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what do you guys think of me buying a 933 power mac g4 with 7300rpm second drive and pro-tools digi 001?????? do you think that this is money well spent? i do have a lot of friends with macs so cracked software isnt a problem! anyway what do you guys think pc / mac whats the difference i hope to have both systems eventualy, also whats the average lifespan of a mac or pc? |
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mac is damn elite. go for it! they truly are sweet. that's what i say. beautiful stuff. |
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if it's gonna be used for all work and no play then u should go for it. |
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I've alway's used Mac's and love 'em to death, a G4 would be awesome! |
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Macs carry a premium I'm not sure is warrented. For the same price as a basic Mac you could have an ass-kicking PC. It's getting more and more difficult to justify getting a Mac IMO, unless you're a Logic user, heh. |
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you obviously have no idea what you are talking about... MAC IS THE WAY TO GO |
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Macs run twice as fast as PCs at equal Mhz but are also twice as expensive so they're equal. Both have great programs and are more than suitable for audiotasks. |
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pcs crash like 0923450723 times more then MACs |
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No, only when you use a Win95/98 kernel OS... I've run my PC for a year now without crashing(Win2000) |
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Hahaha! We're not dealing with P75s running WinME anymore. My PC gets left one more or less 24/7 amd hasn't crashed for as long as I can remember. I'm not trying to start a Mac vs PC flame war for fucks sake. I'm trying to say I don't think the Mac vs PC debate is quite as cut and dry as it's been in the past. So what if Macs can surpass a PC's performance at equal clock speeds. I'll have a PC with a 2.5GHz processor please... Mac's are very expensive. If you've got the money, sure - go ahead and buy yourself a fancy looking computer. |
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Get a PC, if you set it up right and know what youre doing it will crash LESS than a mac. I had a G4 733 and while it was pretty it just didnt have enough juice to run a lot of plugins and softsynths at once. If youre using any VSTis, and effects, definitely get a pc. |
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now im running an athlon XP2000 and songs in cubase that were eating %80 of the CPU never cross %10 on the athlon. I sold the mac to buy the athlon a year after I bought it, never looked back. |
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So Taoist,you too suggest a Pc???? I am thinking of buying a laptop by december,but not so sure if I should get a laptop pc or a powerbook??? And yes,I will be running lots of music making programs,not to mention sequencers,like Reason2...... Any suggestions my phriends???? |
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If youre getting a desktop get a PC. If you're getting a laptop its a harder descision, you cant really go wrong with mac laptops, but if you do your research properly you can probably get more for your dollar on a PC. |
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That is right man,for what I will pay for a nice powerbook can find a nice laptop plus all of the software that I really need for less..By that time I should have done an extensive research,but thanx,really appreciate the time taken for answering.....=) |
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i hear mcas are great for audio & video editing |
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MACs* |
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what software are you going to be using exactly? For example reaktor for mac is utter shite, while for PC it is out of this world. I couldnt understand what all the fuss was about reaktor while I had it on my mac, now on my PC I hardly touch any other softsynths. |
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How so, Tao? |
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Mostly will be ACID,for music editing and programming,plus editing some loops,Reason v2,mostly for sampling and sequencing plus some programming too and for practicing my virtual djing,Traktor......That is it for now plus other programs for easy music making matters or some basic rythms,maybe FruityLoops,dont know yet......=) |
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you can only open one instance as a VSTi, which isnt even fully integrated, you have to have the standalone reaktor open in the background. Using it as an effect within cubase is extremely flakey and prone to crashing the computer. Theres just generally a feel of shakyness to the whole thing, I was always worried it would collapse. Now on PC I dont even think twice about having 4 instances open and using effects all the time. Its never crashed once on me sincee ive been on PC. |
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macs are better. thats all there is too it. when microsoft has a commercial with some one as ultimately cool as george clinton in it, maybe i'll reconsider |
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"imma drop a funk bomb on you" |
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plus: "all work and no play", snes9x for the mac is probably the most beautiful looking emulator i've seen. |
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Not a lot actually - I despise Apple computers! Sorry! |
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I had no idea Reaktor was so crappy on Mac. So you bought Reaktor for Mac and PC, or does it come on both formats on one CD? Wasn't Mac Reaktor a couple of versions behind PC too? |
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People always cite design programs as the reason to get a mac. As far as I know they don't have Autocad or Painter on them. And all the good CGI software is Sun/PC format. All the good mac stuff is ported to pc anyway, plus you can upgrade PCs a lot more easily and do far more with them. PCs are far better for games and compatibility. In my experience, mac users (aside from programmers) seem to be: girls/non technical bods/hippies. |
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I program on my PC but to be honest for everyday tasks the Mac just performs better. Mac have always had the advantage that they design the HArd and software. |
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I know, but it's like Nintendo/Sony, Would you rather a few really outstanding titles or loads of good ones from 3rd parties. |
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I have noticed recently that there is alot of mac envy where I work after OSX came out. All the nerds are giving it props. I went to a seminar all about it and all the UNIX guys where *almost* won over. Only time will tell there. For me computers should be usable with very little practice. Macs are just that. I like my PC for programming and the like but OSX now offers JAva and C IDEs as standard so I soon might ditch the old PC. PCs are ugly as fuck to boot. |
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Cheap trick to win over PC fans- porting unix and putting a girly gui over the top :) |
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fucking expensive trick! One day you will love that 'girly' interface! MArk my words. I used to love PC until I got a job that demnded I use a Mac. Now I have seen the error of my ways. You are right about the price but when someone else is paying who cares. And as the maxim goes 'you get what you pay for'. |
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I admit macs are good, but not for what I do on computers. |
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I think you have hit the nail on the head. I have been debating about what computer to buy for myself. And I have decided to get a Mac and run virtual PC on it. Unfortunately there isn't the opposite of this for a PC. For programmign etc I will use the PC and for everyday tasks the MAc will happily be my companion. |
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My friend did an art degree and surfed the net. He never played games or programmed etc. for him a mac was ideal. |
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"you can upgrade PCs a lot more easily" about a month ago, my dad upgraded the ram to a gig. if he can do that, anyone can. him and his friend also put in an internal second hard drive... oh, and for the emulator thing i was talking about: |
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lauty flinks |
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cheers folks for all your input, my main reason for buying the mac is that ive spent two years at college using pro tools and i realy want to have a system that im familiar with and as far as ive been told the mac runs pro tools realy well? |
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indeed faulty links! |
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What if one seeks a computer that will be fully dedicated to music making? Which system is best? Do Aphex Twin and Squarepusher use Mac or PC. Do they use Pro Tools? |
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http://www.geocities.com/nigelhatesyou/bad.jpg thats the original snes http://www.geocities.com/nigelhatesyou/good.jpg thats the mac snes9x... i don't know why it didn't work... |
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I just bought the powerbook G4 800 and I'ts a fucking amazing machine, no PC laptop (in that weight class 5.4 pounds) comes even close to its power. It's just great. If you're interested in buying a notebook check out the thread I made before I bought my mac: |
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so Xanatos do you think i made the right decision? |
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Absolutely, I've had it for 6 days and I'm really happy about it. Here's the thing, I think that its about equal in power to like the 2.0+ gigs p4 notebooks. But those things with the combo drive (CDRW+DVD) included are 8+ pounds 2.5 inches. The Powerbook is 5.4 pounds, 1 inch, with the same sized screen. I have a feeling in 6 months or so they will have 5 pound pc notebooks capable of the 800mhz powerbook. But that's a way off. Plus macs are just beautiful. I'm learning to love the OS (I don't like it as much as windows yet, probably because I'm not used to it.) Warcraft III runs beautifully on it, and everything just works. I plugged in my digital video camera, beep! it works. No drivers, no b.s. Basically its a self contained world, what you are sacraficing is third party software, but in that self contained world, mac assumes they have or make everything you need, but so far...they're right. |
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My only real complaint at this point is file sharing, limewire is sucking and I don't really have any good connections for the third party software. If you are in the know though, I'm sure you can overcome that, I'm sure I will soon. Its annoying though, not to even have adobe photoshop yet. |
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CHEERS DUDE! |
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Sorry I can't help you with the electronic music production aspect, I haven't even begun that yet, ask me again in a few months when I have my setup set up. |
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And if you get the G4 tower, shell out the extra $700 for the dual 1 gig processor! I've heard universally that its worth it (plus you get 20 extra gigs of HD, and more importantly double the ram). |
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i was going to get a mac just because of final cut pro but the pc just got Avid Xpress and that shit rocks final cut pro so im going to stick to my pc! :) |
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i hear adobe premier is pretty bad ass. i've got a bunch of video editing shit on my computer, but no camera! |
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