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Any of you bitches seen this film? I went to see it on the weekend and thought that it was aload of pollocks(budoom-tsshh). Nah seriously, was disappointed. Maybe if I wasn't such an ignorant prick when it came to art I might have enjoyed it but on the level of a film it wasn't great. Your thoughts? |
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Hey, I thought to comment on this in the email, but, since you started the thread, well, who made this film? Who is in the role of Pollock? |
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'an ignorant prick' - you've answered your question all on your own |
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Hey, chill out there shkwuzz, he did say that he didn't like it as film, regardless of Pollock's art. |
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It was made by Ed Harris, who also played Pollock. Thanks for the endorsment Shkwuzz. Have you seen it? |
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Ah, yes, Ed Harris, I've read about it. Now I have to go to another meeting but will catch up with you later, bods. |
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pity, I've been kinda looking forward to that...with a guy with the passion & pretty eventful life of Pollock they should've been able to produce something pretty cool; but I guess the problem is who do you aim these sort of films at?..make em too simple & anyone who knows anything about the artist get annoyed, too truthful & it's boring for your standard movie goer... Is there much actual painting in the film?...I'd love to see his stuff on a huge cinema screen...reproductions of Pollock generally look like shite, but film should be able to get it right... |
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C u later. My other complaint about the film was that it featured that American Beauty-style plinky-plonky music that an increasing number of films seem to be soundtracked by. Its really annoying. Keep it dark folks a la Requiem for a Dream and Kronos Quartet. |
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The painting scenes were its saving grace Jand so I reckon you should check it out. I wonder how he got it (kind of) right. They handled that really well. It was just that as a film it lacked depth. I walked away from the film knowing little more about him, apart from the fact that he was a tad misogynistic, a drunk and treated his partner pretty piss poorly. He didn't have that much dialogue in the film (maybe coz he was pissed half the time) and when he did speak he sounded (I'm sorry this isn't too PC) like someone with learning difficulties. Of course this doesn't detract from the merits of the film but I found it hard to reconcile the fact that a great artist came across like an 8 year old. But as I said I'm ignorant when it comes to art/artisits. Watching it as a film fan I was just left with very little. |
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...sounds like they got him pretty close to life, he was pretty much a 8yr old...His Bio was nearly 1000 pages long, so big problem with how you handle that sort of depth on-screen, I guess... Good to hear it's got some good painting scenes in it tho...think I might pop up to the City soon and have a wander about & check that movie out (our local cinema is shite for anything that isn't a blockbuster; they didn't even show A Beautiful Mind...) |
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Maybe they were close then. He wasn't very articulate then if the film is anything to go by. As someone with a keen interest I'd like to hear your thoughts when you see it. The thing is you didn't get any idea why he was fucked up(intelligent terminology I know). You got nothing before his life in New York. |
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off the topic, Jand: a beautiful mind was a piece of PC shite along the lines of Forest Gump. I regret seeing it. |
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Hey, what was wrong with Forrest Gump? I thought the lovable retard angle was great. Wasn't that mathematician dude an anti-semite? |
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I don't remember that from the movie, but he might have been: 1) He was paranoid after all 2) The movie might have ommited that in order to present him as a great all-american hero fighting his personal demons for the benefit of all. |
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I think that was what the criticism was about. Omission is a great tool eh? |
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Yeah, great. But the film was anyway unbearable. The fucking Dustin Hoffman set a template in "Rain man" for all actors in future roles of mentally challenged/ retarded/ affected people (excluding Hannibal Lector types) and it's really a political issue to me. The attempt to reduce their "otherness", even "alienness" to some kind of friendly-psycho fairytale. I especially despise the fact that in all those films (Rainman, A beautiful mind, Forest Gump, Shine...) their mental "defect" (antisocial component) is ballanced by some special virtue (community-useful component ). The sheer racism/ discrimination of this message always infuriated me: it basically says we should not have respect for people for what they are (at least appreciate their otherness), but for what they can do for the society. In other words we try to deny their otherness by reducing them to their usefulness. Disgusting PC propaganda. |
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I hear you. I was just kidding with my Forest Gump comment. I'd never really thought about it in any depth but you're right. Apparently this new film with Sean Penn is supposed to be pretty awful. |
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I know you were kidding, my comment was about A beautiful mind, not Forst Gmp, though it is more or less the same crap... What new Sean Penn flick? |
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I read the book of ABM months before the film came out...was really suprised they attempted to film it cos it's not your standard Hollywood fare...Still haven't seen it yet and probably won't as it'll only dissapoint me, I guess...Nash was a real complex guy and his story too compicated to get over in film, I reckon... I kinda liked Forest Gump...on the surface it's kinda sentimental I guess but if you read it as a history of the US it's real neat...Jenny as the dark side of the American dream and Forest as it's innocent, good side...that simplfies it a lot, it's a pretty deep movie at times... I guess the big trouble with movies like the above is the tendancy to sugar-coat stuff to make it digestable...but sometimes, like FG, if you look behind the sentimentality there can be a good movie lurking underneath.... |
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ps I agree re: the portrayal of "otherness"... |
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I can't remember the name of the new Sean Penn film but he plays a guy with learning difficulties who has to fight over custody of his daughter. Apparently its sickeningly sentimental and pretty offensive. I'm surprised as I really rate Sean Penn. Michelle Pfieffer is also in it as a guilty lawyer. |
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Jonesy: It does sound like a recipe for disaster. Stupid people shouldn't breed, as some band called their album, back in the 90s. Kidding, of course: No one should breed IMHO. Jand: I hear that but still hate FG. It prolly has something to do with me hating TH's guts. |
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Don't worry everyone, Meho is a cynical bastard. Forrest Gump failed to warm his cold, cold heart. I bet you didn't even like ET did you Meho? |
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Hmm, I did as a kid but, reflecting on it today (and, no, I did not go to see the facelift version) it pretty much moves along the similar lines: otherness being reduced to a mere freak factor and the "other" being reduced to ourselves... But it's a children's story so I prolly shouldn't be that harsh. But anyway, it's how our xenophobic culture works... |
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Have you seen it yet Jand? |
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