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akademi
on 2002-07-09 00:45 [#00302098]
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i really love the unstructred stuff such as the begining of windowlicker and the second song off the windowlicker single which has some weird name. does anybody know which is the best album for stuff like that? or any other artists who do that kinda stuff?
i know this message will sound pretty gay for u die-hard aphex fans but hey i need knowledge
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2002-07-09 00:47 [#00302100]
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aphexpert: that's clever. i'm not really sure. it kind of reminds me of some of the stuff on druqks, though.
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lctroboy
from Borås (Sweden) on 2002-07-09 00:47 [#00302101]
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well.... it really does sound as if you need a dose of Autechre, especially their Confield-album.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2002-07-09 00:48 [#00302102]
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yeah, listen to ictroboy, i'm full of shit
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akademi
on 2002-07-09 00:50 [#00302104]
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i have druqs, come to daddy and aphex classics plus the windowlicker single.............i like them all but i really love the unstructered sounds in them 2 particualr songs. it's what first got me into aphex. are there older albums full of stuff like that or other artists that do similar stuff?
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akademi
on 2002-07-09 00:52 [#00302105]
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actually i have confield, but find it quite repetitive
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lctroboy
from Borås (Sweden) on 2002-07-09 00:52 [#00302106]
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AND, you also should look into Brothomstates. They are a bit "cleaner" than auetechre, but have this really diffuse/unstable beats and i really love them alot...
Yeah.
Autechre - Confield Autechre - ep7 Brothomstates - Claro
Happy hunting m8
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lctroboy
from Borås (Sweden) on 2002-07-09 00:52 [#00302107]
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Oh i see. ok. sorry =(
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akademi
on 2002-07-09 00:54 [#00302108]
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ever heard of global goon? i dont know anything about them but i just a good reveiw in creative review
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lctroboy
from Borås (Sweden) on 2002-07-09 00:56 [#00302111]
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yeah i heard. never heard though, just a couple of short clips. =////
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2002-07-09 01:00 [#00302113]
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try to download the song 'perc#6', it's on a compilation called "or some computer music" it's by aphex twin and maybe closer to what you seek than confield (wich i find a bit too repetitive too, but only certain songs, the rest is genius)
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2002-07-09 01:00 [#00302114]
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i remember that global goon guy when he was on this mb. he was a lame
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2002-07-09 01:03 [#00302118]
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GG is incredible, but sounds nothing like aphex or autechre well maybe old aphex like saw85-92 mixed with melodies from mars :-)
it's one of my personal favourite composer in electronic music, there's something really special about his music, you must check it out :-D
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-09 01:16 [#00302135]
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try some of these
Mike Dred/Peter Green- Virtual Farmer Richard Devine-Lipswitch Venetian Snare-Songs about my cat
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OK
on 2002-07-09 01:58 [#00302172]
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go plastic it's the way to go
don't touch autechre... that thing sucks
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-09 01:59 [#00302174]
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hmm..go plastic has some of those momnets..but for what akademi is after..Confield IS a very good
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-09 02:00 [#00302176]
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oops okay he doesnt like Confield..my bad
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-09 06:05 [#00302452]
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You used the word "unstructured" to summarize the element that you seek in music. It's hard to pinpoint logically let alone with words exactly what makes something sound good maybe. It might even be that these tracks have a grander more realized thought out structure than a lack of one. Windowlicker is actually pretty... linear, the sound units are spaced evenly in a "normal" beat, but there are times that an extra sound unit is added to expand the pattern etc. It's the rich sound quality that mostly attracts me to that track. The equation track is just mad. Anyway, I like these two tracks relatively higher than simpler structured stuff like analogue bubblebath etc too. So maybe try albums I also like:
crunch "1" autechre "lp5" otto von schirach "8000 bc" (actually try this one first since it's structure is quite abnormal and complex/intricate/grand)
My music is at www.mp3.com/artificialselection Tracks like "a fractal brewing of fraggles" are structured weird.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-09 06:12 [#00302458]
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i wouldnt call the begginin of Windowlicker unstructered at all...
and how long of the begginin of equation? that first 5 secs... or longer?
w M w... nice self plug there... :)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-09 06:13 [#00302459]
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oh
check out gescom - mini disk... thats about as unstructered as possible
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-09 06:32 [#00302477]
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Perhaps "non-repetitious" is what you're really looking for? Well I plugged my site since I've also been interested in non repetitious music. I don't know why people are so concerned about communicating their music to others anyway... it's not like there's any potential monetary profit anymore, especially not to account for all the pointless spamming that goes on in the mp3.com messageboard. I guess it's just sharing something that one finds interesting to others with similar interests. Same reason people make books and share their ideas.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-09 06:35 [#00302479]
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i was just kidding with you man
i plug my stuff too. i like to hear peoples thoughts, who are actually into the same music i listen to... (dont know many people in real life who like IDM)
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-09 06:37 [#00302482]
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Ambient music is relatively less structured probably since it has no rhythm of sound bursts like drums. White noise is unpredictable all the time, but the average median (mean median mode, one of those anyway I think) results in interpreting it as boring noise.
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VampireAngel
from San Juan (Cuntland) (Puerto Rico) on 2002-07-09 06:40 [#00302484]
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Zeus,isn't Gescom minidisk part music part samples??? Just a question because I heard lots of fuzzz last year on that specific release?????
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-09 06:41 [#00302488]
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i dont know... i could never continuously listen to it... i have it on mp3... and ill try... but its just so random its hard.
id say a majority of the tracks are 1 min or less...
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-09 06:42 [#00302489]
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what medium was it actually released on> anyone know?
was it a cd or somethin? or just mp3?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-09 06:44 [#00302492]
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im listening to it now...
or trying to...
even the long tracks are very random... cant feel a beat or anything... just lots of wierd noises...
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-07-09 06:49 [#00302494]
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it was released on minidisc...and is made up of a tone of really short sample/songs..because it was meant to be listened to in shuffle...that way every time you listened to it, it would be different
akademi...get aphex's richard d james album..its mostly non-repetive beats..in a similar style to the equation track...but more melodic
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VampireAngel
from San Juan (Cuntland) (Puerto Rico) on 2002-07-09 06:49 [#00302495]
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Hmmm,damn Zeus,I think you just cinvinced me on buying the Gescom thing,I love noise too....And yes man,this was just originaly released on minidisk,and it was limited.......And thanx a lot for describing me how it sounds......=)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-09 06:50 [#00302497]
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well... they arent all that short... some are longer...
it was actually released on minidisk? officially? ive never heard of an official release on minidisc... is it through warp?
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VampireAngel
from San Juan (Cuntland) (Puerto Rico) on 2002-07-09 06:51 [#00302498]
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And thanx to you too Wayout....=) For the whole description..........
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-09 06:52 [#00302500]
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I've still never heard this gescom release, sounds like a great shuffle concept.. are the tracks not simpler in structure relative to lp5, more like incunabula (I love the track bike though)
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-07-09 06:53 [#00302502]
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it was indeed released on minidisc ...on skam records...but is available at the warpmart
no prob, vampire
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-09 06:55 [#00302507]
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ok, im listening now (with my mp3 player on random :) )
i actually am digging this.
you just gotta be in the mood (i was listening to confield before i put this on :)
is gescom the first to release an album on minidisc?
gescom is autechre right? or one of them or something?
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-07-09 06:57 [#00302510]
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gescom= autechre+friends
and yeah..i think the gescom minidisc was actually the first offical minidisc release
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-09 06:59 [#00302514]
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im on warp right now... cant find a trace of gescom
not in warp mart, nor artists...?!?!
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-07-09 07:03 [#00302517]
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yeah...it looks to be out of stock at the moment
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-09 08:29 [#00302570]
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wMw's music deserves to be heard..and he doesnt do it that often...if at all...
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-09 10:12 [#00302646]
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again... i was just kidding around with him
it was jsut kinda funny how he listed 3 big artists, and then ended with himself.
i wasnt saying it was wrong... i just thought it was funny.
again, i plug myself all the time.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2002-07-09 10:20 [#00302654]
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akademi- ignore everyone else here (sorry ;) u should get Jamie lidell- Muddlin gear....its idm/noise....i hate repetitiveness (thats why i hate autechre, its All repetetive) but muddlin gear is great, keeps changing all along, and he doesnt resort to dril n bass when he runs out of ideas, unlike so many artists....
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