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recently, i have been growing more fascinated with him. i went to amazon just to see how many books there were there, and there were a little over 180. does anyone here know anything about him? |
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180! Wow... The only thing I know about him is his Tarot... |
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all i know is he liked to call himself the most wicked man alive. |
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He was a madman, but one of the first people telling others to do what they want "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law". That quote inspired entire religions and songs. That's why he's an important figure in our history. He also wrote some famous poetry. Here's some more info: http://maroney.org/CrowleyIntro/Do_What_Thou_Wilt.html |
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When asked to demonstrate his powers in the street by a cynical reporter, he fell into step behind a man walking in front of him. After a few steps Crowley squatted suddenly, the man he was following's legs buckeled and he fell over. |
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crowley was a funny little man, but smart too... |
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His teaching is a kind of a mixture of best parts of judaism, buddhism, islam, hinduism and nietszche... |
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"He was a madman, but one of the first people telling others to do what they want "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law". sorry laserbeak, but any student of Crowley would be mortified at what you just wrote :( 01) he was NO madman, but a man of EXTREMELY high intellect, as well as being an EXTREMELY accomplished mountaineer and traveller 02) "do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" is NOT telling people to "do what they want" -- it is a call to discover one's own true will and to follow its path |
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I call people who beat women, use insane amounts of drugs and poison their followers mad. |
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that's a laugh -- did you read all that in "the sun"? maybe you should use more relevant sources for your opinions? |
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Sorry guys, but I don't respect Crowley as the cult icon people make out. Sure, he was anti-authoritarian (Great) and a thrill-seeker (fine) but he was also from a wealthy priveleged background , and a claustrophobic one of extreme religious puritanical zealousness which had him deeply troubled from his early years. So he was hardly a folk-hero. the one thing about him I can't abide is his seeming cruelty to those around him when things got tough. He left his wife & child to die in the far east while he took mistresses, deserted his team on mount Kachjinjunga ( again to die) and helped send numerous people to madness and disease > A Crowley with a conscience may not have been capable of being a true Crowley, but surely its possible to have the good stuff ( Fuck the status quo / sexual depravity etc..) without being a complete cunt to absolutely everyone . And lets not forget, he was never really happy with his own life and died a sad withdrawn confused individual in an English seaside town. But he's certainly an intriguing character. Just not a particular role-model of mine |
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the selfless make the best martyrs.... |
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http://brainwashed.com/axis/crowley/flexipop666.htm Some sections: "He practically gave up his mountaineering and exploration and set up an abbey in Sicily, where he tried to start a community living according to the Law of Thelema, the name he gave to the message in The Book. The Abbey was not too successful: one person died after Crowley reputedly made him drink cat's blood, although this was, in fact, diseased water. Another went insane, living naked on top of a hill and refusing to wash." "His earlier experiments with drugs of all sorts - opium, cocaine, laudanum, hashish, alcohol and so on - had enabled him to experience many visions which he believed to either have magical significance for him or to offer magical guidance to him. It was not the same with heroin, which was prescribed to him by a Harley Street doctor to combat his asthma, which worsened after his mountaineering expeditions. He was unable to rid himself of this addiction, though he tried often. He built up a huge tolerance eventually injecting up to 60 times the normal dosage - enough to kill a roomful of people." "The funeral ceremony at Brighton was celebrated with a reading of Crowley's 'Hymn To Pan': 'And I rave, and I rape and I rip and I rend, Everlasting, world without end'." OK, not as mad as I said but still mad... |
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his early years of puritanical psychological traumas led to his life of brutally forcing back psychological and institutional barriers. He was someone whose head had been fucked in turn becoming his own self-styled fuckhead . But nonetheless an incredibly charismatic one who did indeed draw millions of people into challenging boundaries.. that can't be so bad. |
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He's a genius who helped to change this Catholic/christian world into something more natural and enjoyable for all of us. If you want know about him read The Confessions of Aleister Crowley, he was a man who lived an extraordinary life, he was no joke or madman or helpless drug fiend, he did things with his mind that have forever changed the reality we live in! We should be so fortunate to have a third of the beautiful life affirming, egho destroying experiences that he delved into almost every day. Akkad |
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ohhh, so laserbeak is quoting a website! :D hilarious! of course he knows best! i only had his own books, and regardie's books and other accounts to go on!! my bad!! he MUST have been a madman!! oh, smokehammer, crowley came from a semi-wealthy family, yes, but he had no regard for money: "the true will of money is not to accumulate, but to keep moving" --- he spent all his money on himself and on others, and lived a large portion of his life in poverty... and as for the slanderous accusations that he lived out the last of his life as a drivelling crazy smack addict - read "magick without tears", a collection of gnostic letters to a un-named woman with whom he shared a correspondance: these letters are from the '40s, up to his death - read these and you'll be forced to re-appraise your clouded view of him. LOVE IS THE LAW, LOVE UNDER WILL |
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never heard of him! does this make me ,more of a retard? |
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Have I stepped on your toes or something? I'm sorry if I offended your beliefs... |
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marlowe> OK, I only saw one documentary on Channel 4. should've mentioned that fact :) probably has coloured my view of him, so I bow to your superior knowledge I 'll read more some day _) |
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it's ok laser, i try not to cling to beliefs :) just crowley is so wrongly maligned! :) |
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that documentary was TOTAL shit -- delete it from your head!! |
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no, not that one marlowe, another one :) |
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:P u poophead, i know it's the same one!!! |
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PS> just got the door thing: REDRUm RdDRUM REDRUM. RED Rum RED RUM RED RUM !!! ( right ?) Makes sense now, you had the wee cute little bairn laddie in yer avatar afore , no ? ya ken ? "whats that Tommy? *ee ee ee* .. you're scared ?" scuse me Scottish , sherriff . |
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It's just the stuff I've read, I assumed it was true. It could be false information since his view were not very popular among the more conservative press. |
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hehe :P laserbeak: there's a famous headline in the british shit-rag, NEWS OF THE WORLD, with a picture of aleister crowley, and the headline THE MOST EVIL MAN IN THE WORLD -- it would be funny if the nazies hadn't massacred 2 million years |
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All I know is what Ozzy Osbourne says in ''Mr. Crowley.'' Mr. Crowley, what went on in your head Mr. Crowley, did you talk with the dead Your life style to me seemed so tragic With the thrill of it all You fooled all the people with magic You waited on Satan's call Mr. Charming, did you think you were pure Mr. Alarming, in nocturnal rapport Uncovering things that were sacred manifest on this Earth Conceived in the eye of a secret And they scattered the afterbirth (solo) Mr. Crowley, won't you ride my white horse Mr. Crowley, it's symbolic of course Approaching a time that is classic I hear maidens call Approaching a time that is drastic Standing with their backs to the wall Was it polemically sent l wanna know what you meant I wanna know I wanna know what you meant And, uh... that doesn't explain much. I think I'll go find out more about this Funny Little Man. |
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Laseerbeak >Don't believe everything you read . . . . . . . . . . on aphextwin.nu/mb .) |
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yeah, ozzy osbourne - right... press "IGNORE" and you'll be better off for it dude --- here are some reading matters for those who wanna know more: 01) magick without tears 02) 8 lectures in yoga 03) book 4 04) the book of thoth 05) the eye in the triangle (biography of crowley) |
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The Confessions of Aleister Crowley, the final word on what the man was like. Akkad |
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well ... thank you all very much. heh, all the back and forth makes me more interested in learning about him. at least i know what books to start with |
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Definitely will take into many different directions, so just letting you know this. Akkad |
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