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offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-01 20:20 [#00333903]
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I used to have mp3's play with one central mp3 player
(music match) but for some retarded reason windows media
started working, and it allows ease of playing 2 mp3's at
the same time (if you open two windows and click on a link
in each...) the results are almost all more interesting than
the original tracks, there's way more chaotic detail. This
is fun, there's very interesting potential here I think.
There's certain songs that are more compatible with
eachother, mostly for reasons of similar tempo and pitch.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-01 20:27 [#00333909]
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If I tried to do this using the software used to make the
tracks, it would require huge wav files and be a pain...
every time a track got boring in one window, I just changed
to a new track, constantly having a new meshwork.


 

offline electro from detroit on 2002-08-01 20:29 [#00333911]
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if you get your windows media player to be the default
player it will open when ever you need to play a song
you can reconfiguer that to make it the musicmatch


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-08-01 20:29 [#00333912]
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I was listening to some eerie Autechre song on Winamp while
watching lesbian porn on WMediaPlayer, and the shrieking and
groaning went well with the music. Think it was EP7. It
sounded badass, almost like something they'd actually DO,
layering porn behind crazy noises.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-01 20:35 [#00333918]
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I bet that did sound badass... a good combo too since one is
organized with a linear tempo (well for autechre anyway) and
the other is completely organic and lacking a "beat".

Actually I tried reconfiguring one as the default, but now
the retarded contraptions seem to randomly take turns
playing stuff, sometimes windows media takes a turn, but
then gets bored and lets music match play a song here and
there... they're conscious I swear.


 

offline Junktion from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-08-01 20:42 [#00333924]
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i once watched the Plaid video from xltronic while Lp5 was
playing, and i didnt notice (?)


 

offline outside_ninja from ninjaland (I touch no-one and on 2002-08-01 20:50 [#00333926]
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There is an interesting Velvet Underground track, The Murder
Mystery, which features one set of spoken vocals coming out
of the left channel, and one set of spoken vocals coming
from the right channel. Great stuff. Great track.

AMG review here


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-06 06:59 [#00338562]
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that song sounds interesting, I've thought about
simultaneous vocals before.

This listening technique kicks ass!!!! This makes all songs
better, daaaaaamn. Try any 2 songs, it's so organic. Out of
phase maddness.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-06 07:05 [#00338566]
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Yes! I'm finally able to listen to the two completely
opposite tracks at the top of
www.mp3.com/stations/blueberrymuffins at the same time!!!!
The happier one makes the evil one so much more eviler,
unfortunately, one is a lot louder but you can change the
volume levels accordingly, also each has a melody (so they
don't go so well together since it's out of phase)....
OMG you can exponentially maximize stupidity by playing
tchony's "outtie" and the retarded track "satan nme" lol


 

offline -V- from Ensenada Drive on 2002-08-06 07:23 [#00338589]
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Traktor, the DJing software, lets you do this with two mp3s.
You can change the speed of each mp3 individually, stop,
start, whatever you want, and save the output in realtime...
it's nice.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-06 07:26 [#00338590]
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excellerificant


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-08-07 01:02 [#00339833]
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have you heard any of steve reich's stuff m?
he did all these tape experiments where he would loop two
copies of a sample at slightly different speeds ...so they
would gradually go out of phase and get so garbled they
would be unrecognizable ...they were kinda considered to be
the precursers to 'generative music'
the results were sort of similar to the computer effect
vocal fuckery you hear in modern 'idm' only he did like 30
something years ago
check out 'its gonna rain' and 'come out and show them'

actually...check out 'music for 18 musicians' too..
unrelated to this topic...but its sort of based from the
same 'pulse' concept you were talking about in that other
thread you started


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-08-07 01:05 [#00339836]
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I am experimenting a bit with these concepts..I wish the
bloody mp3.com will pull a finger and approve that stuff :(


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-08-08 03:42 [#00341058]
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*plop*


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-08 03:57 [#00341071]
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I remember a lecture someone posted (with I think eno?) who
talked about something like the almost constant variation of
out of phase loops, but havn't heard reich's stuff. I'll hit
myself on the head with *looks around... the computer
scanner to make me remember to check it out.

I have also noticed your experimentation with these ideas
flea, in recent songs mostly. I think you use a similar
technique I used in asexual spore releasing hyper bloomer
(everything is loops that are silent until instructed to
make a sound (as a percussion unit)... this way every strike
almost is different.) I have some totally out of phase sound
in the end of TUTFW too.

Out of phase loops is a good idea to make variation,
considering the limitation of time's unidirectional time
line.


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-08-08 05:32 [#00341170]
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yeah...eno was talking about reich's work actually... it
supposedly was a big inspiration for him


 

offline Smyrma from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2002-08-08 05:51 [#00341185]
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The Flaming Lips released a 4-CD set meant to be played on 4
separate stereos at the same time. They are all in stereo
so it's 8 separate channels at the same time. I want to get
it.


 

offline DeLtoiD from Ontario on 2002-08-08 05:58 [#00341190]
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eh? i thought that was ween??


 

offline outside_ninja from ninjaland (I touch no-one and on 2002-08-08 06:37 [#00341207]
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I tried this experiment. I took 1 mp3. I made two further
copies. So all together I had 3 mp3s of the same noise. So I
made one panned left. So I made one panned Centre. So I made
one panned right.

So I had one play ¾ speed. So I had one play ¼ speed. So I
had one play normal speed. So then I loaded them all into
Cool Edit. So then I put them into Three different
channels.

So then I saved it, making One more mp3.

So then I listened to it.

HOLY FUCK WHAT A MESS!!


 

offline Smyrma from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2002-08-08 07:03 [#00341214]
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Nope, check here if you don't believe me ;)

Maybe Ween did something similar, I don't know.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-08 07:14 [#00341216]
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LOL


 


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