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i think photek's solaris is the bible of electronic music.....and all u people saying photek was good before solaris,i feel sorry for u.......u should really expand your minds and views a little,so u can comprehend the greatness of an artist like photek....he is aware that drum'n'bass died a long time ago,and there is nothing more to say in that genre,so he,as a progressive artist beyond genres,moved to the other genres,and he is doing a miraculous job there,...for example i think he is the best house producer around although hes house career is only 4 tracks long....but those 4 tracks blows away complete discographies of a renown house producers around... every fuckin track on solaris is a gold mine in its own genre,and thats something your idols like autechre,aphex,squarepusher and others will never touch cuz they are pretty one-dimensional doing the same kind of music for decades... sorry guys...PHOTEK IS STILL NUMBER ONE ON THE PLANET!!! |
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to say 'sorry guys...PHOTEK IS STILL NUMBER ONE ON THE PLANET!!!' ............ is not one-dimensional of course. it's YOUR opinion, nothing less, nothing more |
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wow i guess you're right about all of that! |
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well considering how much house sucks, you cant even have a good house song because the house genre limits you to make crappy music. same beat over and over for like 4 or 5 minutes doesn't sound like progression from his previous work. if he was progressing he would make more experimental music not less experimental. thats my opinion, you have yours and I have mine. |
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and so aphex twin has been doing the same thing for decades? saw2 is the same as drukqs according to you? there complete opposites. now look at amber and confield. they couldn't be any more different. i wont even get into any other artists because its completely pointless. |
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Expand our minds? The thing is, the house tracks on Solaris aren't really that good in general, compared to other things around at the moment. And if you put Autechre next to something like house and then say 'expand your minds/horizons', I'd pick Ae, naturally. House is something that's been around for a long period of time. It's been done to death and is boring. |
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what a stupid, stupid thread |
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true! DM stfu |
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you tell us to expand our minds and views but hen say something pretty stupid like "he is aware that drum'n'bass died a long time ago" which is of course the biggest bullshit story ever. If that is indeed what he thinks, then i wont even have to bother checking out his music. Drum & Bass is still alive |
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I totally agree, J198. There's been some shit D & B to come out, but that doesn't mean it's gone. |
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true but you have to admit dnb isn't as popular as it was in '96. who're the big dnb producers right now? i can only think of aphrodite, but i stopped listening a few years ago. i'm asking a sincere question, please list some dnb'ers, i might want to check them out.. |
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i mainly listen to ed rush&optical, goldie, dillinja, ez rollers, ltj bukem, dreazz & falcon, and basically everything thats either really chilled out or just speedy and hardcore drum&bass. As far as i know, all of these artists still produce records these days, but i dont really keep up with the latest productions. I know dNb isn't popular, but i dont think it should be. Its an underground scene and if u know where to look, you'll find it. I still go to dNb parties a lot.. |
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thats what we DON'T need anymore!!! ARRRGGG this hardcore techstep drum n bass (stupid Dieselboy and what he spins) is so stupid!! There's no quirkyness to it like old drum n bass and jungle...back when it was GOOD. all it is now is 'kick snare kick kick snare' at like 180 bpm. ARRGGGG!!!! |
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ed and rush optical and some of goldie...just pure boringness... |
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goldie hasn't put anything out in years has he? asides from some mix cd. |
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i don't know and i don't care. all i know is that dnb isn't what it used to be...its in a pretty sad state right now |
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I do agree with Amon. If you look hard enough, you can still find some good d&b though. |
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"same beat over and over for like 4 or 5 minutes doesn't sound like progression " did u actually listen to photek's house tracks ??? anyway saw2 and drukqs ARE the same genre...its electronica.saw2 is more ambient,and drukqs is more percussion and drum'n'bass oriented... in the same vein...amber and confield are the same genre too......amber-ambient,confield-experimental...but just electronica and they will never exit out of their electronica holes.... |
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ur not making any sense u'd have to be musically retarded not be able to tell the difference between confield and amber, or confield and almost any other electronic music for that matter photeks house tracks are NOT progressive or innovative musically if i really think they are, im sure we'd all get a kick out of u trying to explain how |
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u dont get it... i consider confield as one of the best electronic albums in the history of music...amber also,in its time.. but they are just electronica... photek has moved beyond one-genre-bonding... do you think autechre could actually make a pop music with vocals on it??? i really doubt it...i think they are incapable of doing that... they will always be the kings of electronica....and nothing more. but photek is MUCH more...... |
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?!!!?!??!?!?!??! photek is elctronica too! ur sound as though u think he's started a rock band or something! |
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photek is definitely not electronica.. he doesnt use elctronic samples.....he uses analog samples and digitally produces them to get electronic sound...but its not electronica by genre... |
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why is out opinion on photek so damn important to you? I mean, you like solaris... fine... congratulations, junno, so what? As long as YOU like it |
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digital, you're an idiot. sorry. |
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What's electronica? Does it have a steady beat, like waltz or something. Even IDM sounds sane compared to "electronica". -P |
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Digital Messiah: THAT IS RUBBISH!!!!! So okay, photek isn't electronica....lets call it...COUNTRY MUSIC!! YEAH PHOTEK IS MORE COUNTRY THAN BLOODY ELECTRONICA!! Of COURSE Photek is electronica!!! Man...and Ae wouldn't CARE to make pop cause their music is far better the way it is...it's electronica as well. I suggest you learn your subgenres! [as im learning more myself] |
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thanks cheffe p.s. i bet your mother said exactly "sorry" when she gave birth to you and spotted your fathers terrified look on his face... amonburne....no comment...youre absolutely right whatever you say and even if you dont say it,you're still right... |
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So, is this Photek electronic music or not? -P |
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Oh wow, he moved from making very interesting d&b... to very boring house music. What an artistic progression. I must not get it though... I love Photek in his pre-Solaris days. I think he really had something there. Now, he just doesn't sound so hot. That whole album just sounds tired and forced. And Amon is right about Ae. They wouldn't give a fuck about any pop music. Fuck that shit. Get it straight man. They LIKE putting new sounds into the world. Photek apparently doesn't, which is a shame. |
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Well said Clic |
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Thanks |
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Seriously guys!!!!!!! PHOTEK STILL PUT OUT GREAT DNB ON HIS "PHOTEK PRODUKTIONS" LABEL AS "SPECIAL FORCES"!!!! i have said this like ten times here now......but nobody seems to care???? haha!! The House tracks on Solaris are great imo eventho i normaly disslike house. Its the other tracks i find really boring , Big Beats and shit. Rupert can do better then that!!! |
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I think Rupert was almost forced to do what he did on Solaris...which is probably why it sounds forced. It could have been from the record company or from peers. I don't know. Its sad...and I hope he picks things up for his next album. And source direct...they used to be cool. But I don't think we'll ever hear from him again after that slip up between baker and that other guy. That sucked. I heard SD and Photek used to be friends too. |
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Source Direct still release music godamnit!!! Rupert was forced? Seriously Amon....read some interviews or something...shit!! Doing those house tracks together with Robert Owen was a dream he has had ever since he first got into the scene. House music was the first music he got into (like most other DNB producers) and he simply felt like going back to his roots for a while. |
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Source Direct: Exorcise The Demons = Good. |
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Amen!!! =) |
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i have never heard any of Photek's music. Perhaps I will check it out sometime. But honestly, can someone tell me is it worth listening to compared to Aphex Twin. Musically that is. |
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His track Ni Ten Ichi Ryu is definitely worth a listen, it's a bit like samurai Drum 'n Bass. I don't like his new stuff |
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hey clic ,do u actually listen to some house music,or u're just a house hater,so in that case u cant tell a difference between good and bad house? please name soem house artists u like... amon...u're a pure genious,can i change my name to amonbrune,cuz u're my idol from now on.... kryocera...."Musically that is" ????????? how can you compare somethin"musically"?,what is the meaning of that anyway ?? |
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bah. I thought this was going to be a thread about the Tarkovsky film. >:| Photek seems highly overrated. I bought Ni-Ten-Ichi-Botty or whatever, which I though was great, so I bought others, and they weren't. |
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>"hey clic ,do u actually listen to some house music,or u're just a house hater,so in that case u cant tell a difference between good and bad house?"< Do I actually listen to some house, or am I a 'house hater'? What does it matter? If I hear something that I don't like, I don't like it. It's my opinion, get over it 'Digital Messiah'. Telling ME that I can't tell the difference between something good and something bad, is an absurd statement. You just sound like you're pissed off because hardly anyone agrees with you're "Solaris is the bible of electronic music" statement. Seems like you would pick something a little better than Solaris to be the 'bible' of electronic music. I do not like house music. I don't think it would matter if I did listen to it or not, I can still form opinions on stuff. I dated a girl that listened to a lot of it because she was a DJ, and I hated so much of it. It's boring and repetitive. I guess that makes me a 'house hater'. Good. I don't really care, because I like music that's INTERESTING to listen to. Sorry I don't find Photek's new 'house cutz' as genius as you do. He's just breaking old ground. |
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Frankie Bones is a douche bag, btw. |
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i think drum'n'bass is still alive..anyway i have no regret of phtek's turning doing house instead of d'n'b but it's quite frightnenig just as ae decided to produce a2-step album or so... |
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clic its good you confessed that youre a house hater,cuz that makes a lot of difference....cuz when someone hates the whole genre he cant be objective...its a fact. for example i hate metal music,and i cant tell a difference between the best metal band in the history and the biggest piece of shit in metal music......cuz to me its all shit... get the point? |
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cuz cuz cuz |
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He might be a troll, he's totally non-public. If he is one, he's a very sneaky one.... He's pissing us all off |
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I'm listening to some Photek right now, this topic got me curious... So far... it sucks. Sounds cheesy. |
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A lot of idm-folks seem to have a twisted idea of what house is. The same goes for techno. |
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How could you say this ISN'T electronica... cheesy stuff like this is the first thing that comes to mind when I hear that horrible word. I don't consider Autechre and Aphex and the like ''electronica''... for me personally, I HATE that word... right up there with Braindance. |
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It's a pretty stupid term. |
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