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offline manicminer from Paris (France) on 2002-07-09 16:38 [#00303109]
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I have a laptop and the DJing software Traktor.

I want to use it to DJ live.

The thing is, to do this effectively, you need to be able to
"cue" tracks in the headphones, whilst the other "deck" is
playing through your PA. Traktor does this by putting one
"deck" through one stereo channel, and the other "deck"
through the other stereo channel.

I can't seem to get this to work. My laptop does claim to
have stereo sound, yet whenever I try to do this, I always
get some sound from both channels coming from each channel.

Has anyone had similar problems, and if so, how have you
solved them?

Jand, have you got any ideas?


 

offline chapman from United Kingdom on 2002-07-09 16:43 [#00303118]
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i found this exact same problem.... i think you have to have
2 soundcards to be able to use it properly, them you have
both channels in stereo anyway... it would be crap giving
out a mono mix


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2002-07-09 16:47 [#00303123]
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I think chapman is right...dunno if this will help
explain it better.


 

offline manicminer from Paris (France) on 2002-07-09 18:57 [#00303326]
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Jand?


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-07-09 19:25 [#00303362]
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yes, i have also heard that u need 2 sound cards for these
dj programs..... cus ur slowing it down and seeking and what
not.... and one sound card cant do that to several channels
at once


 

offline manicminer from Paris (France) on 2002-07-10 10:50 [#00304234]
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So there is no way I can do it without spending more money?

Bollocks.

I have no money.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-07-10 11:12 [#00304243]
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Jedi Chris was on about a new soundblaster thing that plugs
into laptop soundcards and gives the same functionality as a
soundblaster audigy platinum (I think it should have 2 line
outs)

I think there has to be a way around it as v. few laptops
have 2 soundcards built in or even space to fit a second
one.


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-10 11:13 [#00304245]
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Sorry, mate...

Haven't played with Traktor enough to say....but I would've
thought that was possible...

I'll have a check out when I get home if no-one else here
knows....


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-10 11:17 [#00304258]
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just been looking at google

"Tracktor Setup:

At the top of the interface is a red "setup" button. This
takes you to the sound setup and preference page.

The soundcard setup in Traktor is quite advanced. This is
because you need two separate outputs in order to beat mix
properly. When getting a track in time it is best to have
one track playing out through the master while the track you
are fiddling with only comes out of your headphones. This
makes it possible to compare the two tracks and make changes
to one so that the tempos can be matched before you start
the mix.

Traktor allows you to have separate outputs if you have two
souncards installed, a soundcard with two outputs (e.g.
Soundblaster Live!) or you can have each channel mono and
separate the channels from your regular stereo output.

I could beat mix with Traktor on my laptop with one output
using headphones. One ear would hear the master and one ear
would hear the cue channel.

If you understood all that you will now know that Traktor
can let you beat mix even if you only have a simple
soundcard like the ultra budget one in my aging laptop.

However, if you have a Soundblaster Live you will be able to
get the most out of this program. "...

will see if I can find more detail...



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-07-10 11:19 [#00304263]
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Cool, thanks Jand. I will have to get traktor when I inherit
a laptop this sept. :)


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-10 11:21 [#00304265]
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A bit more...

"setting up traktor

Load up Tractor. I've put labels on the diagram, so you'll
know what I'm referring to. Before you start press setup to
enable the appropriate outputs. Click on the audio tab. If
you have one soundcard, press "Master & Mono 2 x Mono". This
will output your master signal to one channel and your
monitor signal to one channel. Unfortunately, this means
your mix with be in mono. The monitor output is what you wil
hear on your headphones, basically it will sound out of sync
at first, but as you move the pitch sliders etc. it should
eventually sound in sync. Your audience will hear the master
output, which should be totally sync. If you have two
soundcards click "Master & Monitor 2 x stereo" under two
sounddevices, then assign one soundcard as the monitor and
one the master output. Generally try to make your best
soundcard the master. If you have a 3D soundcard with front
and rear outputs click "Master & Monitor 2 x stereo under
Quad speaker. It will output the monitor to the rear output
and the master to the front output."...



 

offline manicminer from Paris (France) on 2002-07-10 11:27 [#00304271]
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Thanks Jand - that's great. I'll give it a try tonight.


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-10 12:18 [#00304313]
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I'm sure there is something in the on-line help as well....

Good luck, anyway...from what I hear it's a very cool prog,
once you get used to it...


 

offline manicminer from Paris (France) on 2002-07-10 14:23 [#00304405]
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Jand, I went home at lunchtime to give it a go!

I followed the instructions you gave and it seems to work
now.

Cheers mate, you're an absolute diamond!

Hey, you remember a while ago you said you would be
interested in remixing my track "Jeff"
(http://www.yorklabs.co.uk/manicminer) - still up for it?



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-07-10 14:42 [#00304418]
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My remix of Dark went a bit wrong, I'm going to do it again
:)


 

offline manicminer from Paris (France) on 2002-07-10 14:43 [#00304421]
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OK - cheers Ceri!


 


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