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i read in the la times today: "after 10 consecutive years of annual growth, profits contracted last year in the record industry by 3%. CD burning, free downloading of music from the Internet and the enormous rise in popularity of movies on DVD were contributing factors in this decline." (every generation has the crap music, but this is a little ridiculous. i can't tell linkin park from aphex theory to pod to incubus to who knows what. it all sounds the same to me) i was thinking about this and started to wonder if this accusation was true. maybe, just maybe, no one really wanted the new j lo album, or the new back street boys or whatever crap the machine is pumping out. is this possibly not "our" fault, but maybe "their's" for the lack of good commercial music (i use the term commercial losely). and this isn't necessarily a debate of is downloading mp3s, and burning your own cds is right or wrong. it's been done before ... a lot. do you think they are quick to point fingers that it's the consumers fault, or this just some idea way off base? |
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yes!!!!! *grabs balls* |
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Call me a capitalist but I happen to believe that downloading is the culprit. Commerical music is created that way because market researchers spend millions of dollars determining what music will make the most amount of money. Artistic merit is not considered nor is any other non-monetary detail. This system has worked for the past 10 years. The music business (major labels) is there to make a profit nothing more. If you're tastes are not those of the majority then commercial music is not made for you. Just my opinion. |
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Yeah, it's easy for them to point the finger the internet, it distracts attention from the fact that it is the industry's fault. I have no sympathey for an industry that wastes millions on crappy videos for Britney and such, and pays millions for Maria Carey NOT to record anything. It makes me so cross that money could have been spent on loads of new bands that need a break and might sell loads if they got the chance... |
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why sell music? should we sell air? :-D |
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Music has been raped long enough, maybe people are beginning to see that now. |
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i agree with the lazer beak |
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but watch the companies try to shut the download-wares down, then they'll be a new one, they'll never win. |
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im not causing drop i think |
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I'm sorry but I can't agree with Lazerbeak. I've lost faith in humanity. Don't get me wrong I think that individuals can awaken to the suckatude that is commercial music but there's no hope for the populace as a whole. |
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he means society's music |
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i mean, I know Warp Records is still a business so theyre gonna start doing whatever tehy can do get money. take A-PC for example, theyre first ep ruled all, amazing, excellent. their new lp reminds me of fucking jay-z with aphex twin wannabe music playing in the background. what the fuck? |
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Ummm. the music industry had its best year ever the year before they took napster off the market. The year after they took napster off the market, the music industry took one of its worst dives ever. Maybe people were pissed off at how openly petty the music industry became. Maybe a lot of people became so dependant on napster to help them decide upon what to buy, they felt lost without it. Either way, napster seemed to do nothing but help the music industry, and they fucked it up. Now they're getting fucked up. |
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There is/was a recession going on, entertainment items like CDs are the first to go. I think you need more than a few years to see these trends. Napster was huge in 1999. CD sales weren't down then. |
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but ill still buy some WARP stuff not to give the artists hella money so they can be sellout mobys, but just cuz i want to buy em hehe :) |
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i agree and disagree with the napster thing. i mean, come ON, the majority of people downloaded every single album and downloaded the cover art at www.cdcovers.cc |
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And you know this because? You and all your buds did it? |
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Maybe thats what you did. I know a lot of people that bought the music they liked. That wasn't just a think I made up just to validate the pro P2P argument... it a legitimate statistic. You can quote me on it. I forget the sources (I have heard it from quite a few places), but I can guarantee you that it is accurate. |
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thats cool, i was just talking probability, i was inferring cuz the majority of americans, at least the thousands i know, like free stuff and even scowl at a $4.99 cd |
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you guys ruined it for us cd buyers, the industry was all set to drop PRICES of cd's (by a few dollars even) until the sales got bad this year. fuck y'all. |
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also, in the us, look at music shops. NO APHEX, if any there'd be 2 or 3 out of the hundreds of releases he made. |
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LOL how stupid of the corporations!!! if they want more people to buy their cds, make them cheap so that itll attract more people! who the fuck wants to buy an $18 cd?! |
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Most americans will buy the top twenty selling albums of the year at most, and leave it at that. The music industry makes a lot of money off those people. The thing is... they are also the kind of people who wouldn't dedicate more than a few minutes towards finding those same trax online and burning them to cd. They would rather not be arsed... Same thing with canadians. |
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yeah, theyre called 'mainstream people' |
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music which is selling most its just not lasting. when it gets 2 moths old nobody wants to buy it anymore. its different with not so popular music imo. |
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Actually, all the sources I have heard from say that they are planning on dropping the prices due to lack of consumer interest. |
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Where did you hear this? |
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Thats where the industry makes most of its money. |
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Tell the record store manager about it, if you haven't already. If they don't know people want it, they won't stock it. |
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i think downloads do hurt music sales: with regards to the the sales of the commercial phlegm that record companies spew out i don't really give a shit but when people do it to independant or struggling artists it pisses me off: the little guys need the money so the odd download is okay if you want to know more about an artist but whole album stuff is really cunty: an album is for life, not just for christmas |
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I haven't stopped buying albums. I do burn a lot of cd's tho. |
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