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charlie on 2001-07-16 00:38 [#00015301] | |||||||||
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i'm a huge fan of the guy, but one notices a formula, especially in his earlier stuff. melodically, he can be relied on to do the same thing throughout different atmospheres. his melodies often consist of 4 notes, against which he plays with timbre, harmony, and pitch. his beats are funky in that motorik sort of way. i have almost every afx track available, and while i think he is definitely the greatest electro-geek of all time, something about his ouevre seems underwhelming. part of it is that most of what's in print dates back to stuff he was making in the 80's/early 90's, so much of his work sounds all of one piece. really, the only left turn in his career is SAW2, which i still listen to befuddled, and even in that album, you can hear little ticks that come up elsewhere. maybe i've just been listening to him way too much. and any real fan will probably scoff at this question, saying that his repetitiousness is the whole damn point. anyway, what do you all think? |
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Ken Shabby on 2001-07-16 00:50 [#00015304] | |||||||||
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Nice comments. You should write for NME! Some of his tracks ARE undisputably shite. |
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The Grey Gentleman from Eugene, Oregon on 2001-07-16 01:36 [#00015306] | |||||||||
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Yeah, I've noticed that, too, as I've been deciphering some of his melodies at random, as of late: Just deciphered Track #9 off of Melody From Mars today, in fact. It's rather simple, but seriously catchy. I don't think the value of music has anything to do with its complexity, however. It's the feelings it gives you...goosebumps, etc. Look at Cylob, his music is all rather simple, but still quite wicked. I appreciate the musicians who can pull that off and make crazy tunes to boot. |
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thanksomuch from some where on 2001-07-16 01:45 [#00015307] | |||||||||
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is aphex overraterd?!? what the hell planet do you come from.. no no, i am going about this all wrong.. you are certainly entitled to your opion not matte5r how stupid, shit ... i am going about it wrong again.. what i mean is, don't open your trap unless you have some thing intelligent to say. but in that case, you might as well be mute... DAMN.. sorry, i just can't be nice about his topic.. sorry sorry sorry. |
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nene on 2001-07-16 01:46 [#00015308] | |||||||||
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he sounds like himself. what a crime. |
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|REFLEX| from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2001-07-16 02:35 [#00015319] | |||||||||
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shutup. really. Ok, maybe your right in your opinion, but when will people realize that these are mere opinions, I can't fathem the number of times this kind of thing has come up in here, other places and in real life; most of all. Its your opinion, and it may be biast to say such thing and want people to believe them as fact? Anyway, I don't agree with what your saying at all. Some songs are simple, yet complex when you break it down, the melody, the reverb. Whatever you wish, its there. You see something in one album, and I see something else in yet another. Its ongoing... I personally enjoy his older works a bit more than his newer ones {im waiting for the new shit to come out!}, they are extreemly well done, and I think they have more imagination put into them, rather than ambition of bettering ones self in the world of his own music. His newer stuff is great, just not as good, and thought provoking. - You see this is jusy MY opinion. Anyway..... yeah.. whatever, have a good one. >:D |
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m....MwMw wwW(m M m)Www wMwM....m on 2001-07-16 06:40 [#00015337] | |||||||||
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Yeah, I guess most of his earlier material has a distinct formula, his own aphex style tracker like beats. But his NEW material is completely unique compared to anything. Windowlicker is a shining example. Every song (well all THREE of them anywho) is very imaginative. There seems to be a different formula for each of these songs. Selected ambient works (I only have vol. 2) is similarly unique, but I don't like it unless I'm in the right mood (background music, when thinking about other more complicated music would be distracting). I think analogue bubblebath and caustic window sound similarly composed because they sound like they were made with a tracker, using typical tracker layout and composition. I wonder if that IS what he used. |
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XMoB from Chicago on 2001-07-16 06:45 [#00015339] | |||||||||
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If you listen to most artists of a specific genre alot of their music sounds so much the same its pathetic, no originality at all. but with RDJ you hear a unique sound unlike anyone elses. of course it might sound similar to a few other tracks he's done on the same album but if you listen to aphex twin, then afx, then polygon or caustic window you'll definetly notice that they all have their own style and sound different from one another. and as for his music being simple, well at times it is but yet is also complex just as reflex said, sometimes keeping music simple can be a very good thing, eh just read what reflex said couldnt say it much better myself |
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|REFLEX| from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on 2001-07-16 07:41 [#00015354] | |||||||||
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Hm yes.. thank you. I think that its a valid question, just.... not too important. >:D |
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chicken paste man!! on 2001-07-16 09:31 [#00015390] | |||||||||
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yep. |
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Chimp Systems from Animal Chin on 2001-07-16 09:39 [#00015393] | |||||||||
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I would say yeah, some of his early stuff, when you look back now, all follows one of two formulas - 1) Lush acoustic / analogue melody against melancholy strings, underpinned by electro / techno beats or 2) atonal melody line against a backdrop of horrible distorted hip-hop/ techno beats. Thats not to detract from the tunes of that period, bcuz 90% still sound ace today, but I think RDJ was playing it a lot \'safer\' than a lot of people thought. To be honest, I think his melodies pretty much still follow the same formula, but seeing as how he spends so much time on his hyper-drum patterns we should let him off. |
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Stone from Hell, U.S.A. on 2001-07-16 22:41 [#00015602] | |||||||||
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Over-rated? I THINK NOT! Anyway, yes many of his melodies are quite simple and basic...almost stark. But thats the beauty of AFX, taking something simple and beautiful and layering it so it's complex...adding schitzoid jackhammer beats or little violin parts or basic electronic noises. He's the shit. Period. |
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pantyman from inside on 2001-07-16 23:38 [#00015613] | |||||||||
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he encompasses the greatest aspects of the greatest musicians the world has ever known he is the best, for now |
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PostModernVancouver from Vancouver,Canada on 2001-07-17 01:14 [#00015638] | |||||||||
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there are 2 kings: David Bowie as an all-round ( singing) musician the most important and prolific in the past 30 years by far, spanning every musical genre except country music. At age 54 hes still the coolest motherfucker around. Besides Aphex's stuff, Bowie's 1995 OUTSIDE album is the greatest album of the 90's IMO.Sorry, but it blows anything else besides Aphex out of the water.Its dark , brooding, dense, bizarre, eclectic and musically all over the map...from ambient to industrial, techno, funk, dance etc...... Buy it if ya can... Aphex Twin, the King of creativity, the greatest most amazing progressive instumental solo artist of the last decade and now. Incomparable!!! Some people might argue this one with me but in a few years he will still be the shining light of all. Should have been born as Bowie's wacky son. |
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The seeds of dissent.... |
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thanksomuch.. hm |
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yes |
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sure showed him.. |
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I really don't think Aphex is the "best" electronic music has to offer... I'm a fan, make no mistake. But honestly, I find some of his stuff fairly average, and other stuff absolute crap (eg, Analogue Bubblebath 4). Add to this that it's been a long while since he released anything truly amazing- and it seems to me like he is somewhat over rated. Ultimately, I don't find myself listening to his music too much anymore But hey, full credit to him, and I can understand why other people view him in such high regard.... I just can't share the sentiment |
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He's done some great music. Don't over analyse it, just pop it up there with all the other pioneers and top electronic music artists and simply enjoy the music. |
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NO BUT HES ELECTONIC MOZARD |
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Where did they get that ridiculous Techno Mozart thing from? I think he was lucky getting picked up by the press, and that if they'd picked up on some other berk making slightly different techno than the norm we might be saying "Hey, Qrum O'Phlyad, overrated?", but still, full power to his mouse mat. |
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it's probably a case of the media being dull again. must categorise.. it can't just be "good".. IT'S! THE! BEST! THING! EVER!. |
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joyrex j5 on the romance tip itallic eyeball HELLo?!!!! |
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sometimes i wonder whats so great about him or squarepusher even. but then an angel loses its wings |
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It's hard for me to give an opinion... I find a lot of his music sounds dated, more so then a group like Autechre, but when it was released it was probably mind blowing... it's just, I really wasn't a fan when most of his music came out. |
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he has not released anything that great in a long while. it is to the point that when he does i will probably not be in a mad rush to get it. he loses no props. just my attention span. it is like watching Andrei Tarkovskys Solyaris the wait becomes so long that you either fall asleep or walk away from it. now there are parts that are just fucking amazing, however not enough to keep relevancy. he will have to reinvent some shit before he is fucking amazing again. |
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yeah that's bullshitz. he's not mozart, he's techno bach. duh. |
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he's electronicas answer to kenny g |
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pwnd |
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this guy obviously hasnt heard druqks 26 remixes and analord |
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"it's been a while since he released something truly amazing" you guys should check analords some time. |
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I wonder how much of the analord stuff is new and how much has been lying about for... a while. |
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yeah... analords is ok i guess.... |
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what would you say is your fav electronic album of the last couple of years? |
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hmm, well, thats actually quite tough! I don't know. There's things I have enjoyed greatly, like Seven Ark: Noise of the new. Or Boy Robot- Rotten Cokctails. Not my "favourites", that would take much time to figure out |
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Oh man, the good old days, when everyone said dumb things and no one cared. |
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thanksomuch, chicken paste man, postmodern vancouver... old good days |
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hu hu hu |
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