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LPB
from Regina (Canada) on 2002-06-08 18:30 [#00255936]
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"Although not a follower of hseroK divaD (David Koresh), she's a devoted Branch Davidian" Anybody know what this means?
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2002-06-08 18:33 [#00255942]
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it's talking about amo bishop roden.
david koresh is the leader of the branch davidians.
they killed people at waco
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LPB
from Regina (Canada) on 2002-06-08 18:34 [#00255945]
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I supposed this happened in "1969", did it?
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-06-08 18:34 [#00255947]
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David Koresh was the leader of a religious cult or something wasn't he? Wasn't that the Waco Texas thing? Maybe Branch Davidian is what the cult members were called...
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-06-08 18:35 [#00255951]
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I read somewhere that the 1969 is a connection with the Charles Manson murders... but who really knows, all that connects the two things is that the manson murders took place in 1969...
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LPB
from Regina (Canada) on 2002-06-08 18:37 [#00255954]
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"1969" is the sunshine. Is that why it's connected with Charles Manson? That's what I heard, something about the Sunshine killers or something.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2002-06-08 18:47 [#00255971]
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waco was in 92, or 91, some where around there. 69 is also the year that cs gas was outlawed, which is what the davidians used to destroy the building in waco
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-06-08 18:49 [#00255975]
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I dunno, I just love Boards of Canada... I don't try and read into all these connections, I just listen to the music and enjoy it... maybe the connections are there and were meant by the group, maybe not... but the music is fantastic, and that's all I care about!!!
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2002-06-08 18:54 [#00255984]
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the connections and shit are half the fun! i mean, come on, the smallest wierd number. the track it's self is a reference to their old label (the smallest wierd number is 70, they used to be on music70) and it's got a davidian reference in it (we love you all played backwords: david koresh said this to a negotiator before he torched the place) it's groovy shite!
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LPB
from Regina (Canada) on 2002-06-08 19:07 [#00256004]
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BOC must worked so hard on this album.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-06-08 19:17 [#00256024]
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the branch davidians didn't do all the killing in Waco -- look towards governmental agencies for the blame -- their unlawful attempts to get into the compound...their over-the-top reaction to his refusal -- they were the crazy fuckers, not him
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grinningcat
from london (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-08 19:20 [#00256028]
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shame they didnt work on it much musically.... j/k.
im not american so i dont understand any of this waco crap. Some1 killed some1 called david or something? i dont know. i dont wanna know.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-06-08 19:27 [#00256035]
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good to see people hungry for new information
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2002-06-08 19:59 [#00256060]
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the davidians ended up torching a building, killing 74 people, including many children
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-08 20:04 [#00256065]
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those are nasty connections boc are making, then
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grinningcat
from london (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-08 20:17 [#00256092]
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yeah, why are they making those connections?? who the fuck are they to comment on this massacre? boycott the scottish fuckers thats what i say.
what the fuck is david koresh to them? why are they idolising him? why why why??? why the fuck is fuck david? why is the word fuck fuck? what is fuck fuck feck? why BOC is fuck in the Geogaddi fuckers? eh? answer me!
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2002-06-08 20:22 [#00256095]
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MAKE ME
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-08 20:34 [#00256103]
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where's Archrival when you need him? :P he probably knows a lot on this subject..
anyhow, 1969 is a fantastic track!
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2002-06-08 20:36 [#00256107]
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your avatar makes me feel epileptic
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grinningcat
from london (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-08 21:24 [#00256166]
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what is avatar?
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Nexus 6
from Netherlands, The on 2002-06-08 21:26 [#00256170]
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that little picture beneath your points
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-06-08 21:36 [#00256188]
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youll also notice that the playing time of 'smallest weird number' is 70 seconds
'a beautiful place' ep is also full of branch davidian references...(the title, a pic of david koresh's eye, amo bishop rodin, etc...)
they said in an interview that they were just interested in the whole event...how the us government reacted ..they claim not to be very religious or anything..just intrigued by events like waco
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dingle berry
from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2002-06-08 22:39 [#00256297]
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who was/is amo bishop roden
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eric_hard_jams
on 2002-06-08 22:50 [#00256317]
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Amo Bishop Roden, a woman who left the Waco compound because she disagreed that David Koresh was a prophet. (Amo Bishop Roden described the compound as "a beautiful place out in the country.")
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2002-06-08 22:53 [#00256323]
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the giant letters are really unneccessary
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dingle berry
from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2002-06-08 22:54 [#00256327]
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cheers mr eric hard jams!
what with all of this frantic internet wanking i need all the large text i can get!
8)
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-06-08 23:01 [#00256338]
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david koresh didn't burn down the compound and kill the children - the governmental agencies are responsible for it - and that's been documented by reliable (and myseteriously ignored (just like in the JFK assassination)) witnesses
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-06-09 05:15 [#00256661]
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i was in fourth grade. i was very hypnotized by the whole thing, but i could never figure out what was going on. all the news would report would be horrible things about the cult, but one could never get any information on what the cult was about, just that Koresh claimed to be a prophet. what the hell kind of information did david have to attract such a following? what kind of person was he? what were his prophecies?
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2002-06-09 05:47 [#00256668]
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A little about the Waco/ Ruby Ridge incident. The whole controversy about the event is brought about by the dispute whether the FBI agents set the fire, or whether the Branch Davidians did. I think most, if not all the people inside who weren't evacuated by the FBI died. Mass death - the main reason for the investigation / controversy. Who was ultimately responsible for all those who died is in dispute to this day. The whole thing was also televised live on the broadcast & news stations, i remember it quite well.
It's weird - All of BoC's music gives me this odd image in my head of a peaceful, sunny, hot landscape, like in the midwest or the south central united states. Especially 1969.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-06-09 07:17 [#00256726]
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maybe they had distant (or otherwise) relatives involved in the branch davidians? or maybe their third cousin fourth removed was one of the feds who torched the place and allowed them all to die
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-09 07:21 [#00256727]
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fuck me...there's a lot of disinfo going about WACO...
You guys need to have a deeper look into what happened, the net should be full of info so you can make our own mind up rather than go for any media fed story...it was one of the major events of the 90s (and really defined that decade I think)...
It's generally accepted that the FBI fucked up big style...using Tanks and Guns against Women & Children is kinda wack...as to who started the fire?..check the tape; the fire starts just as a huge tank more or less destroys the whole side of the main building (by crashing thru it)...whether it was the tank that caused the fire, you gotta wonder what the fuck it was doing there in the first place....
Ruby Ridge was even worst in terms of blatent Government overkill...the amount of armed officers to deal with the tiny amount of people was way over the top....I believe it was only a family anyway (Father, 2-3 kids and the mother)...the mother got shot & killed first and they forced the kids/father to stay in the shack with her dead body for days...
The US Govt was in major trouble over these 2 events...
It's also generally accepted that Waco & Ruby Ridge were the key motivation behind Tim McVeighs bombing of that Federal building....I'm not condoning that attack but the Govt should have (and probably did) seen it coming after their fiasco at Waco and Ruby Ridge...
9/11 made that kinda of Governmental paranoia seem somewhat misplaced....
Oh yeah..1969...a wonderul year; full of weird resonances...
a) First men on the moon.... b) Woodstock...end of the 60s dream.. c) Birth of the Internet..(yay!!)... d) Manson Murders & Trial...(again more death of the 60s)...
e) jands birth (Boc were obviously thinking of that I reckon...;)...
69 is when the whole 60s love & peace vibe died and it flipped into the hard drug use & paranoia of the 70s...fascinating time to look into...
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-09 07:22 [#00256729]
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shit..that was a long post...
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gyroscope
on 2002-06-09 07:23 [#00256730]
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that's what she said, hur hur hur
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-09 07:24 [#00256731]
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"FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi-- who shot Vicki Weaver in the head while she was standing in the cabin doorway, holding her baby in her arms--...."...
Kinda sums it up really...the above is about Ruby Ridge...
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-09 07:48 [#00256741]
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Janet Reno: "The ghost of Waco will be with me all of my life, I will never forget Waco."
Too fucking right, Janet...a lot of people hold you personally responsible...(she ordered the tanks in, after 51(!) days...)...
The more you read about Waco & Ruby Ridge, the more obvious it becomes that this was a major error by the US Govt...
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Archrival
on 2002-06-09 18:56 [#00257074]
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"the branch davidians didn't do all the killing in Waco -- look towards governmental agencies for the blame -- their unlawful attempts to get into the compound...their over-the-top reaction to his refusal -- they were the crazy
fuckers, not him" yeah, true true.
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Archrival
on 2002-06-09 19:06 [#00257083]
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To be honest, I thought "From One Source All Things Depend" was one of the creepiest tracks on Geogaddi.
Having little kids talk about God is one thing, but having them recite verses from the Bible is another. Those kids didn't really sound like they knew what they were saying. It sounded like one of those school recitations of a history book.
The one part of it that sticks out in my mind is when the little girl recites The Lord's Prayer and gets to the part where it talks about dying she stutters a bit, like she realizes what she's saying.
The overlying theme of Geogaddi I think is one of confusion and how easily people are led "astray." Every BOC album is like that the confusion, beautiful but at the same time haunting melodies, there something dark in laying in the tracks...I know this is a touchy subject for people so I won't make any assumptions.
I will say that little kids are the easiest to influence and this track really let's that show through.
1969 great track!
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-06-09 19:22 [#00257103]
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i wish i had a DAT recorder -- there are so many great things i want people to say!! :(
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Martytan
from somewhere in upstate new york (United States) on 2002-06-09 21:39 [#00257344]
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http://start.at/mt.carmel
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-06-09 21:40 [#00257348]
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once again Archie's on point
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