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Cornell
from Seattle, Washington on 2001-07-30 16:08 [#00018695]
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Just curious... now that I've found an RDJ messageboard worth returning to, I might as well put these questions forward, because I've never found anyone that could possibly answer them... until now that is. All you guys seem fairly keyed in and unlike some other Aphex Twin listeners I know, you guys actually have copies of the hard to get tracks. So here goes...
On Bummy... my mp3 has a bit of a 'squiggle' sound at the start... as if the song is on a big reel and someone has sped up the tape to get to the song... it may just be the song (RDJ has been known to be just a *little* quirky, has he not? :P)... but I just want to know whether the song is meant to be like this or whether I just have a low-quality mp3. I don't think it's the latter... it sounds fairly high quality... although, now that I think of it... it does sound a bit like an LP... you know what I mean... it sounds like a copy of an LP being played ('dirt' or whatever, little bits of noise in the background)... is it meant to sound like this as well?
Second question... on Gak 2, there's a section in the song that sounds a bit weird to me. About 5:15 into the song, RDJ starts to play around with the beat, stuttering etc., but after a couple of beat-shifts, (at about 5:20 in the song), my mp3 seems to 'skip'... I mean, it doesn't sound like a legit beat-shift; it simply sounds like the CD skips for about 2 seconds... from about 5:20 to 5:22 on my mp3, anyway. There's a beat-shift at 5:14, then another at 5:17... but at 5:20, it really sounds like a skip. Can anyone verify for me?
Third and final question (for now)... on Gak 3, about 59 seconds into the song, there seems to be a 'squeak' in the song, very similar to the squeaks you commonly hear in mp3s... can anyone verify whether this is meant to be here? Or did I just simply botch my download?
Thanks guys :)
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twat
from your ass on 2001-07-30 16:43 [#00018701]
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just spend some money and buy it tight-fist
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Transmission
from Holland. Yeah! on 2001-07-30 16:51 [#00018702]
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BUY STUFF.
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Thiefofalways
from Germany on 2001-07-30 17:15 [#00018704]
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If you can buy the albums, I think you should, most musicians that are independant or really have their own directions with their material are the ones that Mp3's hurt the most.....On the other hand Ive got a TON of RDJ's Mp3's from all the remixes and collaborations hes done over the years. I tried to buy the albums at first, but paying Import price for 1 single track is just stupid and out of the question on a salary like mine. If you are that into him, great, support the artist, buy the disk and answer your own question....
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Cornell
from Seattle, Washington on 2001-07-30 17:20 [#00018705]
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Don't you guys get it?
What I can buy, I buy. My current collection is as follows:
Classics 51/13 Aphex Singles Collection Analogue Bubblebath Volume 3 (CD) SAW Volume II (24-track CD) ...I Care Because You Do Richard D James Album Quoth On On Remixes On (US Edits) Words and Music Come To Daddy Come To Daddy Remixed Xylem Tube Windowlicker Expert Knob Twiddlers
Now, I don't want to sound rude, but to you who called me a tightfist, you can just kiss my ass. As you can see, I have no qualms about shelling out money for albums, but it's the songs on the albums THAT NO ONE HAS A COPY OF or albums THAT NO ONE WANTS TO SELL or albums THAT WEREN'T EVEN DISTRIBUTED or albums that DIDN'T EVEN MAKE IT OUT OF EUROPE that I'm concerned with.
Do you think I'd hesitate to buy GAK or Power Pill or Joyrex J4 or "The Philosophy of Sound and Machine" if someone was selling it? Of course not. I'd practically kill for those... but seeing as there probably isn't a copy for sale on the planet, I have to settle for mp3s...
So stick your insult. Anyone else here on this message board who actually knows what it's like to be in my situation, not being able to buy original copies, I'm sure would say the same thing.
But back to the topic at hand... can anyone help me out with these mp3s?
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Organ Grinder
from from my own little fantasy world on 2001-07-30 17:33 [#00018709]
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the problem with mp3's is that you never know what sort of quality they'll be -- the best bet is to look at the bitrate on the mp3, but another possibility with mp3's is the possibility of major hoaxes. Some people get sick pleasure out of naming a track as an AFX song, and then being overjoyed when some unknowledged person downloads it, thinking it is true AFX.
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Cornell
from Seattle, Washington on 2001-07-30 17:34 [#00018710]
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Thiefofalways:
Like I just mentioned in my above post, I thoroughly support RDJ, but it's virtually impossible to get hold of some of his earlier releases. I'm sure I'm just like 99% of his fans; if they re-released his old stuff, we'd hand over our hard-earned money in a heartbeat.
But honestly, for someone living in Seattle, in the year 2001... what do you think the chances are of finding a copy of Gak or the Mealtime compilation or Power Pill or the Ambient 4 Isolationism compilation would be? And even if I did find someone with a copy, the chances of them willing to sell it are even slimmer. And let's not even think about the price...
I don't care about having a 'rare' LP or CD... I just want his music. It doesn't matter if I can say, "ooh ooh, I have one of only 1000 ever pressed in the entire world"... I'd settle for a just a simple copy... like I said, all I want is the music. And I'm willing to pay, it's just that there's practically no-one out there willing to sell. I don't want anything flash, I just want the songs. If they re-released everything on simple CDRs and wanted me to pay RRP, then of course, I'd go ahead and buy it. I don't care about 'original copies' or 'first prints' or 'limited editions'... I hate to use a corny phrase, but to me, it's all about the music. Hell, I use Kazaa to download some of the hard-to-get stuff... but if I could be assured it was high-quality legit copies and I knew the money would go straight to RDJ, I would have no problems with forking out money for every download.
'It's all about the music'
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Lord Lufford of Morley
on 2001-07-30 17:41 [#00018712]
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Yeah, I wish the early and/or rare stuff would be rereleased.
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Transmission
from Holland. Yeah! on 2001-07-30 17:46 [#00018715]
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okok, I see now ;)
I am ASHAMED :p
LRZ
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=|R3FL3X|=
from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2001-07-30 18:02 [#00018721]
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Read this... People rip cds, rip whatever into a certain quality or mp3, or not even sometimes. As it gets passed along the line, data transfer can mess up a little bit, hence your odd noises, and bleep or scrath type thing. Its quite common.
Also, when people get some mp3s they think that they can re-record them at a higher "quality" level, but really they are changing the main volume on the mp3 its self, making it sound more like shit, just louder, and to some probably better. We rip mp3s at higher rates to get more quality, the more quality the bigger the files can get, very fas too.
Those tracks you describe, could very well come from 1 place, or rather 1 person, just spawned throughout the 'net from computer to computer, finally to me and to you, and ofcourse to many others. Copies of copies of copies are being made. Things can fuck up.
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Phobiazero
from Sweden on 2001-07-30 19:10 [#00018731]
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Help the poor man instead of talking, guys! Its pretty obvious what he is looking for... :-)
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=|R3FL3X|=
from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2001-07-30 19:30 [#00018735]
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Ah Geez.. do you want some mp3s?
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Thiefofalways
from Germany on 2001-07-30 21:12 [#00018752]
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Cornell, E-mail me man, Im sure sumphin can be worked out....Im only gonna be here in Germany a few more weeks, my 4 years is up and Im goin back to the states (Cable Modem-WOO-HOO!!) but itll be a while before Ill have a flat an internet, but I dont move out of here for a few weeks.... I completely here you about not being able to find the rare stuff in the states, the only thing I could ever do was go to Boston and pay ungodly amounts of money for 2nd AFX vinyl. I got an idea about how to fix your sound quality prob. , but Im not sure, E-mail me...
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Cornell
from Seattle, Washington on 2001-07-31 02:48 [#00018800]
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Everybody listen to phobiazero!
I think he's the only one that really understands where I'm coming from. I've spend just as much money as the next RDJ fan out there... all I want is some help from fellow fans.
I know about sample rates, I know about bit rates, I'm not a *complete* moron. If I have to resort to downloading mp3s of his, then I only download 128kb... yes, it's possible that some clueless person has just saved a lower quality mp3 as 128, but that's not the point at hand.
To me it sounds like how a 128 should sound like. It's the unpredictability of RDJ that has me questioning these songs. All I'm asking for is someone to crack out their CD/LP/mp3 and tell me whether I'm the only one with these sounds or not. I mean, come on... this is RDJ we're talking about. I guarantee that everyone on this messageboard, at least once in their life, has listened to a RDJ song, heard something weird and *forced* themselves to listen to it again just to make sure that it's meant to be there and not a scratch on their vinyl/CD. So can you guys stop thinking the worst and just help me out? From one money-spending RDJ fan to another?
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=|R3FL3X|=
from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2001-07-31 02:50 [#00018802]
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Yeah I know that. I listened to what your talking about. I don't hear what your saying.
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Organ Grinder
from my own little fantasy world on 2001-07-31 02:55 [#00018805]
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sorry bout my blabbing. i'll see what i can do.
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naker
on 2001-07-31 04:29 [#00018813]
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that squigle at the beginning of bummy is supposed to be there, thats just how he started it out. The meal time compilation kinda sucks. Even if the style of music is your taste, it doesn't really taste to good, only a couple of tracks worth buying it for.
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