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ChildrenTalking
from United States on 2002-05-26 13:34 [#00235468]
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?? some of you will kill me for saying this but hearing the second album on Tri Repetae leads to believe they're
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artemis
from Ghent (Belgium) on 2002-05-26 14:22 [#00235478]
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Autechre sounds definately not jazzy! Listen to old Dan Curtin or Carl Craig records, this is great jazzy techno.
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-05-26 14:50 [#00235498]
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I don't ever want to see Autechre and Techno in the same sentence ever again got that? lol :)
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-26 14:52 [#00235500]
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techno..............ewwww horrible term used in america
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ChildrenTalking
from United States on 2002-05-26 14:53 [#00235502]
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electronic musicians sound more fitting?
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-05-26 14:53 [#00235503]
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you better believe it. I loathe it. I wish the word techno would go away...disco too. both are bad.
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-05-26 14:54 [#00235504]
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it does children :)
Okay children, gather around...it's story time ;) lol jk
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Thelonious Punk
from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-26 14:55 [#00235507]
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there is such a thing as techno, but no one but Europeans with bad taste are into it.
I don't see how aphex or Boc or Autechre ever got boxed into it..hrrmm..
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-26 14:57 [#00235508]
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I just use electronic
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-05-26 14:58 [#00235509]
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that picture really frightens me Thelonious @_@ its like a bill gates muppet. Americans / Canadians (all but us lol) are really dumb and think everything is techno. it's how they are. they're all so stuck up on their pop music.
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Thelonious Punk
from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-26 14:58 [#00235510]
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so do I.
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-05-26 14:59 [#00235511]
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same here
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Thelonious Punk
from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-26 14:59 [#00235512]
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Amonbrune-huh? Yeah I know freaky isn't he.. A white house sock puppet! hehe..
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Amonbrune
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-05-26 15:01 [#00235514]
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oh, i thought it was bill gates. still scary even if its not :)
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Thelonious Punk
from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-26 15:03 [#00235516]
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Well, it is bill gates, a sock puppet of him, in front of governmental buildings.
(:
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ChildrenTalking
from United States on 2002-05-26 15:05 [#00235519]
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whats it suppose to mean? bill gates owns the gov't or is it the other way around?
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Thelonious Punk
from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-26 15:09 [#00235527]
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Its up to you to interpret it how you interpret it.
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ChildrenTalking
from United States on 2002-05-26 15:10 [#00235528]
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i think he owns... for the time being
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-26 17:59 [#00235760]
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actually, when I first started listening to Dael, I thought it sounded jazzy in a weird sort of way... something about the synths sound like horns...
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-05-26 18:11 [#00235791]
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i always see autechre as the electronic Sonic Youth - very psychedelic yet very danceable at times
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-05-26 18:31 [#00235822]
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irritatingly enough, i say idm
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-05-26 19:27 [#00235871]
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"techno..............ewwww horrible term used in america"
"I wish the word techno would go away..."
I completely agree that music like aphex and autechre shouldnt be classified as techno, but why do so many people seem disgusted by the term 'techno' ?
like B3n said, this term is widely used in the U.S, for basically every form of electronic music. The same goes for the word 'rave' and because of that 'techno' has become such a stereotypical term that it is completely FUCKED.
Obviously, 'real' techno is still a really unknown kind of music to a lot of people here, which is fine, but therefore its evenmore messed up that its image gets damaged by prejudiced people.
examples of good techno artists:
ken ishii steve rachmad monika kruse dave clarke surgeon john thomas jeff mills etc..
listen to their music before you (i'm not talking to anybody in particular) generalise it by thinking its the same thing as trance, house and other electronic music.
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Archrival
on 2002-05-26 20:08 [#00235976]
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Dont u dare mention Autechre and Techno in the same sentence ever again!!!! ;)
They make music.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-05-26 20:13 [#00235998]
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archrival knows what's up
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kolpanikus
from d (Antigua And Barbuda) on 2002-05-26 20:14 [#00236003]
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what a load of crap!
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grinningcat
from london (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-26 21:38 [#00236202]
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i'd agree with u on that one. i've always thought the same.
similarities: how the track seems freeform, how certain melodies/sounds weave in and out, how the tracks build over 10mins etc
i think they are electronic jazz defiantely.
they are the electronic miles davis and john coltrane
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2002-05-26 21:45 [#00236211]
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i call it electronic music. i think their music pushes the envelope like jazz does, not that they sound jazzy really, but just today i was thinking they are similar to jazz. also to psychedelic music yep i agree, and hip-hop. didn't ae say they make folk music?
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-26 22:51 [#00236325]
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I think you may mean, Squarepusher = jazzy electronic. NOT autechre.
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-05-26 23:26 [#00236351]
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i dont think he meant they they were jazzy in the way they sound instrumentally...like squarepusher...
but have a similar musicality to free jazz...seemingly abstract randomness grounded in music theory...which is something ae and free jazz have in common...i think theres even a review on a sticker on the us lp5 that called them electronic free jazz.... and they have said in interviews that they're big jazz fans...
and as far as calling ae 'techno'...it isnt so wrong...since 'real' techno (like the detroit stuff j198 mentioned) seems to be a big influence on them ...hell..incunabula could be called a techno album..they just kinda took their influences off in their own direction and mixed them with other influences...like hip hop and acedemic electronic music.. even jazz..to make someting original which cant be defined by a genre title (idm doesnt count) which i think is what all musicians should (or do) strive for
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-05-26 23:41 [#00236374]
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i hate the term techno, kill it.
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2002-05-26 23:59 [#00236394]
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There's nothing wrong with the word Techno when it's used in the right context(i.e. Detroit Techno). Sure the word isn't used properly in America, but when it is what's so bad about it?
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Sand Lepus
from Louisville (United States) on 2002-05-27 00:14 [#00236411]
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Sort of along the lines of what Archrival said: Don't you dare mention Autechre and jazz in the same sentence ever again!
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-05-27 00:26 [#00236417]
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yeah...the term techno isnt so bad..considering it is one of the few genre titles that was actually invented by the people who 'invented' the genre...i think juan atkins was the first to use it ...which is appropriate since he was among the first to actually make 'techno' ...usually genre's get titled by jounalists...leaving everyone whose actually involved with the music with a label they hate (cough *idm* cough)
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-05-27 00:30 [#00236419]
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but then of course you have all the kids who know nothing about electronic music calling everything with even a hint of a synthesizer or drum machine 'techno'
which can be annoying i guess...but dont blame the word..blame those who are too lazy to use it properly
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2002-05-27 03:01 [#00236522]
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exactly.
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-05-27 03:08 [#00236526]
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kill america then?
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2002-05-27 03:09 [#00236528]
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ehhh...overrated to SOME extent.
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J and The B
from Chesterland, Ohio (United States) on 2002-05-27 03:13 [#00236533]
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I'd say that Autechre isn't jazzy at all considering that it is a lot of repetition which is about the opposite of true jazz...
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ChildrenTalking
from United States on 2002-05-27 03:56 [#00236549]
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i really enjoy their music, i apologize for the autechre fans... in the US we label all artists under electronic as techno...
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