinda stuff).


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:41 [#00357934]
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the whole of 'the jungle' is available here:
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Literature/Sinclair/TheJungle/


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:42 [#00357935]
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oh yeah


 

offline RobE from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:42 [#00357936]
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Also,anything by Simon .R. Green.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-21 00:42 [#00357937]
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"1984", George Orwell.

anything by Raymond Carver - so densely concentrated..


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:43 [#00357938]
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ants looks interesting, an an(t)alogue of human society


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-21 00:43 [#00357939]
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"cages" by dave mckean. (a huge graphic novel, beautifully
drawn)


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-08-21 00:43 [#00357940]
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"The Grinch Stole Christmas" by Dr.Seuss


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:43 [#00357941]
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i know carver and orwell. i'll look for green


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-21 00:44 [#00357942]
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everything by Samuel Beckett. spinned my head, started me
writing.


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2002-08-21 00:44 [#00357943]
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dr seuss!!

many books by him could change one's view of the world!


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:45 [#00357944]
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dave mckean did the sandman art didn't he?


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:45 [#00357945]
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qrter you write?


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:45 [#00357946]
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i grew up on dr seuss :-)


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:46 [#00357947]
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American Psycho by Bret Easton Ellis was a totally new
reading experience for me.

And it's still the best =o)


 

offline deadwhitespoon from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-08-21 00:50 [#00357950]
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Expect tonnes of replies...here're mine:

Godel, Escher, Bach ~ Douglas Hofstadter (but will also turn
your head into jello)

the Ingenuity Gap ~ Thomas Homer-Dixon (but you will never
go outside again)

The Whole Earth Catalogue [Access to Tools & Ideas for the
Twenty-First Century] ~ Editted by Howard Rheingold (basicly
a list of books that will change your life, and breif
descriptions of them...you'd do well with this one: it has
everything from "Universal Patterns" to " The Thirteen
Petalled Rose" to "The Emporer Wears No Clothes" to
"Revolution From Within" to "Senuous Magic" to...just check
out www.wholeearthmag.com to get at what I'm on about.

You should probably tell us how you want to change first...



 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-21 00:50 [#00357951]
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yeah dave mckean did the coveart. he made a few graphic
novels with Neil Gaiman as a scenarist. I can recommend
those - intricate stories, wonderful art. read "signal to
noise", "mr punch", "violent cases".

mckean also did "cages" which really is a masterpiece. its
something like 500 pages.

he published a collection of 'short narratives' called
"pictures that tick"- again, excellent.

especially those last 2 are expensive, but really worth it.

and yes, I write! I write a lot. I'm just beginning my 2nd
year of a 4 yr writing course at a Dutch dramaschool. I'm
specialising in writing of plays and screenplays, but I also
write prose and poetry.

busy, busy little bee, me..


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:51 [#00357953]
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no it's more interesting to see what suggestions you make
without my influence. i'm scribbling titles down now... :-)


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-21 00:51 [#00357954]
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I really liked "the rules of attraction" by Easton Ellis..


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:52 [#00357955]
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Yeah, that's a funny book =oD I like the way everyone
sees the same events differently


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:52 [#00357956]
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by the way thanks very much guys for responding :-)


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-21 00:56 [#00357961]
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yeah, I think they he used the narrative was pretty good.
when the girl slits her wrists, and her sentences become
more and more flakey until they kind of dissipate..


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:59 [#00357963]
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the ingenuity gap looks interesting


 

offline deadwhitespoon from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-08-21 00:59 [#00357964]
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Fiction that changed me:

Infinite Jest (!!!): David Foster Wallace
Anything by Jorge Borges, Kobo Abe, Italo Calvino, Martin
Amis, Stanislaw Lem

Ian Banks, Tom Robbins, Thomas Pynchon, Carlos Casteneda are
all fun, but ot quite life-changing.

I could go on...


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:00 [#00357965]
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Have you read 'Glamorama'? As sick as American Psycho got,
there was a scene in Glam which was even worse for me, still
makes me cringe each time I think of it....


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:01 [#00357966]
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please do :-)


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:01 [#00357967]
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that was for spoon!


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:02 [#00357968]
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is glamorama a horror story?


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:03 [#00357969]
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No, it's a story about terrorism and the fashion
industry(!). It's quite, quite fucked up.


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:03 [#00357970]
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i'm more into the esoteric, mindf**k kind of book that makes
you think differently, like r a wilson etc


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:04 [#00357972]
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Weeeelll, I dunno about other people but me and pOgO both
act like different people when we are reading American
Psycho. Honestly, I think, watch and speak in a totally
different way when I'm reading it.



 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:05 [#00357973]
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that's worrying :-/


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:05 [#00357974]
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That's nothing to do with mind blowing information/facts or
anything like that... just an extremely powerful and well
written main character.


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:09 [#00357977]
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thanks deadwhitespoon...


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:10 [#00357978]
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thanks jar...


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-21 01:10 [#00357979]
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I haven't yet. its on my 'to read'-pile.

you see, I have so much to read, I have multiple 'to
read'-piles. I work at a large 2ndhand bookstore so I see a
lot of what comes in, I get a discount over the 2ndhand
prices AND I can borrow books..

resulting in me never reading a book again.. :)


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:10 [#00357980]
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thanku qrter


 

offline deadwhitespoon from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-08-21 01:11 [#00357982]
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Noam Chomsky has some frightening and eye-openning works out
there:

Check out Necessary Illusions and Manufacturing Consent for
an idea of the corrupt nature of the forces that "guide" us,
i.e. the Media, the Corporation, and the Government.

You should also try to track down the documentary
"Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky And The Media". It's
probably in your library.

"Stupid White Men" is similar but also not as in-depth.
(Michael Moore is a bit too into hyperbole)

imho


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-21 01:11 [#00357983]
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I really liked "Generation X". really strange, made me feel
uncomfortable.


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:11 [#00357984]
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oh i do that too i have several books i bought in the past
year and i'm reading about 6 at once


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:12 [#00357987]
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I have a large to read pile too. Where I work there's a book
swopping club and so I just take everything and never put
anything back =oD

I currently have 74 books to read =o/



 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:12 [#00357988]
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chomsky is great


 


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