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Everybody says that Radiohead ripped the work of ae or afx. Im not a radiohead fan at all but i think they have just been inspired by them. They dont hide their interest for electronic music. People saying that ae rippped radiohead are just silly teenagers. For you what songs are the most autechre/afx like from radiohead For me thats idiotheque on KID A... P.S: I think Rn'B are the main electronic music rippa's |
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Around the release of Kid A I once saw a documentary about radiohead, and they also talked about the similarities with Autechre. At one point they played a little bit of "idioteque", followed immediately by an Autechre-video.... it was indeed very similar (what autechre-song was that? The video showed some sort of a machine, mechanical things moving, in green/white tones... it sounded great!). Anyway I think you're right progeriak. They haven't ripped anyone, they've just been inspired by all electronic music like autechre... i don't see why that is such a big deal. Also the fact that Idioteque has vocals makes a huge difference IMO... it becomes much more "a song", and Thom's voice is a huge part of that. Their song "knives out" sound a little like The Smiths, but nobody is complaining that they're ripping The Smiths. Or for instance the fact that Thom Yorke sometimes sounds a bit like Jeff Buckley... any band will have influences to some degree. I think it'd just be impossible to come up with something completely original. |
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when i listen to the first track off tri repetae by autechre, i always think radiohead used that track for idioteque. they sound basically the same. especially the bass line. i wouldn't say they ripped them off either, though. |
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i think you mean second bad vilbel, the video by autechre |
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electronic music listeners are bollocks breakers. I love MY Music others are SHIt...blablbalba |
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Thank you :-) Isn't that included on the 2nd disc of tri repetae++? I'd better try and find that one, it sounded really really good... |
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it's on ++, but it's also from the ep anvil vapre. |
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also the track is featured on the upcoming gantz graf dvd, i think.... |
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They've just added some electronic flavour to their music. I think that's a good thing... |
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good luck to em... This whole idea of a lone artistic genius creating pieces in a some sort of cultural vacuum is a load of dead-babies; yesterdays thinking.... Everyone is influenced by external things, how could you not be?...I kinda think of culture as a huge conversation... everyone working and chucking ideas out, forming opinions, trading techniques, "quoting" each other etc... If there were more creators and less critics, the world would be a far better place... |
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Of course its not a rip, they've ALWAYS been open about their influences and that's great, as long as they put their own spin on it. The song you and whose army is basically an ink spots sounding track, that was the point, the lyrics and thom's voice becomes another instrument altogether and that's something autechre and aphex don't have, again that's great and unique to them. The reason idioteque might sound like autechre isn't because it was influenced by them nesciarly (although the whole album does have traces of all sorts of influences), rather, it uses an old Paul Lansky sample. |
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did I just spell 'Necessarily' the way I did above? Shite, stupid keyboard. |
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Personally I think 'Idioteque' sounds exactly like the last several minutes of Boards of Canada's 'Chinook'. |
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i never thought of radiohead sounding like ae... |
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I think what the real thing people get mad about, is that radiohead releases this electronic album. Now the general public has no idea what IDM is, or even electronic music, so therefor, they say "oh my god, radiohead is such geniuses, theyve created this whole new sound." but they didnt, they were inspired by electronic music. IDM fans get mad, because the general public overlooks the greatness, and contributions of IDM, and credit it to radiohead... at least thats my take on it... -Zeus |
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i agree totally with zeus |
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why thank you -Zeus |
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I think it's just influence... it's not like they try and hide the fact that they like electronic music, so it's not like they're trying to be labeled as innovators of electronic music... |
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Hm... i also agree with Zeus. When you put it like that, it makes alot more sense why some people get upset over radiohead. But you can't blame radiohead for that... they have been completely honest about their most recent influences. Everyone's heard Thom say he bought the entire Warp-catalogue, and one of the other bandmembers has called the UNKLE album their (radiohead's) "golden grail" (sp?). So really... the general public is just stupid ;-) |
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im not saying i have a problem with it. im just saying how others see it. i love radiohead. and yeah, everyone is influenced by others. but even though radiohead has spoken about thier influence, their fans still dont know what the fuck IDM is, or who Aphex Twin, because they have it so ingrained in their mind that radiohead was still the innovator. yeah -Zeus |
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That's probably for the best... I for one wouldn't really like it if "the general public" started listening to aphex twin... i like that IDM is for the most still a little underground. So let them think radiohead was the innovator... i don't actually care that much... i just know that I like both radiohead and afx, each for different reasons... what some fanatical IDM-fans say about thom yorke doesn't change any of that (for me). |
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to tell you the truth, i don't know how many people really think that radiohead created this new sound. since the release of Kid A, a large number of their listeners have dropped off. now i think radioheads fan base is mostly composed of people like us. the general public just doesn't get it. and im glad that they don't. actually, i wouldn't even be here right now if it wasn't for radiohead. because of radiohead, i strolled over to the small electronic section in the record store, and gave a listen to boc, autechre , and apehx. and im sure as hell gald i did. anyway, radiohead are not ripping off of idm at all. they are just pulling from their influences, as everyone that makes music does. there would be no music with no influence. i think Kid A and Amnesiac are both amazing records by the way, as is ok computer. |
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