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I really want to get into her music...can anyone recommend an album or a track please? |
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she only has 1 album, to my knowledge |
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I've only had a listen to her stuf fon warp radio and the BoC remix of sandsings. Sandsigns is okay (BoC's influence no doubt), but I can't help feel that she was just signed because she was a girl- if a bloke made her music I doubt warp would sign him... bit like electrogirl on rephlex... (Cue Lecouer et. all shrieking and attacking ceri) |
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she used to work in warp and is married to one of the autechre guys....thats how she got into making music, she never send in any demo tapes or anything like that...she was an insider |
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I thought she went out with one of the Ae guys- I didn't know they were married... |
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She used to be the press officer for warp, as well as the wife of Sean Booth. They are all friends, I don't think it's 'positive discrimination'. Just friends..8) |
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Soz Bob, I'm a slow typer.. |
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"I don't think it's 'positive discrimination'." But her music isn't very good... |
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You were saying if a bloke made her music, you doubt she would be signed? that's positive discrimination, I'm not attacking you. I think her music is really weak, warp release her music 'cos they're friends and they might like it... |
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she isnt a bad atrist....from what ive heard off the warp site (i dont own any of her songs on cd) she is 'just another artist'..but not standing out doesnt make her a crap artist.... |
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hey dickhead - beliveit or not people don't discriminate against women like you do - so you don't like the music of mira calix or lectrogirl - you think they were signed cos they are women ?? what are you stupid ? it's no wonder women don't get involved in electronic musicv fhe way they do in other types of music with attituides like this and the pummelling bjork gets ie _"she got where she is by sleeping with talented men" .. your taste is your taste your sexisim is your fucking problem - please don't spread it around |
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Yeah cuntfoot. (just levelling the gender bias) I'm out. |
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Hey astrod: Nice of you to jump to defend the poor little fragile women, they obviously need a big strong man like yourself to protect them from the big bad chauvanist pig. re-read what I said: I didn't say she was signed because she went out with the AE guy, that was a seperate post. I said she wouldn't have been signed if she made exactly the same music but was a man, I don't think it has anyhting to do with her being married to the Ae guy, just that labels want to be seen to not discriminate and so employ "positive discrimination". Nice of you to use the word "dickhead" as an insult- in itself a sexist remark... Also why do you presume I discriminate against women? I'm a feminist, I'm for equal rights. It's positive discrimination I'm against. Quernstone: What a horrid sexist word... |
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I don't like this sort of music anyway, but hers is really crap... |
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My my my you really are a jerk, so i'm defending the little ladies am i ? i think i'm exressing an opinion - fuck you don't know when to stop .. can you not read either - i didn't mention anything about her being married to sean from autechre - i simply said that you are an arse becuase you think that both the artists you mentioned were signed on the basis of their gender not music - a completley ridiculous argument .. but from this i can probably assume the worst .... you are clearly not a feminist - you fucking try to hunt down positive discrimination at the first hint of a woman on labels you like ..hunter boy |
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I hate it when people use swear words when hurling unjust abuse in postings...it shows an absolute lack of understanding of the english language vocabulary. |
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I have her Peel Sessions release and the Prickle EP. I will admit though, I don't listen to them very often. |
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Oh yeah, but 'Sparrow' is a pretty cool track. |
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ya i agree ya - can't let the peasants spoil ourt beautiful land with their foul language can we.. i must remind myself i don't understand the english language every time i use strong "unjust" words |
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stop being peasantist. Who says they have foul tongues? |
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Its too easy to 'flame' someone when they have a differing opinion to yourself isn't it? Might I suggest you get yourself a thesaurus or a dictionary....both of which, would be of great help to you, I am sure. |
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I only asked if someone could recomend me a song...:( |
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get the prickle ep its really nice - one on one is not that bad considering her main influences were spacemen3 and my bloody valentine (2 of my favourite bands ever)... Sparrow is a fucking awesome song, if she can make only the odd track like that then she deserves to be signed. |
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maybe you should read it - you will find words like patronising -superioiry complex + explantions of the words censorship and your favorite unjust... |
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that was meant for jedi chris .... |
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Sorry I didn’t mean to be condescending with those dictionary remarks; you are obviously a complete illiterate and would have no use for such things! |
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i like some of her stuff but alot of it is kind of nieve who cares how she got signed... if my wife was interested in making music, Id help her get a record deal if it was in my power. And if my wife had a record deal... and wanted to help me get a record deal... ok. why not? such judgemental people... |
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Hello Zeus ;) |
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do you mean i'm illiterate or i'm completley literate - i teach literacy to adults in my spare time.. |
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Humm I was wondering what people thinked of her music... I don't like it too. like zeus says it's nieve. And I don't like her because of one thing : I went to a Plaid date in Paris, and mira calix was dj-ing before, and she just plays records one after one, without mixing, like a jukebox. there were nice tracks but well, I did'nt paid 12€ to hear the warp playlist but to hear REAL LIVE STUFF. and she plays about 1h30 long ! then plaid started, and It was really good, but I got to leave because I had to take the last metro ! aaargh ! |
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Yeah, I'd start with Sandsings(BoC remix) I really like this song a lot. Probaly because BoC remixed it, but it's a really good listen. |
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not yhe easiest music to get into..I have Peel Session I like it a lot..it's pretty heavy going..cruchy and noisy..it's easy to get into if you are coming from an Industrial background.... |
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I feel a bit sorry for her really...too easy not to take her seriously and treat her just as the token female... Regardless of how good/bad she is, all people say is it x&xs wife, or WARPs token female...& the music gets ignored or dismissed... I haven't heard a lot of her music but the few bits I have seemed ok...not something I'd rush and buy but respectable and certainly worthy of release... It's a pity that what seems like a forward thinking music still sometimes feels like a male-only domain...but the same seems to be true of most of western culture..which is kinda sad considering we're in 2002... |
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I like that naive childish quality to her music..it transport you into a childhood dream state.. also her music reminds me a lot of PRAM... |
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she has a few mixed cd's ive seen i have prickel and its very relaxing and chill |
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i thought there was a woman in broadcast....or was it brothomostates? |
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SHE PUNCHED ME IN THE STUMACH WHEN WE WERE IN SCHOOL TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!! I HATE HER GUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Yes, Broadcast has a female singer |
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You choose which ever you are most comfortable with! As for the adults you teach - 'poor' them! |
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bla bla bla Get the Prickle EP that one´s nice! |
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they're quite pleased to be able to read and write - it helps them stay above the poverty line and helps with some of their chances of staying out of prison. don't trivialise it you silly little prick. |
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If you do teach adults literacy, good on you- I've done reading catch up schemes with high school kids and found it very rewarding. The best was when I managed to get this kid with A.D.D. to actually enjoy reading, it made it so worthwhile. Now to my response to what you said... "hey dickhead - beliveit or not people don't discriminate against women like you do" I've already said I'm for equal rights, why accuse me of discrimination? " - so you don't like the music of mira calix or lectrogirl - you think they were signed cos they are women ?? what are you stupid ? " If this was what I thought and it was untrue, it would indicate ignorance, not stupidity. "it's no wonder women don't get involved in electronic musicv fhe way they do in other types of music with attituides like this" This comment, and the following one where you responded to me criticising you leaping to defend women is something I feel strongly about. Leaping to defend a minority is very insulting. It implies that they need your help and actually insinuates that they are inferior. Something that a lot of black people complain about is "white liberals" jumping in to protect them (verbally), it suggests they are incapable of doing it themselves. I remember a thread about sexism where Jonesy admitted that he looked like a fool for leading the defense for women. It's one thing to support a minority, it's another to think it needs your leadership. "and the pummelling bjork gets ie _"she got where she is by sleeping with talented men" .. " Bjork is one of many female artists I have the utmost respect for and I really enjoy her music. "your taste is your taste your sexisim is your fucking problem - please don't spread it around" I resent being called a sexist. The point I made was that I felt in this instance positive discrimination had been applied. If you don't believe in positive discrimination you're quite ignorant. Whilst not a s common as "normal" discriminati |
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discrimination, it does exist. Saying that it doesn't is on par with saying there is no gender discrimination in legal practices. |
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once again you are talking - i 'm not implying women are inferior i'm saying when you the guy who says becaus he doesn't like music of electronic artists who are women states they are on a label cos they are women - it's the kimd of sexist assumption that they're not good enough without it ...total shit and an explicit example of sexisim - if anyone is suggestiing ingferiority it's you also you might notice there are no women on this site to answer your shit back - maybe it's cos half the avatars are sexy pin up girls i dunno i'm not offering women leadership at allnever once does it even sound like that ..that's an easy safe way to defend your self against any argument against you isn't it ??? i was just bemoaning the lack of women interested in this scene and reasoning that attitudes like yours could be to blame. anyway as you stated earlier you'r the feminist aroun d here....i'm saying you are silly because you assumed that both are present on the labels cos they are women a thing which reflects on the labels as ones that would both do this in order to have more women on thier labels - very foolish.. so you like bjork good for you - but the argument i quoted is one i've heard on this and other boards and it's similar to yours - when you stated that these women needed positive discrimination to get where they are others have stated bjork needs the help of collaborators toget where she is. but basically i'm bored of this now you are ignorant you admited it - now admit it was foolish to suggest that these women are on their respective labels because of their gender alone.. |
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I didn't admit to being ignorant- I said if what you said was true I would be ignorant, not stupid. I didn't just for this opinion without thinking. I really like both reflex and warp labels and the artists on them. Having heard about 90% of the artists on warp and about 70% on rephlex, I find it more than coincedence that in both cases the worst artist (IMO) on both labels also happens to be -the only- female. As I've said, there are a great deal of female artists I like and feel that they have been signed purely on musical merit, however these are (the only) two where I feel that they have been treated favourably because of their gender. I'm not saying there music is total crap and they would have been signed if they had no musical talent at all, just that they probably had it easier as a result of their gender. Positive discrimination does exist (just look at the grants offered to encourage women into engineering and architecture-why precisely do we specifically need female architects? Surely we should choose them on merit alone... As to the idea that women are put of by "sexist" attitudes such as these, I think it's actually quite sexist of you to think that women are weak enough to be detered by a few derogatory comments on MBs such as this. If someone wanted to really become an electronic musician they wouldn't be put off so easily. Your branding me as sexist smacks of the kind of fascistic leftism (yes, such a thing exists) that tries to deter people from forming there own opinions by using the words "sexist" or "racist". People are so afraid of being called them they will automatically step down when this accusation is levelled at them... I remeber a friend of my family finding great amusement in her stuffy new neighbours response to her accusing him of being rascist. When he moved in and told her he didn't like loud music (she hadn't played any). She said, "I'm an old lady, do you think I'll play music because I'm black?" The man blushed and was perfectly civil to her |
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afterwards. He had acted stupidly, but the point is that he was so afraid of being seen as a rascist that he dropped the argument. You're trying to do a similair thing by accusing me of sexism. I (and people who know me) know I am not and it matters very little to me what an anonymous stranger thinks. I'm fed up of this argument now and I will end by saying "I beg to differ". I hope you will not bear a grudge towards me in future over our disagreement, nor I to you. |
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Sticks and stones - I believe the saying goes! |
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I like "One on One" and "Prickle"...Sorry but don't care about the discussion,I just love the sweetness she puts on her own music,not djing...She usually Djs at Warp tours,but she had played her own music live and sounds very nice imo...She's kind of hypnotic/ethereal/ambient/experimental |
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