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Merzbow vs. Venetian Snares
 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-08 07:56 [#00301146]
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Who's more hardkore?


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-08 07:57 [#00301147]
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I think Venetian snares is...but Merzbow is more serious.


 

offline SwitchFrontside on 2002-07-08 07:58 [#00301148]
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Venerian (s/k) snares ......... kill kill kill.........


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-08 07:59 [#00301149]
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lol


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-08 07:59 [#00301150]
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"canada has no death penalty"


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-07-08 08:00 [#00301151]
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hehehehe ;-)


 

offline MrTenzin from The Concrete Jungle (United States) on 2002-07-08 08:00 [#00301153]
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ive seen both live and ive met Venetian... i say Venetian
is! eheh

btw what does sk mean i always see my hardcore friends use
that??@?


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-08 08:01 [#00301154]
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BASH BASH BASH BASH "yerg yerg yerg" BASH BAS BASH "yerg
yer..." BASH BASH BASH BASH BASH BASH BASH "yerg yerg"


 

offline MrTenzin from The Concrete Jungle (United States) on 2002-07-08 08:03 [#00301156]
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venetian threw a beer bottle at some guy infront me at the
show, it was fun :D


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-08 08:03 [#00301157]
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"YOU GOT A HOLE IN YOUR STOMACH YOU PLUG IT UP WITH A CORK!"


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-08 08:04 [#00301158]
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LOL he did?? why?


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-08 08:04 [#00301159]
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"IM JUST WAITING TO GET YOU RIGHT INSIDE MY MOUTH"


 

offline MrTenzin from The Concrete Jungle (United States) on 2002-07-08 08:06 [#00301161]
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cuz some guy was being an ass and venetian is just nutso...
beer in the air fists flying, hot hardcore women around me
twas only fitting beer be thrown at someones face


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-08 08:07 [#00301162]
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thats crazy man.


 

offline SwitchFrontside on 2002-07-08 08:52 [#00301183]
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deadmn dj... *snare rush with funny base


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-08 09:05 [#00301196]
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hmm..not a valid comparison..Mezrbow are abstract,
formless..(and just a bit too boring)..they should be
compared with something like..Whitehouse...or Boyd Rice...

hows about V.Snares Vs Bogdan?


 

offline SwitchFrontside on 2002-07-08 09:07 [#00301198]
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Bogdan is nothing like V.s !


 

offline MrTenzin from The Concrete Jungle (United States) on 2002-07-08 09:10 [#00301201]
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switch what does SK stand for... and IMHO or IMO you peopel
on this board always use it anyone care to fill me in?

SK
IMO or IMHO



 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-08 09:14 [#00301206]
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drill'n'bass mate...try the first two albums.. bombs over
Ibiza or Ice Climber and then comeback and report


 

offline Meho Krljic from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-07-08 09:28 [#00301224]
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IMO = In My Opinion
IMHO = In My Humble Opinion

Merzbow is incomparable. I like VSnares too. But Merzbow has
many more faces.


 

offline thethirdball from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2002-07-08 14:33 [#00301471]
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No one can compare to VS. He's making some of the best
music around these days and as one of my friends said to me
"I'm sure Squarepusher is shitting his pants."


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-08 22:42 [#00301987]
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Re: Squarepushers bowel indiscrections...
nah not really..Tom's a far more accomplished muso....


 

offline Smyrma from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2002-07-08 23:24 [#00302014]
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Vsnares are more interesting than Merzbow, IMO

But I guess I just don't "get" noise


 

offline thethirdball from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2002-07-08 23:30 [#00302021]
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Oh flea Squarepusher may be a technically more accomplished
musician but he's never produced an album as good as
DollDollDoll. Even on an individual track basis []pusher
can't touch VSnares. No []pusher track is as good as Make
Ronnie Rocket, Punk Kids and about 8 others I dont' have
time to mention.

It's no contest anymore, I was skeptical now I believe the
following comparison to be true:

VSnares > []pusher


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-08 23:48 [#00302041]
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I thought Dolls Dolls Dolls kinda sucked actually..every
squarepusher release is better than that one...

Songs about my cats..on the other hand I admit..VSNares
production and warped engineering is somewhat superior to
SP..
but when it comes to songs there's no contest..Tom
Jenkinson's a far better song writer...

Funk does some totally brain rattling and twisted Knob
Twidling and he's brilliant at it...and I like it
tremendously..but when he tries to do songs...(as on the
GLue Funk)...he just doesnt really grab my attention like
Toms compositions....
personal tastes I guess


 

offline thethirdball from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2002-07-08 23:52 [#00302049]
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Yessir,

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.



 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-07-08 23:55 [#00302053]
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Havent heard much VS but I like MerZbow alot got a few of
his CDS.


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-08 23:56 [#00302054]
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agreed..
I mean disagreed..

I am lost...

okay we agree that we disagree..:)


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-07-09 01:16 [#00302133]
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merzbow is more hardcore than snares anyday...snares has way
to many releases that side on the IDM spectrum of his
talents. There's only a few of his stuff that's really
hardcore (making orange things, prinf (not to sure about
this one, havent' listened to it in forever), and music
about my cats). Also, Snares' is structured...you can't get
more hardcore than purely random distorted chaos schreeching
and swirling thoughout your speakers.

I bet everyone who's contributed to this argument can listen
to Snares with minimal disconfort...but put on some merzbow
cd's back to back...u'd easly wish it was snares...simply,
not as pleaseing (to many) as snares...


 

offline Ctrl Alt Del from Ft. Worth (United States) on 2002-07-09 02:30 [#00302223]
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"Do you see what happens when you fuck a stranger in the
ass?!?!?!?!?!"

NO ONE is more cardhore than snares. NO ONE!!


 

offline MrTenzin from The Concrete Jungle (United States) on 2002-07-09 03:59 [#00302285]
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Merzbow actually does use patterns actually very simple 4/4
and 8/8 patterns if u listen carefuly u will hear it


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-07-09 04:53 [#00302366]
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only in his newer stuff. i'm refering to pulse demon era.
the analog shit from the ealry 2000, and 90's


 

offline MrTenzin from The Concrete Jungle (United States) on 2002-07-09 05:23 [#00302407]
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jah the analogy stuff was more free form.


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-07-09 07:13 [#00302524]
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i dunno...i personally think these ____vs____ threads are
kinda dumb...

but having said that ...merzbow has a good 20 years on
snares..plus, he's made soundtracks to japanese snuff
films...thats rather hardcore...
venetian snares' stuff is pretty harsh...but merzbow is
downright brutal


 

offline VampireAngel from San Juan (Cuntland) (Puerto Rico) on 2002-07-09 07:27 [#00302537]
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Nanotech,good explanation on distinguishing both
projects.....Agreed 500% with you on how Merzbow is more
hardcore than VenetianSnares....Even though VS does lots of
tweaking in their live performances,it's a little
structured......But Merzbow,I like him but can listen to
just one cd per week,it's way to weird/noise,but like it
still.......=)


 

offline MrTenzin from The Concrete Jungle (United States) on 2002-07-09 07:36 [#00302548]
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im glad so many people like merzbow now... seemed a few
months back there was like only 2 including me :(.... :D


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-09 08:18 [#00302567]
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I dont dislike em..I just tend to get a bit bored..I prefer
Boredoms..:)


 


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