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the most important LP of the 90s
 

Aphex Only-Child from usa on 2001-08-01 02:42 [#00018977]



this is an open forum to discuss the topic title. there may
be heated debates or perhaps even a fight or two. but,
please remember that we retain the freedom to change our own
minds and we need not be irrational. in this room, everyone
is right. except for all you bullshi**ers.

let us begin. STP. yay or nay?


 

=|R3FL3X|= from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2001-08-01 02:51 [#00018980]



Nirvana - nevermind.

Although its not their best work {iam a fan}, it was the
most popular, but important? i think so.


 

Quoth from Lincoln on 2001-08-01 03:38 [#00018987]



NIN - The Fragile


 

Quoth from Lincoln on 2001-08-01 03:39 [#00018988]



or shit...did that come out in 2000? fuck....let me rethink


 

Aphex Only-Child from usa on 2001-08-01 03:41 [#00018992]



the downward spiral, perhaps?


 

Quoth from Lincoln on 2001-08-01 03:43 [#00018993]



I think actually *Beck - Odelay... why¿ must you ask, b/c
it's the most different "POP/Important" album I can think of
that I bought in the 90's


 

radiowerkshop from canada on 2001-08-01 03:44 [#00018994]



hands down nirvana album
but if they didn't do it someone else would have so i'll
say...
siamese dream smashing pumpkins
most important to me anyway


 

Aphex Only-Child from usa on 2001-08-01 03:57 [#00019001]



yea... i cant get over this nirvana thing. it seems to me
that it indeed is the most important album of the 90s. but
it is so cliche to cite that, and i know that there were a
few more albums that i adored for all more different
reasons. the siamese dream lp is a perfect example of what
im trying to get across. that particular album would not
exist without my bloody valentine patenting the sound first.
and odelay is excellent too...

btw - fyi. the downward spiral is the best NIN album to
date.


 

Barrett, Syd from Cambridge on 2001-08-01 04:15 [#00019011]



Nirvana - Nevermind
others:
NIN - Downward Sprial and The Fragile
Tool - Aenima
Radiohead - O.k. Computer

i suppose pearl jam ten. not a fan of the album, but it was
pretty significant. you can't deny 10 million copies.


 

radiowerkshop from canada on 2001-08-01 04:19 [#00019013]



i got an autographed copy of ok computer signed by the whole
band so i hope it's the most important album of the 90 so i
can retire by the time i'm 30


 

=|R3FL3X|= from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2001-08-01 04:24 [#00019016]



I stick with Nirvana on this one guys. Nin played a huge
roll then too.


 

Aphex Only-Child from usa on 2001-08-01 04:27 [#00019017]



but, do you believe 'ten' had more pertinence than
'nevermind' when defining the genre that these 2 LPs helped
create? i still believe 'nevermind' is more relevant in its
particular chapter in the history books.

and of course, ok computer. this is another amazing album
that again redefined music in the 90s. but, the best? more
significant than nevermind? im baffled now. what do you
think?

btw - im seeing radiohead tomorrow nite for the first time
ever!



 

radiowerkshop from canada on 2001-08-01 04:33 [#00019018]



i was extremely disappointed when ok computer came out i was
expecting the kind of rush that i got when i discovered
aphex twin. the hype was too much it screwed it up and
continues to. to this day for me and a lot of people agree
with me it was supposed to be this hybrid record that was to
finally utilize electronic elements in rock and it just
didn't. kid a is a much better representation of that had
that come out in the nineties i would have had to say that
would be it. kid a was what i was expecting. i really ought
to record things when i hear them in my head instead of
expecting them from other people.
that gives me an idea.


 

Aron? from Canada on 2001-08-01 04:34 [#00019019]



DJ Shadow - Endtroducing.


 

Aphex Only-Child from usa on 2001-08-01 04:48 [#00019023]



aaron, you are fucking brilliant! DJ Shadow wrote a
beautiful hip hop fusion album that set the mood for how the
millennium was going to end... and how the future is going
to begin. this one LP broke down many of the barriers
between b-boys and punks and music enthusiasts all alike. i
remember bumping this album everyday when it came out, just
driving around getting faded with my friends. it is an
excellent highschool smoke album, that at the same time
destroyed everything conventional about alternative music.
this is extremely important perhaps more than 'nevermind' or
'ok comp'. in fact, radiohead would not have made the same
album if dj shadow had never existed.


 

bogus on 2001-08-01 05:09 [#00019025]



instead of nirvana i'd put the pixies... doolittle or
something..

but no
I'd go with radiohead: OKC


 

Quoth from Lincoln on 2001-08-01 05:36 [#00019029]



Radiohead - The Bends


 

Xanatos from NYC on 2001-08-01 05:44 [#00019030]



For Hip Hop:
Notorious B.I.G. - Ready to Die


 

=|R3FL3X|= from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2001-08-01 06:09 [#00019034]



Amon tobin was a great influence along with DJ Qbert in the
jungle/hip hop/scratch screen.

Amon Tobin fused Jazz and blues with jungle. but quite
originally.


 

LtAirComStarscream from New York on 2001-08-01 06:56 [#00019043]



even though i hate there music. korn brought along this
whole raprock phase that came along now. so i guess there
albums were important.


 

Aphex Only-Child from usa on 2001-08-01 07:00 [#00019044]



korn is bad for the ears


 

=|R3FL3X|= from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2001-08-01 07:07 [#00019049]



That WASNT Korn it was Incubus. They totally sold out, they
used to be rapmetal or whatever. Funk Metal was what they
called it. Also this band that did a Nirvana remix. I cant
remember their name, but they were rap metal, really old.


 

=|R3FL3X|= from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2001-08-01 07:09 [#00019050]



I hate that shit though. Sux.


 

Clobe Smith from over here on 2001-08-01 07:51 [#00019063]



radiohead ok computer. man, even my mom says she sees them
being influential. (she thinks they are too depressing, but
still ...)


 

PostModernVancouver from Vancouver,Canada on 2001-08-01 12:08 [#00019108]



Dont be fooled guys, I understand why everyone picks Beck
and Nirvana etc. as MIA, but there's no single album which
represents the feel of the 90's (without words) then Aphex's
Richard D. James album.
Aphex understands and reads his moments better then most
artists ( barring Bowie).
The hyperspeed sounds and moments, the chaos, the
unpredicitability, fear, sadness, insanity and loathing that
were the 90's ( and is still going in the same vein in 2001)
are better represented in each short tune on the Richard
D.James album then any other in my opinion.
Each tune of RDJ album has that sad , melancholy and melody
in the back and foreground of the chaotic sounds, which to
me represents the overriding sadness these time can give us
due to its unpredictability and uncertainty ( more then any
other time this last century) and simply the mourning for
roots and grounding and assurance....



 

Phobiazero from Sweden on 2001-08-01 12:11 [#00019109]



"the most important LP of the 90s"

For who?


 

Arch Rival from NY on 2001-08-01 12:12 [#00019110]



Wu Tang Clan - 36 Chambers

DJ Shadow - Entroducing

Aphex Twin - RDJ Album (US version 15 tracks)

BOC - MHTRTC


 

DF118 from the Left Wing on 2001-08-01 12:19 [#00019112]



Massive Attack - 'Blue Lines'

Primal Scream - 'Screamadelica'

Not my favourite albums of the 90s (as much as I love 'em),
but the most influential. In the UK, anyways...


 

phiz from Amsterdam on 2001-08-01 14:46 [#00019127]



The Orb-Adventures beyond the Ultraworld

the first record that got me into all this electronic music
in the first place.


 

DAVE from Munich on 2001-08-01 15:30 [#00019136]



What about Beastie Boys ?
Check your Head was groundbreaking I guess.

But Nirvanas Nevermind has good chances to win this
competion.

I love both albums very much !!!!!


 

4 on 2001-08-01 17:03 [#00019144]



OK Computer and Check Your Head are both up there for me.
However, I belive that 30 years from now, the most important
LP of the 90s will be the flaming lips' Zaireeka. It's 4
cds containing different parts of the same songs designed to
be played simultaneously on four cd players. The effect is
mind-boggling. It's definitely the most revolutionary album
of the 90s. What really sucks is that they only made 5000
copies of it. I paid $70 for it on ebay! Totally worth it
though.


 

thorpe from aus on 2001-08-01 17:34 [#00019146]



for me its Photek's Modus Operandi , it completely changed
the way i listen to/produce music


 

Loogie from UK on 2001-08-01 17:40 [#00019148]



Personally I think albums are nearly always flawed, as they
ALWAYS have some shit on them.

BOC - MHTRTC comes quite close.

I prefer individual tracks.


 

Aphex Only-Child from usa on 2001-08-01 19:37 [#00019156]



thanx again for participating.

at the moment i am convinced that 'endtroducing' was the
most important LP of the 90s, with 'nevermind' trailing
closely behind. dj shadow continues to school the entire
music industry on structure and how music should be
presented. at the same time, he set a new standard for hip
hop as well as alternative music in general.

however, i did notice some other great albums mentioned.
'screamadelica' kicked off the acid-house drenched rock
marriage in a major way. how about the stone roses 'stone
roses' LP? that is another excellent album that deserves
recognition. what do you think?


 

-a from --- on 2001-08-01 20:28 [#00019162]



For me it was "I Care Because You Do...," but for the
mainstream world I would also have to agree with Nivana,
"Nevermind."


 

Organ Grinder from my own little fantasy world on 2001-08-01 20:38 [#00019163]



NIRVANA - "Nevermind"

It was the end of glam rock and the beginning of grunge, the
turning point in rock music as we know it.

Also important i believe are NIN Downward Spiral, KoRn's
debut since it was ripped off so fucking much that they
themselves became sterile,.. erm...

Pearl Jam's TEN, Tool's AENIMA,.... and Aphex's Richard D
James Album and I Care Because You Do.


 

ross on 2001-08-01 20:43 [#00019166]



Ok computer & loveless by mbv


 

pauwl from the dark on 2001-08-01 21:50 [#00019181]



yeah i'll agree with your commets on entroducing, great
album, but what about the jesus jones liquidizer album?, a
true classic me thinks!


 

=|R3FL3X|= from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2001-08-01 22:00 [#00019183]



Yeah but were talking about the most important of the 90's.
what changed the face of music for the most people? I would
still have to say Nirvanas Nevermind.

Iam a true hardcore Nirvana fan. Have been forever.


 

pauwl from the dark on 2001-08-01 22:03 [#00019187]



have you heard the liquidizer album reflex?, if not you
should check it, we are talking ground breaking man i tell
ya, rubble, dirt, tarmac, shite everywhere!.


 

=|R3FL3X|= from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2001-08-01 22:08 [#00019195]



Hahhah thanx. Ill check that out soon here then. Sounds cool
to me. If its that ground breaking!


 

pauwl from the dark on 2001-08-01 22:15 [#00019203]



werd


 

Stone from San Antonio, Hell, U.S.A. on 2001-08-02 00:48 [#00019227]



Wow, it's great to see so many people mentioning Nirvana.
That band seems to be forgotten a lot these days by the fans
of rap metal and sterile pop.

Yes, Nevermind was the most important LP of the 90's...but
looking at the music scene by 1999 who woulda known? At
least in the mainstream. It was 1989 all over again! You
had your new kids, and your warrants, and your M.C. hammers.


Nevermind really didn't change much, but Nirvana brought
about this brilliant little burst of passion and creativity
that you knew wasn't gonna last. And it didn't.

And I would be shocked if it ever happens again in a mass
mainstream rush toward a scene, the way it happened in
1991.

But I still love Nirvana. My favorite band or musician
ever.

Runners up: NIN: Downward Spiral/The Fragile

Radiohead: Ok Computer

I know a bunch of you already said those, but that's because
it's true. : )



 

Barrett, Syd from Cambridge on 2001-08-02 05:37 [#00019240]



could someone explain to me how a Boards of Canada album was
the most important LP of the 90's? or a Photek? they're good
albums, but most important of the 90's? couldn't be more off
on this one.


 

Bn1 from New Zealand on 2001-08-02 05:44 [#00019242]



Nirvana, Dj Shadow, Radiohead all come in but 2 I think are
important and haven't been mentioned..
Massive Attack - Blue Lines
Air - Moon Safari


 

=|R3FL3X|= from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2001-08-02 09:28 [#00019272]



Stone: Nirvana is my all time fav right with AFX. Cause ive
been listening to Nirvana forever. and I used to collect
their live shows and bootlegs and demos and stuff. Still got
tons. they are awsome.


 

walt from europe on 2001-08-02 10:56 [#00019300]



dj shadow. endtroducing
aphex twin. ... time to choose ... (but my favourite of his
are come to daddy and windowlicker, but these are no albums,
but do form in some ways one album in two parts)

most important pieces

steve reich. the cave
philip glass. the screens
symphony no.3
les enfants terribles
perhaps his etudes for piano, too
john adams. violin concerto

never listened to nirvana, though (at the time of nevermind
i listened to shostakovich and philip glass). there are some
others of the 90s which i like very much... pearl jam's
yield, smashing pumpkins' adore, tom waits' bone machine,
paul bley's not two, not one (that's a jazz album). bjoerk
also is important for the 90s.



 

Earface on 2001-08-02 14:04 [#00019331]



The Prodigy - Music For The Jilted Generation

Nirvana - Nevermind (although I prefer Bleach - I know, it
was 1989)

DJ Shadow - Entroducing
and perhaps also - Preemptive Strike

Cable - When Animals Attack

and all of the Aphex Twin releases (they were all monumental
for me)



 

=|R3FL3X|= from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2001-08-02 18:23 [#00019375]



Bleach was, and is still amazing.


 

Aphex Only-Child from usa on 2001-08-02 18:41 [#00019380]



hi everyone. i was fortunate enough to see radiohead last
night in chicago. for those of you who are interested, the
show was absolutely fucking amazing. ive never seen them
live before, and i must say i was very very impressed.
anyway, on to the discussion board:

bjork is another artist we must consider. however, i am
unsure whether or not she contributed much towards the
progression of music (aside from her excellent discography
and her time with the sugarcubes). 'homogenic' for me was a
large leap forward from her previous release, displaying
bjork's hypnotic voice and top notch production work. i am
NOT convinced that 'homogenic' is the most important LP of
the 90s. rather, it is the best thing bjork has ever done.
(the most important thing she has done was 'dancer in the
dark')

here's another album i would like to throw on the table:
pavement's 'slanted and enchanted'. this album, by itself,
set new heights for indy-rock, breathing new life into the
songwriting process and the art of lyric. sign o the times,
baby.


 


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