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Smyrma
from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2002-08-05 05:42 [#00337021]
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Has anyone seen this movie yet? I didn't see any other topics on it.
I just got home from it. I have never heard so many grown men and women scream so loudly in my entire life. Seriously.
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Dozier
from United States on 2002-08-05 06:10 [#00337037]
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I saw it Friday night. A was absolutely amazed at all the plot holes relating to the aliens themselves. Also, when the end of the movie came and it's point was made, it was a real let down for me. But I won't say anything more, for the people that haven't seen it and want to.
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Smyrma
from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2002-08-05 06:32 [#00337048]
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I didn't notice plot holes that much but they did leave them really mysterious which was good, I think..
It was sorta like Jaws in that it built the suspense without showing off the big bad special effects until mid to late in the film..
I will stop talking for others' sake now
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Smyrma
from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2002-08-05 16:30 [#00337490]
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Nobody else then?
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thegroover
from Canada on 2002-08-05 17:05 [#00337544]
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scared the shit outta me, i loved it
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-08-07 05:59 [#00340155]
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i went with my BF this past weekend to a packed movie theatre where everyone leaves their phone on....and we sat next to this man who kept making WEIRDO noises.....i was a little on the edge of my seat....holding my BF's hand tight......which made me feel better. but otherwise i didn't let out a peep.
i enjoyed it, it was not extremely predictable, the aliens were scary and mel gibson and joaquin phoenix's preformances were very quiet which was really unusual.....so in a word i LIKED it =0)
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skodt
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-08-07 06:13 [#00340163]
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i just watched it today adn i thought it was swell. all his films have this nice message in this enrelated plot with an interesting subject matter that doesn't seem to be dwelt on.
but you are always waiting for just that extra bit, even though it rarely comes.
i liked how 'his' character just kind of leaves for the lake.
like he knew, and escaped teh depravity of it all! that's the power of being god i guess!
it wasn't scary for me, but every one else was right out of their seats from time to time.
the opening credits adn score totally kicked bum!!!
um>to bed skodt, you old daddy!
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Clic
on 2002-08-07 06:14 [#00340164]
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I thought it was pretty nice.
Mel was pretty soft-spoken in it, kinda cool that way though.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-08-07 06:22 [#00340170]
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damn my Bf mentioned the same thing.....how all of his films share some common theme......maybe about God, religion, etc.
and yea his cameo in the movie was really great.....and how he KNEW abOOt the watahhhhh.......i had no idea abOOt that till the end......i was enthralled =0)
i don't wanna sleep.....i wanna bang on ze drums all day.......sleep is for the WEAK.....j/k....tee hee
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-08-07 11:29 [#00340337]
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but would you have liked it as much if you didnt have a guy sit next door makin those wierdo noises?..that must have enhanced the experience...I want a guy making weirdo noises in all the movies I go and watch..I will pay double..
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-08-09 22:05 [#00343496]
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what were the plot holes with the aliens?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-08-10 05:34 [#00343695]
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is it just me... or do the alien sounds sound alot like a track from confield?
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USACID
from Death Valley (Zambia) on 2002-08-10 05:42 [#00343700]
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i can't wait until M nightshamalamadingdong releases another 15 crap movies, so we can be rid of him.
i thought the sixth sense was boring, don't even give me the thing about the 'cool' ending cuz it suct
unbreakable was lame
and after my friend told me about this screen gem it makes me wanna watch Resident Evil w/ the commentary on....
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binarydreamer
from Littleton (United States) on 2002-08-10 05:49 [#00343705]
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don't see the Resident/commentary connection.. Sixth Sense was worth watching once, but I couldn't stand to sit through that another time for the rest of my life.. he moves so goddamn slow, which could work in some places but I have yet to see him pull it off.
As for Unbreakable.. jesus, why?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-08-10 05:50 [#00343708]
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didnt see unbreakable...
was it really that bad?
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USACID
from Death Valley (Zambia) on 2002-08-10 05:57 [#00343713]
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the resident evil movie was sooooo bad, i turned on the commentary track, and it made it even worse, made me wonder if the producers/director\writer even played the right fucking game....
After watching the first 1/2 if not 10min of unbreakable you should automatically figure things out, sorta like fight club ;) but fight club is soooooooooooo much better
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binarydreamer
from Littleton (United States) on 2002-08-10 06:05 [#00343718]
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ah ok.. i saw the latter half of resident evil, liked the scene with the Dobermans - dogs were done nicely with computer animation, some sick music taken off NIN's remix album Fixed was in the background, rest was lame.
Yeah sadly Unbreakable was terrible, gotta love Fight Club. Survivor (book by Chuck Palahniuk, author of Fight Club as well) is going to be made into a hopefully amazing (though delayed) movie! Huzzah!!
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Smyrma
from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2002-08-10 06:09 [#00343722]
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**SPOILERS**
Zeus and anyone else - some plot holes that I've since read/heard about:
The aliens came from a distant planet and thus travelled light years in a space craft that they made and operated, but they couldn't make a primitive battering ram to break down doors?
The alien could jump onto the roof of a house in an instant but it couldn't just grab Mel's son and run at the end?
The aliens are 'allergic' to water but they choose to invade a planet that is 75% water?
That's all I can think of.. either way it's still a really cool enjoyable movie
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flim-flam
from In a cupboard, in the kitchen. (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-10 12:59 [#00343984]
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What about the film Reign of Fire? Humans versus Dragons in London? Have got it via Kazaa.....but waiting to see it in cinema 1st!!
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Dozier
from United States on 2002-08-10 15:12 [#00344009]
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Yeah, those are the big ones.
Why was that last alien left behind? How did he eventually get out of the cupboard?
And to elaborate on the water thing. I find it highly unlikely that an alien species would develop and evolve long enough to get to the point that they were apparently at and have a physiology that resulted in massive chemical reactions when water came in contact with them. Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the entire universe, and it makes up 2/3's of the molecular content of water. Water's been found on several other planets in our solar system. Basically what I'm getting at is how common water probably is in the universe and the absurdity of an organism to exist that is allergic to it. Also, what did these aliens want with the humans? Don't they know that we ourselves are mostly made of water? That whole aspect of the movie just made no sense, and he didn't try to explain it in anyway.
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Dozier
from United States on 2002-08-10 15:13 [#00344010]
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And just for the record, I really like Unbreakable! I didn't the first time I saw it, because I kept waiting for the pace to pickup, but subsequent viewings were very enjoyable.
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skodt
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-08-10 17:04 [#00344038]
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i could ansewr yr q's about the aliens, cuz if you really think about it there is a simple explanation as to why they were chosen as the subject matter, as with their weakenss, but i don't really have the time.
it will be on the dvd for sure, so you can see for yourself.
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GolgiApp
from Seattle (United States) on 2002-08-10 18:57 [#00344121]
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I enjoyed the film quite a bit and was moved by Gibson's performance. However, one particular theme has puzzled me.
--SPOILER--
Much of the film is about faith and God. I'm an atheist, so I can't speak for the religious. I assume that if you believe in God and Creation you then must believe that God also created aliens with gaseous tubes protruding from their wrists. The ending of the film implies that God prefers one of his creations over the other, which is what I've found kind of backwards. The film implies that we are somehow 'superior' to the aliens when all history dictates otherwise. We frequently kill each other, a species we know and understand, in large numbers today and throughout our existence. To think that we wouldn't slaughter and destroy an alien species is completely absurd. We are a violent species who shouldn't be held in a higher regard the alien monsters. Protraying the aliens as the 'bad guys' because they invade and us the 'good guys' because we're us, is silly and contradictory to the religious theme. It's fine and dandy to have a film filled with ornery aliens. I disagree with the idea that a perfect being would set about a chain of events (swing away, the bat, the cups of water etc.) to protect one of it's species from another. It doesn't make any sense. As an atheist I don't really care and can enjoy the film on a entertainment level. If I was a god-fearing man, where it becomes a bit more of a message movie than a entertainment only one, I might be scratching my head a little.
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Smyrma
from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2002-08-10 19:51 [#00344152]
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I never really thought about that but you do have a point..
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GolgiApp
from Seattle (United States) on 2002-08-11 22:33 [#00345053]
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Here's an interesting theory I read in another post.
>>Ok, here is what I think is going on. If we are to believe the radio report near the end of the movie (and we don't HAVE to... the other radio report was certainly wrong) the aliens are harvesting human bodies. Therefore, I say that the human body produces some chemical that the aliens want to use (or sell, barter, etc.)... maybe it's a drug, like in "Liquid Sky". And this substance is valuable enough that the aliens are willing to risk going to Earth to get it. Also, since I doubt a civilization capable of interstellar travel would have developed into such a feral form (save for genetic engineering), I think that the REAL aliens are sitting up in those ships, never seen by the audience. The aliens who are dumped onto Earth are a lower class... maybe slaves, or even a highly advanced beast. It wouldn't matter to their masters then if a FEW got wet... but when Earth discovers the weakness, they can't risk losing their entire offensive force, and they retreat. Is this the REAL explanation? No... but I think it works, and I think M Night wants us to come up with ideas like this<<
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2002-08-12 01:49 [#00345155]
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ooooooh
I just got back from it, and I like that explanation just fine.
Aliens were HORRID, just terrible. Otherwise, pretty entertaining, got a matinee, otherwise wouldn't have been worth it.
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tunemx
from Budapest (Hungary) on 2002-08-12 02:02 [#00345169]
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Horrible movie. Same director as for Sixth Sense. Boring conversations, predictable plot. What else?
BTW the guy who escaped to the lakes was the director.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-12 05:44 [#00345250]
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thanks for the entertaining in depth analysis golgi :)
The first half was pretty boring (crop circles don't interest me much- they briefly mentioned the possibility that it can be done with rope and boards to give a smidge of credit to reality)
the latter half did a good job at getting into our natural fear of putting out constant defense/retreating/hiding from a superior offense. Sorta like the feeling in doom2 when you're in a labrynth with a cyberdemon that wants to kill you. or in a dream where something's chasing you.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-12 05:48 [#00345254]
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lots of bad comic "relief" too. like when that girl died when the car rammed her into that tree. Everyone laughed, but I didn't get the humor...
at least mel gibson didn't do his default fast talking stuttery character crap
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