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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-08-07 14:22 [#00340480]
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/2178156.stm
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-08-07 14:35 [#00340490]
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i've heard this story here in the states as well. It came across pretty much the same way. On this matter i'm learnign towards the american direction for the followign reasons: All american bases and their inhabitats are internationally considered as americans, not their occupying country. Also, the two soldiers are getting court marshled for an accident. A court marshel distroys any chance one has of making it in a civilian life. It's worse to employers to see a courtmarshal on a background check than multiple felonies.
Now, i dont' remember if korea practices the death penelty, so i dont' really know what would be their fate if they were released to keorean jurisdiction.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-08-07 14:40 [#00340494]
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"The two soldiers involved face up to six years in prison if convicted at court-martial. A South Korean civilian court could impose a sentence of up to five years on the same negligent homicide charge. "
I think it's just a matter of principals..a court marshall will be closed to civilians and hence un available for the families of the girls to gert some kind of closure on the matter..
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-07 14:44 [#00340501]
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What is more telling is the US opposition to a world war crimes court. They now that many of their own, including Henry Kissinger, would be in the dock.
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-08-07 14:45 [#00340503]
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i fully agree with this, do you have any links so i can read up on the proposals?
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-08-07 14:48 [#00340507]
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yeah jonesy gimme...
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-08-07 14:51 [#00340512]
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www.staatsgeheim.com/bush/
hehe
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-08-07 14:54 [#00340513]
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LOL..that's quite brilliant.. Space Commandos unite:)
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-08-07 15:00 [#00340516]
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ok, before i make an opinion on this i need to childishly make fun of the fact that the op is called "operation: FINGERDIKE!!!!" hahaha....
that somehow reminds me of the last episode of dennis miller live...for those who don't know, at the end of his shows, he has pics for various new articles and whatnot and verbally adds his own captions to them. well, he had this pic of bush jr. breifly touching the hands of these two ladies who sat next to him at some confrence table, and the caption dennis miller added was: laddies, i'm george w; w'ya (pronounced double-ya, but all fast like george bush talks) pleasure, w'ya fun.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-07 15:03 [#00340519]
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Sorry no links I'm afraid. I'd just read it in newspapers etc. Try a google search for John Pilger, Noam Chomsky, Tariq Ali et al for discussions of such matters.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-08-07 15:03 [#00340520]
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I remember Dennis Miller having a field day when Bush Sr. blew chunks over the Japanese prime Minister...
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-07 15:08 [#00340524]
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This journalist is great:
http://pilger.carlton.com/
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-08-07 15:08 [#00340525]
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this IS quite brilliant I clicked on the Dutch die by Dozens link and it linked me to the News story of the Fascisitic Home Land Security (US Stasi/KGB informant network) news Item..here..
HomelandSecurity
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-08-07 15:10 [#00340530]
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yeah I have seen a couple of his doco's..hes quite good
thanks for the link:)
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-08-07 15:26 [#00340553]
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I have mixed feelings about opposing this world crimes court. On the one hand i think that the conditions will be so harsh, that the guilty of minor crimes, like in that article, will be overwheming and unjust, and on-top of that, what happens if one's found innocent? I dont' think they can slip back into the cogs of the american military that easly. By the time they go through the process, their job will most likely have been taken.
on the OTHER and more important hand, oposing the world war crimes court and practially starting a war against the netherlands, is extreamly, extreamly evil. we all know the other side of this sword.
that's america...we act under the cover of being just in order to rape you, and get away with doing it.
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2002-08-07 15:51 [#00340569]
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What's all this about the US starting a war against the Netherlands?
What's going on?
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-08-07 16:00 [#00340577]
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As you probably know the International Warcrime Tribunal is in the Hague(the Netherlands)
George W. Bush has just approved a law which states any country housing the International Warcrime Tribunal can be invaded in case an American warcriminal is held there.
We're not being attacked yet and the site I posted is a parody on the situation.
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