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Jungle Drum n bass Drill n bass how are they different from each other? they all seem to be the same to me..... |
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You ignorant thing, I refuse to have anything to do with you. Jungle: listen to Shy FX Drum 'n' bass: listen to LTJ Mukem Drill 'n' bass: listen to Venetian Snares. They all have same roots (in house/ ragga/ techno/ dub) but have evolved slightly differently. They are microgenres inside a big genre. |
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Hahahaha, LTJ Mukem I meant LTJ Bukem |
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the most known drum and bass is more that 2 step beat, this "bom - - tak, bom - tak-bom-bom... for me, the most jungle has this typical amen beat in various versions, breaks, and tambourine in the back ground (tackh tackh tackh tackh tackh) hm drill 'n' bass is hard to define for me, aphex's brrrs-basses are typical for drill'n'bass for me... |
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They're spelt different.... ;) |
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meho- thats not very nice. i was explanations, not examples- ive never heard any of those people and i dont intent to just to see what those genres are like. map- thanks but im not sure what those technical temrs mean.... what is squarepusher classed as? |
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this isnt set in stone... but the way i see it is : jungle: the lightest form breakbeat... relaxed for the most part dnb: slighty heavier and darker and more complex drillnbass: insane all over the place those are generalizations... but yeah |
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squarepusher makes the most characteristic experimental jungle mixed with dub and jazz, my opinion |
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Hey Bob: i was kidding, well, you should know me by now. Forget what Zeus said: he's wrong. Jungle is early breakbeat stuff and is pretty much energetic and dynamic. It's not "light" at all. In fact, it might be very heavy, depending on the artist. Later, jungle was called drum 'n' bass, and got divided into various subdivisions: 'ardkore intelligent d'n'b (Bukem), Techstep (or hardstep), later two-step etc. Drill 'n' bass is essentially what squarepusher made and is what mostly white boys make in their bedrooms without having clubs in their mind. |
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oops, another typo: ardkore and intelligent are two different strands. |
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They all have same roots (in house/ ragga/ techno/ dub) NO. Hip hop is the roots to jungle and break beats/ dnb whatever.. |
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Oh, damn, I forgot to enlist Hip-Hop, you're right, thanks for pointing that out archie. |
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alrighty thanks guys.... one more thing before i explode- shouldnt it be called 'drill n drum'? |
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no, drug 'n' drunk 'n' bass |
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venetian snares calls it drugs 'n' bass. Well, obviously, drill'n' bass is a pun on drum 'n' bass as it is not a "legitimate" genre (it has no social/ cultural impact that Drum n'n bass/ jungle has), so go figure. Call it |
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what you want. |
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yes sir, mr meho krickit |
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Dismissed. |
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sooooooo... the classic tune 'super sharp shooter' would be classed as jungle, no? |
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The difference is the media...They try to attatch labels to everything. When Jungle first appeared there was a rash of releases such as "Jungle Mania" containing a lot breakbeat pop tracks. The real artists never liked the image and so the name drum and bass started to be used. Then the media tried to split it again into Tech Step and Intelligent Drum and Bass etc. eventually it lost commercial popularity and went back underground...everyone a little wiser. The first time I remember hearing the term drill and bass was in a squarepusher interview. |
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Bob: Uh? I dunno, I only listen to metal, remember? ecnadniarb: word. |
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by dj hype and the ganja cru i think.... |
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AMG says: Jungle/Drum 'N Bass Based almost entirely in England, Jungle (also known as drum'n'bass) is a permutation of hardcore techno that emerged in the early '90s. Jungle is the most rhythmically complex of all forms of techno, relying on extremely fast polyrhythms and breakbeats. Usually, it's entirely instrumental — it is among the hardest of all hardcore techno, consisting of nothing but fast drum machines and deep bass. As its name implies, jungle does have more overt reggae, dub, and R&B influences than most hardcore — and that is why some critics claimed that the music was the sound of black techno musicians and DJs reclaiming it from the white musicians and DJs who dominated the hardcore scene. Nevertheless, jungle never slows down to develop a groove — it just speeds along. Like most techno genres, jungle is primarily a singles genre designed for a small, dedicated audience, although the crossover success of Goldie and his 1995 debut Timeless suggested a broader appeal and more musical possibilities than other forms of techno. Dozens of respected artists followed in their wake, fusing breakbeats with influences lifted from jazz, film music, ambient, and trip-hop. Drill'n'bass Soon after album-based British techno producers like Aphex Twin and Squarepusher got their hands on drum'n'bass during the mid-'90s, they naturally twisted it to their own ends. The result was Drill'n'bass, a spastic form of breakbeat jungle that relied on powerful audio software and patient programming to warp old midtempo beats and breaks into a frenzied, experimental potpourri of low-attention-span electronic music. Beginning in mid-1995, three figures led the charge with pioneering EPs: Aphex Twin (Hangable Auto Bulb), Luke Vibert's Plug project (Plug 1), and Squarepusher (Conumber). The following year, drill'n'bass went overground with full-length releases by each of the above, most notably Plug's Drum'n'bass for Papa and Squarepusher's debut album Feed Me Weird Things. |
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Soon the rush was on, and a group of artists emerged with immediately identifiable ties to drill'n'bass, including Animals on Wheels, Amon Tobin, Mung, and Plasmalamp. Drill'n'bass receded into the deep underground by 1998, an unsurprising event given the style's extreme nature. |
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conumber? ive never heard that mentioned anywhere.... acording to that site, jungle and dnb are the same thing :S |
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conumber is the 8th track in burningn'n tree... |
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What's AMG? Because the drum and bass description actually annoyed me. Drum and Bass started as a British thing, it has absolutely nothing to do with colour. In fact it was probably the first form of music in a "long" time that was neither black or white but just music. It pisses me off to see shit like that. lol...rant over anyway. |
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LTJ NUKEM hehe |
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..but it didn't say directly that it was "black" or "white" music, it said that some critics and DJs said that, no? |
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I remember reading one of the guys from Shut Up and Dance saying that 'jungle' was a racist term and he'd punch anyone he heard use it. Hmmm. |
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Yo, Nigga, your e-mails came in all screwed up. Can't you do any better than that? |
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I just sent another one. I don't know why it didn't work. What happened to my avatar? |
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I just could use the one with pics. Everyone's avatars got deleted in an accident involving goats, lubricants and mdma. read the closed topic at the top of the MB |
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