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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-05-31 17:19 [#00244621]
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Around '85-91, that period... who were the leading electronic artists? I know Autechre and Mu-Ziq came along in '92-93 with their first major albums.
But other than RDJ, who were the elite back then? The only artists I can think of are 808 State, with New Build. I think that was '88 or something... RDJ remixed Flow Coma. I like that old school sound, I want to check some more of that out.
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artemis
from Ghent (Belgium) on 2002-05-31 17:32 [#00244653]
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Hi Ophecks. Interesting question. Well around '85-91' Detroit-techno was at his peak with artists like Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson,..., they are very famous now. Around the same period Chicago-house was born, but the quality of this music couldn't match detroit techno. In Europe we had in London the first acid boom in '88. After this amazing period we find more intelligent electronica
delivered by Richard, Black Dog(=Plaid!)B12, 808 state, Kirk degiorgio.... Hope i have helped you .
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Quernstone
from Padova (Italy) on 2002-05-31 17:37 [#00244657]
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Check out some of the ACID compilations out of chigago. They kind of join the dots between the electro and full on electronica.
If you really want in indepth study read the work of David Toop. As you can imagine there is a lot of histroy to cover in what amounts to nearly 10 ground-breaking years.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-05-31 17:38 [#00244658]
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Hm, toward the end of that period there was
Meat Meat Manifesto The Orb Shamen Fortran 5 KLF Orbital
and there was the whole Wax Trax scene as well. I guess some of these bands aren't "elite."
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artemis
from Ghent (Belgium) on 2002-05-31 17:38 [#00244659]
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Juan Atkins and Derrick May definately rules! This is fabtastic Detroit techno.
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-05-31 17:39 [#00244660]
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Who is B12? He's that guy that's standing beside Autechre, AFX and Squarepusher on that group photo on this site's photo section. They're all on that wall. Is he IDM or techno or what?
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-31 17:41 [#00244664]
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LFO - Frequencies?
I don't know, not heard it!
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Cabbog
from Chautauqua (United States) on 2002-05-31 17:43 [#00244667]
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Yeah, Meat Beat Manifesto...
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-05-31 17:43 [#00244668]
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Merci beaucoup... I'll check some of these artists out. I should check at allmusic.com, too, that site is comprehensive as hell.
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artemis
from Ghent (Belgium) on 2002-05-31 17:44 [#00244670]
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About B12, you can find very much information at:http://www.obsolete.com/b12/1st-frame.html
They are definately pioneers like autechre for this kind of electronica. Just like ae's "Incunabula", B12 have released an Album "Electro Soma" at the artificial Intelligence serie. This is as far as i know their best work. Definately worth to check out!
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-31 17:50 [#00244673]
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the point is there ws no elite back then - the records were made by unknowns from small record labels being palyed by dj's in clubs - the cuts became famous through being played in clubs - it wasn't until about 1989 that mags started picking up on the (black) men behind the wax from chicago (house/sciid) detroit (techno) and new york (garage/house/brooklyn beats)...most of the good stuff is still avaliable on 12's
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artemis
from Ghent (Belgium) on 2002-05-31 17:53 [#00244678]
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That's right, of lot of old detroit stuff by example is re-released and easy to find on the net. It's not so rare as old British Electronica records like Aphex twin and Black Dog.
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Deathsmith
from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-05-31 17:53 [#00244679]
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Orbital and the Orb, yes, also Underworld!
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2002-06-01 01:02 [#00245225]
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Ah, 808 State they are great! A guy called gerald popped up in 90'-91' after leaving 808.
Orbital Orb Underworld Black Dog B12 Underworld(though there first release was like rock music, lol)
Single Cell Orchestra fsol moby(haha, yeah he's in there)
...all that comes to mind at the moment.
And I suggest getting some 808 State releases.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-06-01 01:05 [#00245231]
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i suggest checking my files on soulseek, i have loads of electronica from the 80s
muhahaha
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nacmat
on 2002-06-01 01:13 [#00245237]
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I ve got an album called "Mind and Body" by juan atkins under the name of model 500, does anybody have an opinion on that one?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-06-01 01:17 [#00245241]
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anyone remember: jack & chill - the jack that house built MARRS - pump up the volume jolly roger - acid man D Mob - we call it acieed S-Express
huh?
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-06-01 01:24 [#00245249]
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the guy standing ae in that group photo is george evelyn, aka nightmares on wax...who incidentally was pretty big in the early 90's pre AI warp roster, along with LFO, sweet exorcist and the forgemasters...all of which could be added to the list of pre 92 electronic stuff
im surprised no one has mentioned kraftwerk yet...they practically started the whole electronic dance music thing in the late 70's and were still pretty big throughout the 80's...
brian eno was also a very important part of pre '90 electronic music
there was also art of noise, ...tangerine dream...and various other psychedelic bands using electronics...and some fusion jazz artists like miles davis and herbie hancock, as well as the kraftwerk-inspired electro-funk scene...with guys like afrika bambaataa...
and then of course all the academic artists dating back to the 50's
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-06-01 01:25 [#00245250]
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standing ae + next to = standing next to ae
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-06-01 01:30 [#00245255]
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Yikes, so much music, so little time... I guess I'll start with 808 State, since I'm at least a little familiar with them. Flow Coma is really good.
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2002-06-01 01:34 [#00245260]
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Start with their 'Pacific' Songs. Ah, there sooo nice!
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Ubik
from United States on 2002-06-01 02:00 [#00245267]
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Kraftwerk -mid 70's to early 80's
Caberet Voltaire - experimental noise (late 70s) early electro 80s (early 80s stuff is quite good), early "IDM"ish house (early 90s, very "Warpish", Richard kirk was signed to warp for two records also)
Throbbing Gristle- very experimental electronic noise late 70s, pioneers. -"solo" projects including offshoot Coil (yes, reflex, "fags")into through the 80s and on
News Order/Joy Division- late 70s to mid 80s
early 80's hip-hop such as Grandmaster Flash and "Planet Rock"
Ministry (late 80s to early 90s) -lots of imitators, influences, AL was the man in 1989, sort of the missing link dance, industrial, and metal
early chicago acid house, early detroit techno (late 80s)... lots of very cool stuff
Public Enemy- late 80s, early 90s
De La Soul- late 80s, early 90s
"new beat" and early Dutch techno (like89 to 91)- sounds so funny now, especially since the cheesiest track gets played ten billion times in ads and sporting events (2 unlimited- "get ready for this")
Meat Beat Manifesto- Jack Dangers was a genius in the late 80s, early 90s, very ripped off
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-06-01 02:06 [#00245270]
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DHS - House Of God (all 18 remixes) but the original is by far the best
The aforementioned Jack Dangers remix is rather classy aswell
Dare I mention a not very well known but highly rated group who go by the name of.....
...Earth Leakge Trip
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Deathsmith
from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-06-01 02:25 [#00245273]
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Moby??? Yeah I suppose, but he can get stomped by Oby, for all I care!!! (Eminem lyrics. -_-)
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2002-06-01 03:14 [#00245320]
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Download this, its a Techno classic
Model 5000 - No Ufos
Id say, the early nineties were even more intresting, with the upcoming Breakbeat & Rave scene.......I really dont know any IDM musicians from that period....except maybe Move D !?
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