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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-09 23:35 [#00303630]
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Read this. In fact, watch the video. This is outrageous. you guys in america might have already seen this, but goddamit, i cant believe this shit goes on!
try the link and watch the video.
http://foxnews.com/story/0,2933,57214,00.html
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-09 23:36 [#00303632]
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this has nothing to do with aphex, i know, but holy shit, that disturbed me a little. (and i've seen battle royale!)
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-07-09 23:38 [#00303636]
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I saw that on the news last night, I hope that cop gets the beating of a f**king life time.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-09 23:44 [#00303655]
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i bet it blows over
since 9-11 cops are angels and do no wrong....
bullshit
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-07-09 23:47 [#00303660]
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I saw that on the news....it was terrible!
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mccabe
from fuck knows .......I`m lost !!! on 2002-07-09 23:49 [#00303663]
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it seems this shit happens too often over there,and the guy/kid was disabled.the coppers gonna get worse than just a beating me thinks
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-07-10 02:09 [#00303789]
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erm...two sides to every story.
I do think that the cop was out of order but it is very easy for the media to paint a one sided story...and I don't get the feeling this is another Rodney King...the police man was reacting in anger to something, not hitting the lad just because he was black.
I have been punched by a police officer...these things happen.
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-07-10 02:14 [#00303791]
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definetly two sides to that story. The cop who hit the man had just been assaulted by him when he tried to arrest him after he fled from a robbery... they painted the picture like this was an another inecent black man being brutallized by police.... not true
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-07-10 02:22 [#00303796]
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Once they had him pinned on the hood of the car there was no reason to punch him in the face. It doesnt matter what he had done to the cops before they got control of him. Imagine if he had shot one of the cops in the arm, would it be alright for the cops to pin him and shoot him in the arm AFTER getting him under control?
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-07-10 02:24 [#00303799]
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Yes, although the head might be better.
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-07-10 02:25 [#00303801]
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are you kidding?
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-07-10 02:26 [#00303802]
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yes, it was wrong and the officer diserves to be punished, what I said is it's not the hate crime they're making it out, it's not just cause he was black, humans are a speciez that tend to lose their tempers and comitte irrational acts when they're attacked/threatened, it wasn't just because he's black
Once again, I'm not condoning the cops actions, he was WRONG and DISERVES prober repremand, I'm just pointing out the incorrect picture the media is painting for people
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-07-10 02:28 [#00303806]
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yeah im just interested in the beating, not the guys race.
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-07-10 02:30 [#00303807]
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yep, unfortunatly thats not what mass media's interested in
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Deathsmith
from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-07-10 02:30 [#00303808]
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Taoist Blockade: what's the signifance of your avatar, might I ask?
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-07-10 02:32 [#00303810]
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Nah, I wasn't being serious. But I feel so sorry for this police officer. What he did was wrong, but he is only human...and you can't tell me that when you are hit you maintain your composure in every instance. This officer has been portraid as a racist which is, in all probability, not true. Imagine the effect this will have on his family...not to mention the fact his career is now over as whatever happens he will be made a scapegoat of the situation.
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-07-10 02:32 [#00303811]
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its cannabis in chinese. at least thats what it said on google where I got it from.
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-07-10 02:43 [#00303817]
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I agree its unfortunate that he's being portrayed as racist. Sure if someone jumped me I would fight back (and have) but a cop in a position of power CANT fly off the handle like that, human or no. In my eyes it is a blatant abuse of power and there is no doubt in my mind that he should be severely reprimanded.
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ecnadniarb
on 2002-07-10 02:45 [#00303818]
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I agree, but he will be sacked and stigmatised.
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Ctrl Alt Del
from Ft. Worth (United States) on 2002-07-10 02:57 [#00303826]
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ugh, saw that on the news, made my sides ache just thinking about it....
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2002-07-10 03:02 [#00303831]
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god... thats fuckin sick... I hope that cop goes down hard....
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Asche XL
on 2002-07-10 03:37 [#00303867]
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im a volunteer police officer in nyc, all i can say is shit happens...
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2002-07-10 04:20 [#00303885]
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shit happens?? police beat the fuck out of people and all you can say is shit happens....dont be blind by the fact that all cops are great--its bullshit
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-07-10 04:26 [#00303888]
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from my experience, military (federal) cops seem more rational than those in the city. of course, i've not been a cop before.
then again, military cops must operate on federal standards as civilian cops provide their own commission.
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Archrival
on 2002-07-10 07:20 [#00304096]
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"But I feel so sorry for this police officer. What he did was wrong, but he is only human...and you can't tell me that when you are hit you maintain your composure in every instance. This officer has
been portraid as a racist which is, in all probability, not
true. Imagine the effect this will have on his family...not
to mention the fact his career is now over as whatever happens he will be made a scapegoat of the situation."
OFCOURSE HE SHOULD BE FIRED!!!
I dont feel sorry for him, that was a bitch move, punching him in the face when he had handcuffs on!!! I bet he didnt dare to do that man to man...
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Archrival
on 2002-07-10 07:31 [#00304107]
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BEAUTIFUL LYRICS!!! Kinda like the Cop Killah Theme :) Lovin it :)
Artist: Ill Bill Song: How To Kill A Cop
* parody of Redman's "How to Roll a Blunt"
The year 2002 begins a new age for the cop killers, knowhatI'msayin?
Check it out, check it out
[Verse One] Check out this new Ill Bill gimmick that's splendid Since you're down with other shit,/ let's see if you're down wit this/ It's about strictly tryin to kill a cop/ Once you get the hang of it, after you blast one, you steal his glock/
First of all you need a fat bag of dust plus "the biscuit"/ Any local store sells the shit, friend, Purchase a milli', not that bitch Millie Jackson silly stunt/
I'm talkin about the nine millimeter gun/ Pick up the gat, scratch the serial numbers off/ No fingerprints, surgical ones are my gloves of choice/ All of these other cop killers be thinkin guns are toys/ And when these cats get caught, they snitch on all they boys/
I kill a cop on a solo mission; without a pair of gloves/ Shot him in the face with a stolen biscuit Then wiped my fingerprints off real careful If you don't think you ready yet dog, just let the song prepare you/
That's how you kill a cop (*repeat 6X*) Let's all kill a cop, and get locked up, what
That's how you kill a cop -- peace to Necro That's how you kill a cop -- peace to Necro That's how you kill a cop (*repeat 4X*) Let's all kill a cop, and get locked up
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Archrival
on 2002-07-10 07:32 [#00304109]
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[Verse Two] Yeahhhh! The second paragraph, might make you laugh/ When a cat try to kill a cop and catch a plunger in the ass/
That's when you know you got to take the gun from him/ cause you bout to get snubbed next, and you hyped up, so FUCK runnin/
And now the real fun begins son/ You kill these ten cops, the best part, you walk away with ten guns/
Now you the one that's takin gats from pigs/ Imagine one gang, consistin of the Bloods, Crips and Latin Kings/
That's when you start to realize what the police is/ Government funded gang-bangin thugs; that's what beast is/ They say I'm evil, when I'm the most righteous/ Run up in precincts with assault rifles/; kill police and throw bibles/
Walked out the precinct leavin no survivors/ Half his decapitated wig splattered across the precinct driveway/
The watts was stuffed up his body, jerk and gyrate/ Shoot him ten more times, then I merc off on the highway/
That's how you kill a cop (*repeat 6X*) Let's all kill a cop, and get locked up, what
That's how you kill a cop (*repeat 6X*) Let's all kill a cop, and get locked up
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Archrival
on 2002-07-10 07:33 [#00304111]
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[Verse Three] Yeahhhh! Last but not least, Ill Bill like to say peace to all the cop killers, from the Tri-State to the Middle East
And gimme some dust when I kick the bucket Pistol or no pistol, when high I'm the wrong to be fucked with
So everybody put they gun up in the air Cock it back and lick a shot like you just don't care SO - PUMP UP THE VOLUME!! Screamin out, "Fuck cops!" I'm out - peace to my pops, I'm off to the dust spots
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mccabe
from fuck knows .......I`m lost !!! on 2002-07-10 18:45 [#00304602]
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and now another police beating brought to you by the oklahoma police department.what a country...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-02-04 14:14 [#01060069]
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He he, the police just came to my Scout troop to give the kids a talk about drugs. I was shocked by not only their ignorance of even the most basic facts about even common drugs, but by the way they tried to get the kids to confess to having tried various drugs.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-02-04 14:19 [#01060072]
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ive been hit by the police, I called one a pig, while in custody, i was already on my way to jail, and they were making fun of the fact that i was going there, blah blah something about being a supposed rich kid, which couldnt have been so far from the truth at the time especially! but they pushed me down, i had handcuffs on and leg shackles, as you always do if your waiting to go from one place to another in custody these days, and I fell hit my head, and then one of them kicked me 2 times in the ribs. I didnt say a damn word, probably only would have made it worse.
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2004-02-04 14:19 [#01060073]
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oh my god youre right..... since 9/11, cops have robbed my house three times... and run over my cat, and then the cat i replaced him with..... of course the police wouldn't help me, so i went to the media..... they wouldn't talk to me, and since then, my tv and newspapers have stopped coming for some reason... and even the radio seems to be jammed.... im accessing the board from a seedy underground net cafe.... yes, this is the only sort of place i can live now, since.... 911
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2004-02-04 14:21 [#01060076]
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"they tried to get the kids to confess to having tried various drugs. "
LOL...... i can just imagine.... thats terrible
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-02-04 14:28 [#01060083]
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They started out by trying to engage the kids in a relaxed sort of way, joking around trying to get them to drop their guard. Without actually saying "don't worry, nothing you say here is admissible" they tried their damndest to give that impression. I bet they do these sort of talks so they can make a mental note of the faces to search when they're out on patrol...
They even eyed me (I'm a leader) with suspicion and said, "you know a lot about this..." when I pointed out that the popularity of pills in nightclubs was in part due to the ease of smuggling them in- you can fit 20 pills in your wallet no problem, try hiding 20 ready rolled joints on your person. Their knowledge of legislation was shocking too, I don't think they knew ghb had been made a class B drug and they didn't know the state of play with ketamine either (and confusing it with PCP judging by their description of people under the influence).
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2004-02-04 14:32 [#01060087]
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i first learned about magic mushrooms in my scout troop but it was a fellow scouter telling us about them, as part of getting his 'law' or 'law enforcement' (or somehting like that) badge
actually, he seemed way more knowledgable than a boyscout should be...
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-04 14:39 [#01060099]
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In my experience, cops are usually pretty fucking stupid/ignorant. They need to be dumb, so they'll do what they're told without question and so they'll see situations in black/white, and never the grey areas. It seems that most smart people have absolutely no desire to become cops, either. I agree it's terrible, but it shouldn't surprise you all that much.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-04 16:02 [#01060164]
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i try to avoid stereotyping groups (including the police) based on one or two bad experiences.
but i have to admit that i've seen more than a few incidents which damaged my faith in them.
the most terrifying one happened abroad though. i was in france with my girlfriend+a few of her friends for france's 'festivale de la musique', when the entire city is turned into a big party. every square has bands + djs performing.. the main square of lille had a huge stage put up. there was a band playing on every street corner.. buskers in every alleyway.. people with city centre flats were opening up their windows, pushing their speakers up to them & dj-ing out into the night.
needless to say there was a great party atmosphere. all kinds of people were there, all ages, all races - there was a really positive feel to it all. just wandering from street to street absorbing what was going on.
anyway.. by 1am most of the familys left + the official events were winding down. so we wandered out into a part of town with loads of bars. now, this part of town has a large arab population + notorious for being 'troubled' (for those of you who don't know, racism in france is fairly institutionalised.. i know, half my family lives there).. there was a big soundsystem in the street, everybody was drinking, dancing + having fun.
then a police car comes down the street. people get out of the way to let it through.
theyre rolling along fairly slowly but no ones giving them any hassle.
then the police car bumps into a parked car, smashing the headlight. quite a few people find this funny. the crowd starts laughing, and a few people point. no one threw anything. no one (that i saw) made any offensive gestures.
one officer, opens the door.. looks at the damage hes done.. no one does anything threatening. people near the car are just dancing. i was one of them. suddenly he dives back into the car, he must have used the cb-radio.. because within minutes, 15 squad cars (no word of a lie) turn up, and a van. nothing happens for
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-04 16:04 [#01060169]
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a short while.. the atmosphere changes, everyone gets a bit edgy. we're stood right by the first car to arrive + i decide it might be a good idea to get back a bit. then the first officer to arrive steps out, the doors of all the other cars open. he pulls out his baton + i assure you he was grinning. the the van doors slide open at the other end of the street + half a dozen officers with dogs jump out.
then there was panic in the crowd.. i felt physically sick as i saw them rush the street, charging up.. hitting anyone who wasnt quick enough to get out of the way.
i was right near the front, but managed to pull my girlfriend back behind me. they passed by me. one guy near me raised his hands above his head shouting 'please, i dont know whats going on' - they hit him once in the stomach. he went down. they hit him again, then ran on. one of our friends was running away and was struck in the back. girls were crying. everyone was in shock.
it was a peaceful crowd. it was horrible. they arrested no one. they just charged the street. shit everyone up a bit. trampled and beat a load of people + then drove off.
now, i know i cant vouch for the innocence of everyone in that crowd. maybe a couple of people further away from me were being a bit rough. maybe someone was smoking a spliff. maybe someone had jeered at one of the officers. maybe they'd had word of pickpockets operating. but did that really justify the action they took?
shit happens??! afterwards.. there was a guy stood alone in the street shouting after them: "who's going to protect us from you?"
this was an unacceptable abuse of power in my opinion. and if i hadnt had a bad feeling about what was going to happen when i saw the squad cars turn up, it could have been a lot worse for my friends and i.
i hope i never have to witness/be a part of something like that again.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-02-04 17:15 [#01060219]
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He probably didn't get to become a police officer by doing a lot of personal drug experimentation. These Cops probably actually believe all the rot they try to teach the kids.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-02-04 17:22 [#01060227]
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We used to skateboard in Red Square, a large bricked area at the University of Washington. It is illegal to skateboard there. ON one occasion, the cops showed up, surrounding the area, and all the skateboarders started to leave. One Skateboarder who was trying to leave the area rode near a cop. The officer tackled him off of his board. pinned him to the brick ground and hand-cuffed him, pressing a knee into his back and holding his face to the brick. when a friend asked "what are you doing to my friend?" the cop replied, "just move on, nothing for you to see here."
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-04 17:27 [#01060236]
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wow....this is a blast from the past. i couldnt even remember posting this!
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-04 17:30 [#01060238]
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are you pleased with how your thread has turned out?
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-04 17:31 [#01060243]
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yeah.....ususally my threads get about 2 fuckin replies, so yeah, i am....seems to have triggered some emotion. :D
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-02-04 17:33 [#01060244]
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FUK DA POLICE!
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-04 17:33 [#01060245]
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i am pleased for you.
like your avatar by the way. jake's face in that film is great..
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