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dmise
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2002-06-24 08:22 [#00282576]
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http://launch.yahoo.com/read/news.asp?contentID=209387 Interesting article about moby claiming that groups with more tech savy fans are more likely to have their sales of cds effected. He calls it the pearl jam effect.
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-06-24 08:26 [#00282579]
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that is a very good point. makes you wonder if some aphex/autechre/plaid type stuff may in reality be of comparable popularity to top 40 stuff?
prolly not. :p
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-06-24 08:28 [#00282581]
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dont listen to moby. he's bald.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-24 08:28 [#00282582]
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I didn't read it but is the main point probably since techy people know how to download music/use computers, they therefore won't buy as much music (since they downloaded it)? Whereas people who listen to jewel are grandmas who can't think of how to open the computer to microwave a tv dinner.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-24 08:29 [#00282583]
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Yeah, heh heh, if he's bald he's probably a liar... and a child molester. This is completely reasonable slander.
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dmise
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2002-06-24 08:31 [#00282585]
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yeh that's pretty much the gist of it.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-24 08:40 [#00282588]
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Ok I read it now, so our goal is to target the old grandmas that don't know how to download music. They're always in the grocery store, so we'll have to sell our aphextwin.nu compilation there. I suppose the musical content won't matter, just the right cover on the album for this target audience, like some clouds in the background with a baked muffin in the foreground and we can call it "recipe music" or something. Well grandmas are known for gossip so word will get around the the actual music sucks, maybe we should make the music appealing to this target audience too... or not since it'll be a get rich quick scam anyway.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-06-26 04:52 [#00285207]
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as much as i dislike moby now i agree with this point on this
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b0nk
from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2002-06-26 05:46 [#00285262]
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hes probaby right but i mean even though i dl a lot of afx shit i still go out and buy the cds.. burning a cd isnt the same and plus it helps sales and wat not.. i dont think moby has to worry about decling cd sales he should worry more about his music..
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Smyrma
from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2002-06-26 06:00 [#00285275]
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Nobody listens to techno
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Smyrma
from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2002-06-26 06:02 [#00285279]
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Nevertheless, I think he's right
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2002-06-26 06:31 [#00285306]
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I think one can counter with the idea that techno savy fans are more apt at getting the word out via the internet, about a CD, song, that think is good, and effecting more people than their own inner techie circle.
The more people talking, the more chance more people will buy. If your music appeals to homeless people, chances are their won't be much internet buzz. Obviously there won't be many CD sales either, but at least tech savy people get the word out to non tech savy people, whether they themselves are more inclined to pirate is probably a reasonable assumption though.
Does it balance in the end, I can't find a bit of evidence that supports any conclusion yet, so I can't say.
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brendan ether
from the beach (obx, NC) (United States) on 2002-06-26 06:44 [#00285313]
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although, he has a good point, i think the bald bastard is just trying to pamper his ego by telling himself that the reason for his declining record sales is because of filesharing on the net instead of the truth, which is his music sucks. :D
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-06-26 06:46 [#00285315]
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that's what third eye blind claimed when their second album didn't sell
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2002-06-26 06:46 [#00285316]
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hahaha, I think brendan ether has proposed the most logical explanation.
ha, suck it down moby
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Clic
on 2002-06-26 06:52 [#00285325]
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I agree, wholeheartedly.
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2002-06-26 08:46 [#00285413]
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i think moby is correct...
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2002-06-26 17:33 [#00285808]
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I think that this can be true, but usually for me I download a few songs from a cd to dictate whether I'm going to buy it. Its unfair for the music industry to ask consumers to take a leap of faith on a cd, because they may end up hating it.
Overall I think that article was Moby pampering his ego, as brendan ether pointed out.
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2002-06-26 17:52 [#00285831]
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meh, i'll keep buying if they keep coming out ;0
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-06-26 18:17 [#00285858]
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moby and oakenfold in 15 days !!!
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DonkeyRhubarb
from Saegertown, PA (United States) on 2002-06-27 00:30 [#00286279]
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i like moby.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2002-06-27 00:46 [#00286311]
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Moby makes sheit music ! "We are all made of stars" Didnt that song even enter the Top40 !?
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Dozier
from United States on 2002-06-27 01:12 [#00286361]
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That was probably more accurately libel, not slander, since it was "in print" rather than spoken.
I like some Moby. But I like the Warp/Rephlex artists a lot more.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2002-06-27 02:54 [#00286452]
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moby says a lot of things
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-06-27 17:44 [#00287138]
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i like moby a lot because he is a very simeple man, ahhhhhhh my idol, we dont need 1/2 the shit that the catalogs are trying to sell us
we dont need 200 kinds of toothpaste
"the things you own end up owning you" .....fight club
even if his cd human rights didnt sell billions its still one of the best cds out there....thanks...see you in kansas city moby....thad
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