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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:34 [#00357920]
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anyone recommend a life-changing book? i'm looking for something that'll re-wire my way of thinking about the world. any suggestions?
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uzim
on 2002-08-21 00:37 [#00357921]
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hmm... did you read 'the ants' by B. Werber?
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:38 [#00357924]
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no
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-08-21 00:39 [#00357926]
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zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance
popular favourite (seriously)
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-08-21 00:40 [#00357928]
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"the jungle" by upton sinclair might work
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-08-21 00:40 [#00357930]
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Dianetics
:-)
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:40 [#00357931]
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yes the empire of the ants looks interesting.
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uzim
on 2002-08-21 00:41 [#00357932]
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yeah, 'empire of the ants' sorry — (it's a trilogy in its original version, 'the ants', 'the day of the ants' and 'the revolution of the ants')
it has some interesting stuff in it. about ants, but not only. :)
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RobE
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:41 [#00357933]
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Yes.
'Staying Sane:How to make your mind work for you',by Dr.Raj Persaud...yes,him off the telly.
Very interesting book on the human psyche (if ur into that kinda stuff).
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:41 [#00357934]
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the whole of 'the jungle' is available here: http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Literature/Sinclair/TheJungle/
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:42 [#00357935]
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oh yeah
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RobE
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:42 [#00357936]
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Also,anything by Simon .R. Green.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-21 00:42 [#00357937]
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"1984", George Orwell.
anything by Raymond Carver - so densely concentrated..
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:43 [#00357938]
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ants looks interesting, an an(t)alogue of human society
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-21 00:43 [#00357939]
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"cages" by dave mckean. (a huge graphic novel, beautifully drawn)
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-08-21 00:43 [#00357940]
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"The Grinch Stole Christmas" by Dr.Seuss
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:43 [#00357941]
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i know carver and orwell. i'll look for green
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-21 00:44 [#00357942]
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everything by Samuel Beckett. spinned my head, started me writing.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-08-21 00:44 [#00357943]
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dr seuss!!
many books by him could change one's view of the world!
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:45 [#00357944]
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dave mckean did the sandman art didn't he?
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:45 [#00357945]
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qrter you write?
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:45 [#00357946]
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i grew up on dr seuss :-)
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:46 [#00357947]
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American Psycho by Bret Easton Ellis was a totally new reading experience for me.
And it's still the best =o)
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deadwhitespoon
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-08-21 00:50 [#00357950]
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Expect tonnes of replies...here're mine:
Godel, Escher, Bach ~ Douglas Hofstadter (but will also turn your head into jello)
the Ingenuity Gap ~ Thomas Homer-Dixon (but you will never go outside again)
The Whole Earth Catalogue [Access to Tools & Ideas for the Twenty-First Century] ~ Editted by Howard Rheingold (basicly a list of books that will change your life, and breif descriptions of them...you'd do well with this one: it has everything from "Universal Patterns" to " The Thirteen Petalled Rose" to "The Emporer Wears No Clothes" to "Revolution From Within" to "Senuous Magic" to...just check out www.wholeearthmag.com to get at what I'm on about.
You should probably tell us how you want to change first...
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-21 00:50 [#00357951]
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yeah dave mckean did the coveart. he made a few graphic novels with Neil Gaiman as a scenarist. I can recommend those - intricate stories, wonderful art. read "signal to noise", "mr punch", "violent cases".
mckean also did "cages" which really is a masterpiece. its something like 500 pages.
he published a collection of 'short narratives' called "pictures that tick"- again, excellent.
especially those last 2 are expensive, but really worth it.
and yes, I write! I write a lot. I'm just beginning my 2nd year of a 4 yr writing course at a Dutch dramaschool. I'm specialising in writing of plays and screenplays, but I also write prose and poetry.
busy, busy little bee, me..
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:51 [#00357953]
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no it's more interesting to see what suggestions you make without my influence. i'm scribbling titles down now... :-)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-21 00:51 [#00357954]
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I really liked "the rules of attraction" by Easton Ellis..
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:52 [#00357955]
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Yeah, that's a funny book =oD I like the way everyone sees the same events differently
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:52 [#00357956]
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by the way thanks very much guys for responding :-)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-21 00:56 [#00357961]
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yeah, I think they he used the narrative was pretty good. when the girl slits her wrists, and her sentences become more and more flakey until they kind of dissipate..
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 00:59 [#00357963]
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the ingenuity gap looks interesting
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deadwhitespoon
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-08-21 00:59 [#00357964]
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Fiction that changed me:
Infinite Jest (!!!): David Foster Wallace Anything by Jorge Borges, Kobo Abe, Italo Calvino, Martin Amis, Stanislaw Lem
Ian Banks, Tom Robbins, Thomas Pynchon, Carlos Casteneda are all fun, but ot quite life-changing.
I could go on...
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:00 [#00357965]
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Have you read 'Glamorama'? As sick as American Psycho got, there was a scene in Glam which was even worse for me, still makes me cringe each time I think of it....
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:01 [#00357966]
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please do :-)
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:01 [#00357967]
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that was for spoon!
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:02 [#00357968]
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is glamorama a horror story?
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:03 [#00357969]
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No, it's a story about terrorism and the fashion industry(!). It's quite, quite fucked up.
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:03 [#00357970]
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i'm more into the esoteric, mindf**k kind of book that makes you think differently, like r a wilson etc
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:04 [#00357972]
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Weeeelll, I dunno about other people but me and pOgO both act like different people when we are reading American Psycho. Honestly, I think, watch and speak in a totally different way when I'm reading it.
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:05 [#00357973]
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that's worrying :-/
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:05 [#00357974]
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That's nothing to do with mind blowing information/facts or anything like that... just an extremely powerful and well written main character.
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:09 [#00357977]
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thanks deadwhitespoon...
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:10 [#00357978]
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thanks jar...
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-21 01:10 [#00357979]
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I haven't yet. its on my 'to read'-pile.
you see, I have so much to read, I have multiple 'to read'-piles. I work at a large 2ndhand bookstore so I see a lot of what comes in, I get a discount over the 2ndhand prices AND I can borrow books..
resulting in me never reading a book again.. :)
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:10 [#00357980]
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thanku qrter
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deadwhitespoon
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-08-21 01:11 [#00357982]
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Noam Chomsky has some frightening and eye-openning works out there:
Check out Necessary Illusions and Manufacturing Consent for an idea of the corrupt nature of the forces that "guide" us, i.e. the Media, the Corporation, and the Government.
You should also try to track down the documentary "Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky And The Media". It's probably in your library.
"Stupid White Men" is similar but also not as in-depth. (Michael Moore is a bit too into hyperbole)
imho
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-21 01:11 [#00357983]
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I really liked "Generation X". really strange, made me feel uncomfortable.
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:11 [#00357984]
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oh i do that too i have several books i bought in the past year and i'm reading about 6 at once
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:12 [#00357987]
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I have a large to read pile too. Where I work there's a book swopping club and so I just take everything and never put anything back =oD
I currently have 74 books to read =o/
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-21 01:12 [#00357988]
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chomsky is great
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