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offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-26 23:11 [#00326359]
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Im listening to the beatles for the first time in a good
long while, and its good stuff...

but know what I noticed?

their songs are over so FAST

i mean, i know thats how pop songs are... but its just
wierd, after listening to alot of electronic music that goes
on for at least like 6 mins on avg... and usually longer.

Its just odd.



 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2002-07-26 23:13 [#00326360]
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what's the stuff?


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-26 23:14 [#00326361]
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the stuff is the stuff about the whole electronic music
being generally longer


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2002-07-26 23:17 [#00326362]
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i can understand your point about the contrast in song
lengths in different music genres


 

offline outside_ninja from ninjaland (I touch no-one and on 2002-07-26 23:18 [#00326363]
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Thank-you for taking the time to share that with us.


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-26 23:23 [#00326365]
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Beatles Shmeatles..this is the Aphex Twin board for
crikey....

hmm..who did a song called Beatles..which was or wasnot a a
tribute to the pudding bowl haircut wonders..
hmm..

I am letting you off this time..you hear..on a mere
technicality...


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-07-26 23:56 [#00326380]
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Don't let Mr Ophecks hear you 'dissing' the Beatles!

He'll hunt you down and have you killed!


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-26 23:59 [#00326384]
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he knows about me dissing Beatles...they were mildly
revolutionary in their day..but now they are just a source
for royalty checks for that freak child molester that used
to be black..


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-27 00:00 [#00326385]
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Heheh, word


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-27 00:04 [#00326392]
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she's so.... heavy


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2002-07-27 00:06 [#00326395]
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Check Elvis songs and lots from that period and
before....It's really punk, two minute songs max, energy,
emotion compressed. no ego massaging with 14 minute
'journeys'.

I'm sure you all like one bit of your favourite track. 3.40
to 4.16 etc. why can't the track be that? forget the build
up etc. what are you afraid of?


 

offline outside_ninja from ninjaland (I touch no-one and on 2002-07-27 00:07 [#00326396]
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I love the long outro on that song a LOT


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-27 00:08 [#00326397]
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me too, that song is so heavy metal ("spit fire from the
heavy metal" -m.o.p.)


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-27 00:09 [#00326399]
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"it ain't over just keep pressin' rewind" -eve (ok, not the
same calibre as m.o.p. but relevant to the topic)


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2002-07-27 00:12 [#00326403]
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right
the beatles are over-hyped?
don't think so...

song writing ability?
a lot of "IDM" artist should take a leaf out of their book

quality not quantity lads


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-27 00:12 [#00326404]
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all of my songs are very short..so am I like pop?


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-07-27 00:24 [#00326422]
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''Mildly revolutionary''... BWAHAHAHAHA!!! John Lennon has
more talent in his dick, his cold dead dick, then even RDJ
has in his own body. When Jenkinson and Paradinas and Booth
and Brown and the guys BOC (dunno their names) are gone and
forgotten, the Beatles will stand as the benchmark, the
thing everyone should aspire to be. Fucking innovative
without being overly pretentious twats, and not afraid to be
''pop''... they didn't give a shit whether little kids liked
them, or LSD popping psychos. They just did whatever they
wanted and the music world adapted to THEM, not the other
way around.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-07-27 00:25 [#00326424]
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And I agree about the songs being over so quick... that's
the only thing that sucks about Daytripper and A Hard Day's
Night and some others... so good, too good, it would be
great to hear 10 more minutes of it, it just WOULDN'T get
boring. That makes me cry, that their songs are so short.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-27 00:28 [#00326432]
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it ain't over just keep pressin' rewind!!!!!! anyway i
totally agree with you about the beatles not trying to fit
into a niche, i think that's what mccartney has and perhaps
continues to try to do in his solo career tho.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-27 00:35 [#00326442]
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aphex's track "beatles" and all other RDJ album tracks are
over fast, which is a good thing since it makes change
necessary, fast pace maximizes organization in the least
time.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-27 00:36 [#00326445]
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i love to sing "beetles"


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-27 00:37 [#00326447]
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I agree about John Lennon..but he was being dragged down by
the cherubic jingle writer and the worlds' ugliest drummer
while he was alive..
and now he's dead..long dead..but not before unleasing a
pseudo art quasi intellectual wank fest that is Yoko Ono on
the world...

maybe he wasnt so great..why else would he co habitate with
people that wrote songs that launched a million Waffle Iron
campaigns...or smeared words on brown cardboard in house
paint and insisted on calling it art?


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-07-27 00:41 [#00326450]
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Who cares WHAT he did outside of the Beatles... he was the
most best and most important member of the best and most
important band EVER... I don't care if he killed hobos and
kept their heads in his fridge in his spare time, he wrote
Strawberry Fields Forever and nobody else did.


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-27 00:43 [#00326453]
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you misunderstood me..I am saying even the Beatles songs
that werent written by him but by git that played a violen
shaped bass left handed are utter shite...


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-27 00:44 [#00326457]
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nothing's real.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-07-27 00:47 [#00326460]
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Oh... gotcha. But utter shite?

Well, he's no Lennon... but utter shite, no way... his solo
career, barring his first couple albums, is utter shit...
and his Beatles songs tended towards sappiness... but not
utter shite, it can be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt but
I don't know how... :-/ He was the foil to Lennon's darker
stuff. A foil dipped in candy cane sap, but with lots of
nutritious melody. You're wrong cuz I said so!
Your avatar scares the SHIT out of me.


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-27 00:50 [#00326470]
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yeah maybe utter shite was a bit strong..but I had fun
saying it..I mean comeon..
SAY SAY SAY!!??..what the fuck was that all about?..and
Linda's ashes havent even cooled down yet and he's off deep
throating a floozy younger than his daughter...


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-27 00:53 [#00326476]
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that girl's a real push-over


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-07-27 00:55 [#00326481]
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I don't consider his solo career as being from the same
UNIVERSE as The Beatles... totally different dimension. I
don't listen to his solo crap.

Paul is a 6/10, John is a 10/10, but together, they're a
50/10. The sum is greater than the parts... Paul kind of
needed John to put a stop to the sap! :-)


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-27 00:58 [#00326485]
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that's some bad math there...

John 10/10 Paul -10/10..total sum zero but averages out to
7/10 by the sheer brilliance of John's stuff...


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-27 01:01 [#00326490]
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plastic ono band has some good songs on it, well at least 3.
mother, god, working class hero.


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-27 01:03 [#00326494]
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did you read about the 15 minute montage of the lessons in
geriatric cradle robbing (snogging that child non stop) that
was inflicted on the attendees of the wedding which had the
attendees recycling gourmet vegan cuisine in the aisles..but
somehow to Paul that translated to emotional resonance and
he has decided to include an extended remix of it on the
upcoming DVD...

a planet wretches in anticipation


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-27 01:04 [#00326497]
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+nods+..the exact three songs were my pick...agreed..


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2002-07-27 01:04 [#00326498]
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Ono has done some great disco tracks! There is nothing wrong
with being naked at the disco! ; )


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-27 01:05 [#00326502]
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"mother" is so fun to sing


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-07-27 01:06 [#00326504]
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Mother, God, Working Class Hero... all awesome. But I like
the whole album, every song, save for that one about fucking
Yoko... stomach churning... :-/



 

offline outside_ninja from ninjaland (I touch no-one and on 2002-07-27 01:09 [#00326512]
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I prefer Lennon's first solo album, Plastic Ono Band, to
Imagine: Bleak and filled with raw emotion = Deeply moving
(Radiohead, take note)


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-07-27 01:11 [#00326514]
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Imagine is so famous, but it isn't half the album that
Plastic Ono Band is, IMO. I really, really love that album.
Really.

Really. Mother is so fucking awesome, and it's personal for
me, the second verse is so me.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-27 01:14 [#00326518]
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radiohead take note?! where've you been for the last 7
years?!


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-07-27 01:17 [#00326522]
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I don't see why Thom is so dark and angry... what doesn't he
have that he wants, he's rich and he's got a wife and a
brand new kid, yet the guy doesn't seem to embrace ANY joy
whatsoever... at least John was going through some genuine
bullshit when he wrote that, showing his real feelings.


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-27 01:18 [#00326524]
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maybe because he is ugly?


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-27 01:26 [#00326540]
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i guess you haven't heard the new songs


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-27 04:34 [#00326627]
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wow

when i left there was like 3 posts on here...

i must say i disagree about lennon. he was great at
lyrics... but all the music was mccartney, and thats what i
love most about it.

Paul is totally overlooked and underrated.
His solo stuff isnt great, but what he did in the beatles
was amazing. Perhaps it was because of the paul, john combo,
but id say Paul was the more influential and talented one
with the music.

yeah


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2002-07-27 04:37 [#00326629]
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plastic ono band album is genius, as is all things must pass
by harrison

mccartney did nothing worth listening to after 1970



 

offline cre from reykjavik (Iceland) on 2002-07-27 23:42 [#00327428]
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i agree with zeus that paul mccartney is way too
underrated.

in the last years of the beatles, during the making of their
last (and best imo) albums (white album, abbey road, let it
be) paul was the ringleader - he wrote most of the songs,
did most of the arranging, and generally held the band
together.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2002-07-27 23:50 [#00327439]
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and was responsible for the break-up of the beatles due to
the fact he was so far up his own arse


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-27 23:52 [#00327441]
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actually no

john was the one that was all pissy.

He brought yoko into the studio all the time, which was like
an unspoken rule, to not have outsiders... and she sat there
and criticised stuff like she was a part of the band.

so paul told john he didnt want her there, and john went
apeshit because paul insulted her, and for that reason quit
and never talked to paul again


 

offline RobE from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-28 00:04 [#00327445]
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Hey I was brought up on Maccas solo stuff!..'McCartney' and
'McCartney 2' are great lp's (Imo,of course)
And Zeus,please cheer up....you look so miserable in yer
photo....like listening to too many Radiohead albums....};>


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-28 00:05 [#00327448]
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think so?

i have a smirk...



 

offline RobE from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-28 00:07 [#00327449]
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mmm...your left eyebrow does appear to be raised
slightly....};>


 


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