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180 bpm for house?
 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-30 04:17 [#00241725]
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is 180 too fast for house music? i dont really do much
house but im just wondering what the average person thinks
of that tempo with a 4 on the floor kick.


 

offline Quoth from Sweden on 2002-05-30 04:20 [#00241733]
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umm... i'd try 116 :) i like the chilled out stuff w/4 on
the floor... BUT

hehe... what ever floats your boat i sphoze


 

offline license from out of nowhere on 2002-05-30 04:21 [#00241738]
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wow that sounds painful!!! hahaha...

I would say 140, but that's probably even a little fast. 120
sounds really quite resonable.


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-30 04:22 [#00241740]
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180 is 120 (standard House) + 60 (1/2 t120) so you should be
able yo get away with something...

180 is more Jungle speed...but maybe it's something worth
playwith....


 

offline Quoth from Sweden on 2002-05-30 04:23 [#00241741]
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Polygon Window - Quoth (woodenthump mix)

MMMMMMM ;) I AM CREAMING MY PANTS!

"eww" you say


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2002-05-30 04:24 [#00241742]
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ntsntsntsntsntsntsn ts n ts n ts n ts >ntsnts!!!!!!!!!!!


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-30 04:27 [#00241748]
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still no joy with the anti-dyslexia pills then,
pachi?...;)....



 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-05-30 04:34 [#00241756]
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LOL!!! @ Pachi BEATBOX MY MAN!!

ntsntsntsntsntsntsntsn!!!!


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-05-30 04:36 [#00241759]
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Jand: Could you explain yourself a bit there. What you
said is kinda interesting about how those two numbers can go
into eachother.

I was about to say 180 is like jungle / dnb. Hardcore rave
/ happyhardcore I don't think even gets that high (prolly
170-ish)

I like to work with 130-140 for my house music.


 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-05-30 04:50 [#00241787]
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yeah...house at 180 = happy hardcore/gabber...which can get
up to around 200bpm


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-05-30 04:58 [#00241801]
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Another question: what does 4 on the floor mean? Are you
referring to the four kicks per measure or something? like
a "boom boom boom boom"?



 

offline wayout from the street of crocodiles on 2002-05-30 04:59 [#00241803]
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yeah...4/4 time signature
like a metronomic beat


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-05-30 04:59 [#00241804]
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I sure hope no one started singing Snow's song Informer
after that boom boom thing LOL

"Informer a bliggety-bliggety blah a boom boom beyay!!"


 

offline license from out of nowhere on 2002-05-30 05:00 [#00241808]
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Ntss-CHtss-Ntss-CHtss-Ntss-CHtss-! (gotta have my CP as well
as my BD and CH!)


 

offline license from out of nowhere on 2002-05-30 05:02 [#00241812]
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INFORMER!! hell yeah!! iniki bom bom down... (butchering the
lyrics all the way)


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-05-30 05:03 [#00241816]
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CP? BD? CH? what are you talking about?


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-30 05:33 [#00241887]
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a one bar loop at 120 will go on for 2 seconds seconds....

a one bar loop at 180 will go on for 3...

Play the 2 togther and you get a repeating pattern....

I'll explain better when I'm more awake...but I hope the
idea is there...

basically 180 is like 1.5 x 120....so theres a ratio there
and all music is ratio....be it melody, or rhymhm or
frequency/tibmre..etc...

A lot of new styles are generated by people playing with
this kinda of WACK thkning....


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-30 05:37 [#00241899]
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ive always been a big fan of the mathmatical thinking, i
already made the observation of 120 and 180. apparently 135
can work but im not sure why. if you look up at where the
down hits hit in milliseconds they eventually hit the same
as 180. but that is harder to mix than 180 and 120.
try weird length loops like 7 count loops. or 5 count
loops.


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-05-30 06:38 [#00242001]
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Jand: Please elaborate more on what you're talking about
when you're more awake. That's very very interesting. I
would like to hear more.


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-05-30 06:41 [#00242004]
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I have a hard time with complex drum rhythms. so far I can
only work with 4/4, 3/4, 6/8. I would like to work with 5s
or 7s.


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-05-30 06:42 [#00242007]
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Im going to study radiohead's first song on Kid A. that's
like a 10/4 song...its 4/4 kick but more bars or something
than a 4/4 beat. I don't know all the terminology.


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-30 13:43 [#00242369]
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Sure thing.... just got to pop to the docs to hopefully
fleece something for the weekend...

But will talk more about this when I get back or later
tonight...it's part of maths
that is very intriguing... My Avatar uses some of the
technique I outlined (but visually of course...)....

(time sigs and loop lengths are similar in many ways;
epecially when you use more than one at same time...)...

talk more later....


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2002-05-30 13:47 [#00242375]
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Richie Hawtin. De9

When I write house music I usually do it at about 240bpm
(give or take about 20bpm). There is a lot of space in there
to work with. Eventually it translates into 120bpm with
tinie sounding melodies.


 

offline Jedy from dublin (Ireland) on 2002-05-30 13:51 [#00242383]
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here is a song i made at 220

www.mp3.com/tagarnasasesinas


 

offline Jedy from dublin (Ireland) on 2002-05-30 13:53 [#00242386]
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tagarnas asesinas

tell me what do you think about gog3


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-05-31 08:26 [#00244122]
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Polyrythmic has been used in classical music a long time.
=)

and.... house is about 120-130. 180 is downright hardcore
techno.


 

offline Jedy from dublin (Ireland) on 2002-05-31 08:38 [#00244137]
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i hate house music is so gay


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-05-31 08:54 [#00244162]
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HAha. thats funny, because i usually say no-one dislikes
house music because its just pleasant music.

Guess i was wrong.

what about acid house? or deep house?

Arr, i know you like house just a little bit.


 


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