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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-07-24 11:20 [#00322599]
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A lot of people (mainly Reason users ;) ) are quick to denounce Fruity Loops as a "Toy" and say that it is not a serious music creation program.
I personally disagree - When you start playing around with softsynths and VST plugins, the piano roll score and custom instruments made in drumsyn there is a lot you can do. I also think that the limitations fruityloops imposes actually benefit you as they make you focus more and spend less time on less important elements of the track.
What are your opinions on this?
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-07-24 11:32 [#00322621]
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I actually thought Fruity Loops was a breakfast cereal when I first heard it mentioned here!
Hehehehe!
*Sorry......*
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-07-24 11:34 [#00322626]
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FruityLoops is the shit. I will probly still be using it 10 years, even though i probly have all the good hardware-stuff. It has all the goodies, and it's right in the tip of your fingers
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vonb
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-07-24 11:37 [#00322630]
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Fruity loops... sounds like some gay circus action...
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-07-24 11:38 [#00322631]
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>=(
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Murray
from Southend, Essex (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-24 11:38 [#00322632]
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Fruity Loops is by no way imaginable a mere toy
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-24 11:39 [#00322633]
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Vonb, You are /very/ witty.
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vonb
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-07-24 11:39 [#00322635]
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thanks
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-24 11:42 [#00322640]
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*hides in his wings and ponders humanity*
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-07-24 12:01 [#00322662]
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Could a Reason user (I'm not being aggressive here- just interested) please tell me what it is that makes Reason so much more "professional", apart from the price?
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-07-24 12:05 [#00322669]
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I'm guessing it does more professional stuff!
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-07-24 12:07 [#00322675]
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Fruityloops is the most flexiable piece of audio creating equipment (software) that i've ever seen!!
its great!
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2002-07-24 12:12 [#00322683]
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I don't really see how anyone can justify describing Fruityloops as a "toy". I use Fruityloops and Reason, and although I'm currently using Reason more (just for a bit of a change really), I would say that Fruityloops is the more flexible piece of software by a long, long way.
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2002-07-24 12:13 [#00322686]
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Does anyone know of any "pro" artists who use Fruityloops?
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-07-24 12:15 [#00322690]
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i've been thinking of that myself. I actually think that going pro with FL, requires a skill to change the "standard-sound" of FL. I really think that it could be possible
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-07-24 12:18 [#00322700]
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i think Orange Dust is pretty close to getting that sound
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-07-24 12:23 [#00322706]
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My multimedia lecturer said that someone charted using it a while ago. He didn't know who though...
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-24 12:39 [#00322725]
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Fruit Loops is the King and the Queen and the entire royal court...nay sayers are just jealous gearwhores who spent too much on the "real" software and now are bummed that they sound shit compared to a shareware
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-07-24 12:45 [#00322737]
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Yeah, that's the thing- musical talent aside, people seem to get better sounds out of floops...
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-24 12:48 [#00322740]
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it's the endless possibilites..mate..sooo much you can do..and then another version comes out..argh I am goin insane from the possibilities..:)
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hedphelym
from Montreal (Canada) on 2002-07-24 12:50 [#00322744]
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I agree with you, Ceri JC. I originally had the impression that Friuty Loops was amateurish and pretty basic, but now I know better. I know of tons of professionals who use it!
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-24 12:53 [#00322752]
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try here hedphelym http://www.mp3.com/wremaXd most of the stuff is Flooped...by the people on this thread:)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-07-24 13:01 [#00322764]
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I think it's because of the interface- most of the functionality is hidden. You have to delve to find the good stuff. It works well as it eases you in to using it...
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-24 13:06 [#00322773]
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good point..takes forever to find all the beuat features...
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-24 13:31 [#00322791]
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Everyone takes the piss when I say I used Music 2000 on the PS to create my music. Until they hear it that is. Whether it's good or not I think I took the PS program to a new optimum level, maximizing the abilitys and proving it is not just a PS game. Comments or would you like to cuss my music now you know where I made it?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-07-24 14:00 [#00322811]
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Yeah, lots of people here like your music (I intend to listen to it ASAP). I don't think people should think any less of it because of the s/w you used/
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-07-24 14:48 [#00322830]
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It's not a toy, it's a tool and a flexible one too. The gearsnobs probably didn't explore the program enough or used it for the wrong purpose. One program can't do everything. Fruityloops has a great set of features for a good price.
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-07-24 14:49 [#00322831]
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The people who label fruityloops as a "toy" are the people who have just forked out a fuck load of cash for there equipment that fruity could do :P
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Resident Evil
from heat some coffee, mmm, mmm (Australia) on 2002-07-24 15:07 [#00322841]
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"Everyone takes the piss when I say I used Music 2000 on the PS to create my music. Until they hear it that is. Whether it's good or not I think I took the PS program to a new optimum level, maximizing the abilitys and proving it is not just a PS game."
Right on! I've only ever made music with the Music games on the Playstation, and I think a lot of the stuff I've made sounds very good.
I'm very very keen to hear your music Chri5py...
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-24 15:12 [#00322843]
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Goto http://www.mp3.com/chri5py then! Straight away! :)
I'm waiting for MTV Music Generator for the PS2 to come through the post. I've heard that once you get used to the interface, its great, 'specially with the sampling kit you can buy.... The poormans music making kit! LOL
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Resident Evil
from heat some coffee, mmm, mmm (Australia) on 2002-07-24 15:23 [#00322845]
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Just been there Chri5py! And bookmarked your site for more visits. I very much enjoyed Final Day, Kwork and Ekim Project.
I really want MTV Music Generator for the PS2 but I can't find it anywhere! Oh yeah, the chance to record your own samples *drools*
I have one question. How did you get your tracks from the Playstation to the computer? I would love to put some of my stuff up in the web!
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-24 15:33 [#00322846]
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it's easy... get your self a scart output cable (for your PS) which has audio cables attached near the opposite end of the scart head. the scart goes in the tele and the cables can be plugged into a small adapter. this should fit into the "line in" socket in the back of the PC. Use Musicmatch to record. Nearer the time of recording, email me and I'll help you if you have probs...
Try Ebay for MTV MG for the PS2... That's where mins coming from.
LOOK OUT FOR A DARKER ALBUM FROM ME WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR!
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-24 15:34 [#00322847]
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Apologies for the dire writing skills shown in my last post.
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Resident Evil
from heat some coffee, mmm, mmm (Australia) on 2002-07-24 15:41 [#00322850]
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That's wonderful Chri5py! Thank's for the excellent info :)
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2002-07-24 15:47 [#00322855]
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hey chri5py, who's mike krowyak?
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-24 15:55 [#00322858]
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Almost.. my brother is Mike. Kay work was to do with someone I know called Kay (Kate). The title is a mix of the two songs these people inspired me to create; Mike and Kay, Ekim Project (Mike Project) and Kwork (Kaywork)
yea? ;)
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Clic
on 2002-07-24 16:00 [#00322862]
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A toy? Toys are supposed to be fun. Isn't music making supposed to be fun too?
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2002-07-24 16:01 [#00322863]
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I couldn't really give a shit how you make your music Chri5py, it sounds good to me.
:)
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Clic
on 2002-07-24 16:07 [#00322869]
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I've never heard your music Chri5py, but I'm in the same boat as Manic, if it sounds good, then I don't give a damn about what you used to make it.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-07-24 16:08 [#00322870]
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I'm going to go home and fire up fruity loops with crystal softsynth and MAKE SOME NOISE!!!
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2002-07-24 16:10 [#00322871]
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i see i picked up on the ekim thing cuz my names mud i mean mike and my friend fred and i used to reverse our names....way the way back in elementary school....ekim & derf....we were dorks
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-07-25 08:54 [#00323799]
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Last night I started (and nearly finished) a pretty good SAW 2 style track. Mainly 3 different softsynths, but loads of background music going (very) very quietly that you have to really listen for.
I read an article on synths yesterday which confirmed a lot of what I had learned myself, but cleared up a few things. It seems to have made my synth programming a lot better "overnight". Can anyone recommend any good tutorials on synth theory? URLs perhaps? Thanks :)
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-07-29 18:03 [#00329396]
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"Does anyone know of any "pro" artists who use Fruityloops?"
Hellfish, Dan Hekate, Somatic Responses, Heretik, and Sonic Belligeranza have admitted to using Fruityloops.
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-07-29 18:04 [#00329397]
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...they DO use fruityloops i should say, i made it sound like a crime with "admitted" then.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-07-30 08:50 [#00330335]
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I love the TS404, I used to only use simsynth as I found it easier to get "nice" sounds out of it. However, I think the TS404 is good for getting a wider range of types of sound now that I've mastered (sounds a bit egotistical ;) ) it. Which are other fruityloop users favourite softsynths?
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Pirotess
from Swansea (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-30 08:54 [#00330340]
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Me too :D
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-08-01 13:09 [#00333511]
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