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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-04 01:45 [#00295888]
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discuss.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-04 01:46 [#00295890]
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what?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-04 01:48 [#00295892]
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if you persue something you're interested in with passion and intelligence that makes you a "nerd" by outsider definition, agree or disagree
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-04 01:49 [#00295893]
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i disagree
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lctroboy
from Borås (Sweden) on 2002-07-04 01:51 [#00295894]
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disagree!
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Deathsmith
from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-07-04 01:51 [#00295896]
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Agree. . . definitely.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-04 01:52 [#00295898]
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thats really a crap statement.
if anything, its a commendable trait... to know that someone loves what they do, and they are dedicated
i love music i go to music school no one ive ever told this to has called me a dork... they thought it was cool
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Deathsmith
from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-07-04 01:53 [#00295899]
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Hey how come my avatar isn't reloaded even after I loaded it?
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Deathsmith
from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-07-04 01:54 [#00295903]
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Hmm then the people in your school are very mature, Zeus. Because, I'm homeschooled, intelligent enough, and very passionate about music. Most people like me when they get to know me, but alot of people in my town that don't even know me hate me. . .
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-04 01:55 [#00295905]
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i dont give a shit what other people think about me. i've got worse stuff to worry about than that.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-04 01:58 [#00295907]
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i didn't say it wasn't commendable, in fact "nerds" by the definition in the topic are my favorite people. what i'm saying is, "normal people" (you know, the people who lack passion and/or intelligence for something or perhaps anything) are intimidated by people like that, hence the judgemental branding of "nerd" (whether pretending to be kidding or acting completely serious). it is an immature move on their part, and i think it's very prevalent in society.
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Deathsmith
from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-07-04 01:58 [#00295908]
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I think overall the Intelligence + Passion= Nerdiness formula is profoundly true. Think of all the real nerds, the stereotypical nerds, especially the ones in movies and such! The formal outcasts. Aside from looking like nerds, they are usually portrayed as being very intelligent, very passionate about one technically "uncool" thing or another, and are therefore unnacceptable to their peers.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-07-04 02:00 [#00295909]
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''Nerd'' can be defined in different ways by different people... if listening to ''difficult'' music and spending a lot of time on the computer and not whoring out my individualism to be ''cool'' makes me a nerd, so be it. I like it like that.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-04 02:00 [#00295910]
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no, its not my school... my whole school is a music school
people i meet that go other places
no one has thought it was dorky... they get really interested..
just normal people
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-04 02:02 [#00295911]
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well.. .about the home schooling...
some people look at it as you think youre better then them... that you dont have to socialize with the "normal kids" and get a "public education"
at least thats my take on it
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Deathsmith
from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-07-04 02:10 [#00295928]
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Yes, homeschoolers are stereotyped to a horrible degree as well, but for the most part, that stereotype-ation is justified, at least. Most homeschoolers I've met ARE nerds!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-04 02:12 [#00295933]
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hehe
well
i still dont agree with passion + intellegence = nerd
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OK
on 2002-07-04 05:45 [#00296128]
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a disagree
i'd say that inteliigence + (whatever the opossite of passion is) = one kind of nerdiness.
and lack of intelligence + close mind = nerdiness too (sometimes)
being bullied at school = nerdiness (generally).
i know people who are very passioned and very intelligent.. and they all fit into the "cool people" category.
passion makes intelligence useful.
apathy makes intelligence wasted on star trek details. and comic books
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Tasos
from Athens (Greece) on 2002-07-04 06:19 [#00296167]
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I AM A NERD! I AM A NERD! I AM A NERD! I AM A NERD! I AM A NERD! I AM A NERD! I AM A NERD! I AM A NERD! I AM A NERD! I AM A NERD! I AM A NERD! I AM A NERD! I AM A NERD! I AM A NERD! I AM A NERD! I AM A NERD!
"And then the squirrel went back to defend it's home planet."
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SwitchFrontside
on 2002-07-04 06:22 [#00296172]
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DISAGREEEEEEEEEEEEEE !!!!! athletes aren't geeks ! pornstars arn't geeks !
the rest are :)
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brendan ether
from the beach (obx, NC) (United States) on 2002-07-04 06:22 [#00296175]
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i agree with Tits.
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SwitchFrontside
on 2002-07-04 06:23 [#00296176]
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Tasos you have some powder on the tip of your nose ;)
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Tasos
from Athens (Greece) on 2002-07-04 06:28 [#00296182]
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"Thank you, I love you"
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-07-04 06:32 [#00296193]
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my two cents *clink clink*
it all depends on how you look at the word NERD. for me it's not negative at all, i consider myself one. =0)
for example, i LOVE MATH, something that most people hate. is that not nerdi-ness to some people? is it negative?
answers - YES....and NO respectively
passion & intelligence is very very ATTRACTIVE/ SEXY to me, because the person infuses whatever they LOVE with an excitement and intensity that gets you thrilled/interested about it and makes you:
1. wanna learn about it
or
2. wanna listen to it
or
3. wanna become proficient at it
etc....
i never wanna lose my passion for learning, it makes it exciting to get up everyday! =0)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-04 06:35 [#00296200]
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oohhh a new pic from miss LeCoeur
and i kind of agree with you... but to me a nerd is some one with no social skills, and stuff... not someone who loves something, and is intellegent... etc etc.
and yes passion and intellegence is very attractive.
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SwitchFrontside
on 2002-07-04 06:38 [#00296205]
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to me a nerd is someone who has a full on obsession with something and thinks lives breathes it and is oblivious to his surroundings that dont involve it.......... not that that bad or anything just what i think a nerd is.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-07-04 06:45 [#00296215]
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tis sometimes the definition of the word..
nerd
n. 1. [mainstream slang] Pejorative applied to anyone with an above-average IQ and few gifts at small talk and ordinary social rituals. 2. [jargon] Term of praise applied (in conscious ironic reference to sense 1) to someone who knows what's really important and interesting and doesn't care to be distracted by trivial chatter and silly status games.
the general consensus is that a NERD is someone who is socially inept, however aren't we all guilty of anti-social behaviour at different times......i know i am and yet i'm a very social person.
it tis an interesting question!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-04 06:46 [#00296216]
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oh man, did i hit the nail on the head or what?!
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Archrival
on 2002-07-04 07:18 [#00296261]
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If u put a lot of passion into your work with intelligence on top of it then u are the opposite of a nerd imo.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-04 07:19 [#00296263]
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Fuckin A exactly
arch is on the level!
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-07-04 07:22 [#00296270]
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hehehe
but but archie.....it depends on your perspective.....we need to INFUSE the word NERD with a more positive meaning!! =0)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-04 07:23 [#00296273]
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why dont we just forget about the word NERD
just let it slip into the past...
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-07-04 07:27 [#00296281]
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I'm a first class nerd, come to think of it. I've got no problem with it. I'm cool! Too cool to fool, like Chester Cheetah. Like Razor Ramon, and Crash Bandicoot. Like Bubsy the Bobcat and Sonic the Hedgehog! Like the Fonz! And Clark Gable! And Frank Sinatra! Donald Duck! And John Travolta! And Patrick Swayze!
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Archrival
on 2002-07-04 07:28 [#00296282]
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Yeah, im maybe what the masses would define a nerd (surfing this site alldday) but im telling u....im surfing this site with a massive passion plus mad intelligence!! ;)
But to the ignorant masses we definitly need to INFUSE the word NERD with a more positive meaning :)
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Archrival
on 2002-07-04 07:33 [#00296292]
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theres different kinds of nerds...net nerds (like me), thug nerds, drukqs nerds, plastic nerds, mono nerds, theater nerds etc etc
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-07-04 07:34 [#00296293]
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awwwwww
*gives you a european kiss on BOTH cheeks*
=0)
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-07-04 07:42 [#00296304]
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though i tend to prefer the term 'geek' id say that intelligence+passion=nerdiness having said that...i think its a positive thing...the people who are labeled as nerds in high school...and are generally considered outasts by society...are often the people who make a difference and go places with their lives...
those with intelligence...and an interest with something other than getting laid and or wasted are always going to be considered odd
im rather proud to be a geek, actually and the only people i have any interest in being with are geeks...
im not trying to be snobby or pretentious...but "normal" people just seem boring..and often superficial..because usually to be considered "normal" they have to supress whatever might make them seem "weird"...and this isnt healthy at all...look at all the unhappy normal people...who hate their jobs, get stressed out about stupid things, surround themselves with people they can just barely stand..just so theyre not alone...they do things they hate...just because they feel they are supposed to
i feel sorry for the people who feel they have to be something besides themselves..especially those who ridicule and look down at those who are genuine..
this is all generalizing, i know...im sure there are plenty of geeky people who i probably wouldnt want to hang around with...and there are normal people who i dont mind..
and geeky people dont always lack social skills...but they very often exist outside the mainstream group
and zeus..i dont really know you...but the fact that you a. hang out on this messageboard and b. go to music school
indicate that you too, probably are a geek ..which isnt something to be ashamed of
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-04 07:46 [#00296306]
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well... i guess it all boils down to your definition of geek.
yeah, i spend alot of time on the net... and i go to music school (modern music mind you... not classical blah)
i am kind of anti social... but its by choice that i seclude myself. in my eyes, this doesnt define geek or nerd.
nerd makes me think of someone who thinks that star trek is actually a documentry... not a show. just to state one example...
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-04 07:50 [#00296307]
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*not to sound like i dont like classical music... i love it... but generally people who attend classical music schools are snobby narrowminded bastards
:)
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-07-04 07:51 [#00296309]
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!!! WHAT !?!?!?!?!?!?!
Star Trek isn't REAL.......mannnn my whole world is shattered =B
i'm a geek/nerd and proud of it.....good take wayOUT! =0)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-04 07:55 [#00296310]
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hehehe
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deadwhitespoon
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-07-04 08:01 [#00296312]
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How about: too intelligent + too passionate = nerd/geek too = pathological, disfunctionally, obsessively, etc. People are "nerdy" or "geeky" too others who are so removed from "nerd" or "geek" culture that functional communiation ceases. And vice versa: "nerds" and "geeks" can't relate to others because they are too far removed from "popular" culture and society to functionally communicate. It's a form of sub-culture shock I guess. Does anybody understand what I'm trying to say? Are we on the same wavelength here? Hello?
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-07-04 08:03 [#00296314]
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yeah...i guess the problem is that being a 'nerd' is seen by mainstream society as a negative or laughable thing...when in reality...society has nerds to thank for a lot of great things they take for granted...
and yeah...those trekkie people can be a bit much...but hey...you should respect them for doing their own thing...and dressing up in weird costumes and not giving two shits about what all the 'normal' people think of them...just because they love what theyre doing
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-07-04 08:18 [#00296328]
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yeah..i know what youre saying...usually things that are 'cool' and 'popular' are sort of trivial...and not worth become passionate about...
usually 'normal' people become interested in whatever they are told is 'cool' at the moment..for the purpose of appearing cool themselves..so they generally dont have genuine interest in many things...since they have to be ready to discard it and pick up something new whenever the fad passes...
so when someone becomes genuinely interested in something...its often something that isnt as discardable...and not appreciated by mainstream culture ...unless its chosen as the 'hot new thing' for a few months...then everyone who's everyone is into it...so they can be like everyone...and then once the fad passes...all thats left is the people who were truly into it..
its a lot like that episode of doug..where the guy on that tv show wore the same outfit that doug always wore...and for a week..everyone at his school wore green sweaters and brown shorts
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-07-04 08:29 [#00296343]
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and...i think having 'social skills' is overrated anyways...it seems those with 'social skills' are people who are just good at meeting others...and making small talk...this doesnt mean they have tons and tons of really close friends and important relationships...just a lot of acquiantances...people they talk to and hang around with a bit...but have no real connection with
these people seem to usually find silence uncomfortable..especially around others...
as douglas adams said 'when peoples mouths stop working...their brains start working'...so they feel the need to fill all this silence with mindless chatter...or vapid pop music...whereas 'nerds' would much prefer sitting in silence daydreaming or thinking about things ..rather than talk to someone they hardly know about baseball or shoes or something
plus ...having an interest in something that isnt considered 'cool' at the moment may get them ridiculed or at least looked upon negatively by others...so they often avoid these awkward situations by keeping to themselves
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-07-04 08:58 [#00296355]
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Proof that homeschoolers are "nerds":
http://www.seanbaby.com/nes/dearnintendo04.htm
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Bob Mcbob
on 2002-07-04 09:09 [#00296358]
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i would never dress up as a vulcan, i am not very intellegent and i am fairly apathetic (open minded)...yet i consider myself a 'nerd'....i 'do my own thing' and am not interested in what other people are interested in...am i a nerd then? i prefer the term 'weirdo'....
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-04 10:28 [#00296387]
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speaking of dressing up as a vulcan, has anyone seen the movie "Trekkies"...it's a very funny documentary about Star Trek fans...recommended...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-04 18:36 [#00296760]
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apathetic does not mean "open minded"
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Smyrma
from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2002-07-04 19:24 [#00296818]
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"Trekkies" is a funny movie. I love the kid with the mullet who designs his own uniforms :)
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