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offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 12:33 [#00234398]
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name one person who is the most responsible for modern
music as we know it today. could be any person in history
in any style as long as you can think of a good reason he
affected music more than anyone else. actually it doesnt
even necessarily need to be a musicain.
im not even sure if i have an answer yet i just thought this
would get some interesting responses.


 

offline Nexus 6 from Netherlands, The on 2002-05-25 12:34 [#00234400]
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pink floyd

Influenced so many different music styles. Especially modern
electronic music.


 

offline nacmat on 2002-05-25 12:37 [#00234402]
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stravinsky
beatles
kraftwerk


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-05-25 12:39 [#00234404]
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i personally would like to thank the smashing pumpkins for
creating a guitar style that i much admire and unshamefully
copy.



 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 12:40 [#00234405]
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wait ive got it! no one can debate this i just thought of
it. thomas edison. first person to achieve recording of
sound.
i think it was him anyway.


 

offline Nexus 6 from Netherlands, The on 2002-05-25 12:42 [#00234406]
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radiohead


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 12:44 [#00234407]
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but edison recorded sound. without him we wouldnt have
anything we have now musically.


 

offline Laserbeak from Netherlands, The on 2002-05-25 12:45 [#00234409]
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Raymond Scott for his development of the analogue sequencer



 

offline nacmat on 2002-05-25 12:47 [#00234412]
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thats ridiculous cos music would have existed anyway...
mozart?


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 12:47 [#00234413]
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ah but raymond scott would only contribute to electronic
music. i was wondering about modern music in general.
although raymond scott was a badass ill admit.


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 12:49 [#00234414]
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true it would have existed without recorded sound but it
wouldnt have evolved the same being that we wouldnt have the
influences of our cds when we go to make music. right?


 

offline dingle berry from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2002-05-25 12:50 [#00234415]
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enrico caruso
one of the first people to make an audio recording of high
class opera bringing the rich folks music to the general
public!


 

offline nacmat on 2002-05-25 12:50 [#00234417]
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music wouldnt be the same without Julio Iglesias

:-)


 

offline supreme from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-05-25 12:51 [#00234418]
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Marie Curie, Inventor of Electricity ,maybe?


 

offline supreme from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-05-25 12:52 [#00234420]
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...and her husband,who supported her!


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 12:52 [#00234421]
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enrico caruso, good one its good to learn that stuff.

what about say if someone helped enrico? like the guy that
financed his project or something? i dont know im just
thinking alot.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-05-25 12:53 [#00234422]
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Beatles.

Just listen to Tomorrow Never Knows... that is SO GOD DAMN
ELECTRONIC!!! And it was NINETEEN BLOODY SIXTY SIX!!!!

They still sound so contemporary today because they
pioneered so many sounds, used so many great ideas.

So the one person I think is most important is John
Lennon... and if they had the equipment we have today, I'd
be horrified to hear the amazing stuff he could do with it.


 

offline dingle berry from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2002-05-25 12:54 [#00234423]
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some cave man dude who bashed a couple of midi daisy chained
rocks together!
whilst grunting!


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 12:54 [#00234424]
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wow i didnt even know a woman invented electricity. or
rather found it... its always existed no? but still thats
cool. i find it ironic that woman are repressed so much but
we owe all of our modern electrical life to one.


 

offline nacmat on 2002-05-25 12:55 [#00234427]
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but paul was great too and he is doing nothing

why?


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 12:55 [#00234428]
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leave it to him to bring up the beatles again.


 

offline supreme from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-05-25 12:56 [#00234431]
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...and she died of it (Cancer I think)
She didn't know it was radioactive.

=(



 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-25 12:57 [#00234434]
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Yeah the floyd definitely

but I think definitely the originals from the jazz scene,
jazz has had such a profound influence of the shaping of
music in the 20th century


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 12:57 [#00234435]
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wow thats a really cool fact man. i wanna read up more on
her.


 

offline nacmat on 2002-05-25 12:57 [#00234436]
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marie curie didnt do anything about electricity... it was
about I dont know...but surely not electricity... I think it
was something about radioactivity


 

offline nacmat on 2002-05-25 12:59 [#00234440]
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electricity its not radiactive...she investigated on radious
(spell?) nothing to do with electricity


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 12:59 [#00234441]
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id agree with jazz godfather type people. but still edison
and marie curie, edison recorded sound and marie curie
created electricity.
i think this post should just end now cause they are by far
the most responsibile for modern music :) end of story.
hehe.


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-25 13:01 [#00234442]
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surely Marie Curie was one of the 2 people to invent the
x-ray? and died from using it too much,..


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-05-25 13:01 [#00234443]
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kraftwerk


 

offline supreme from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-05-25 13:02 [#00234445]
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I'm gonna kill my history teacher!

no, made this mistake because my english is not so good.

...sorry...


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 13:02 [#00234446]
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well the other guy said something about radioactivity too.


 

offline nacmat on 2002-05-25 13:02 [#00234447]
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didnt you read what i posted.
marie curie didnt do anything with electricity!!!!!!!!!!!!


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 13:04 [#00234448]
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sorry i didnt realise this thread had already gotten to two
pages long.


 

offline supreme from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-05-25 13:05 [#00234449]
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...but I really thought she had something to do with it...


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 13:07 [#00234450]
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i actually never saw the magic in kraftwerk. i downloaded a
bunch of their tunes off napster once to see what they were
made of cause i was told they were like godfathers of
electro but i just didnt get it. maybe i wasnt mature
enough then i dont know.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-05-25 13:09 [#00234452]
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Kraftwerk is OK, but they don't impress me too much. Maybe
in the context of the time they doing it in, but the Beatles
still sound so damn cool.

Beatlesbeatlebeatlebeatlesbeatles

I think the Who is damn underrated, Townshend is a god, a
motherfuddrucking god.


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 13:15 [#00234461]
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the who was cool, im just so tired of the beatles. i think
they were the early days of record companies learning to
market stars. the equivalent of a boyband really.

ill get crap for that im sure. but i dont think most any
star gets that big on their own merits its all marketing.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-05-25 13:18 [#00234467]
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Yep, you WILL get crap for that... boyband?

You just lost all credibility with me. :-/


 

offline Thelonious Punk from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-25 13:19 [#00234472]
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Lennon alone was not the beatles.. AHEM, George Harrison was
one of the most influential guitarists of all time as well
as one of the most underrated ones. Remember, it was he who
made all their songs memorable with his stylized guitar
hooks and even his introduction of eastern sounds into the
west. Also keep in mind it was a FACT he knew more chords
then both John and Paul.

As for a modern ‘band’ that I think have been
influential, I’d go with Radiohead. In terms of modern
MUSCIANS well, I’d surely rank Richard D. James highly.



 

offline Thelonious Punk from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-25 13:20 [#00234474]
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And if we started to get into things like Jazz and classical
music well, I wouldn't know where to draw the line.


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 13:21 [#00234478]
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i didnt say they were a boyband, i said they are the
marketing equivalent. not a whole lot better ill admit but
those guys were stars before anyone even heard them.
im not a big believer in the music industry. we push music
as a business far too much and make people far more popular
than they could ever get on the music alone. this goes for
any artist that has ever been huge. there was always clever
marketing tricks behind the stars and it wasnt only about
the music. not that marketing shouldnt exist it just takes
away credability as a musician and makes you a business man.
or a puppet.


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-25 13:22 [#00234479]
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The monkees were a boyband, I don't regard the beatles as
such (even if i'm not a huge fan)


 

offline Thelonious Punk from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-25 13:24 [#00234482]
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What the hell are you talking about? They were one of the
FEW anti commercialistic bands of the time and indeed
history. They refused to tour when they started to get
really, really huge.. They just totally dropped their main
tour.

Its a bit secular to say they were commercialistic when you
consider the industry back then AND HELL TODAY, it can't
factor into it. Even punk bands are sell outs to an extent
dammit.



 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-05-25 13:25 [#00234483]
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I don't care about the marketing or how popular they were,
fact is, they're music was awesome and trail blazing.

What the hell does them being HUGE have to do with the fact
that they were innovators... they might have got their push
through marketing, but they proved their mettle through
their music...



 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 13:25 [#00234485]
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exactly i dont regard them as a boyband, but you have to
admit there was so much hype behind them. the hippies
needed music and the companies gave them some heros. it
wasnt only the music, ill admit they had some inovative
songs, but the hype was there too and anyone who doesnt see
that... well...


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-05-25 13:25 [#00234486]
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kraftwerk


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 13:27 [#00234488]
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thats just it, i respect them but at the same time i think
people have a misconception of them as being rocks all time
greatest artists and i dont think they were anywhere near
such.


 

offline Thelonious Punk from *fap fap fap* on 2002-05-25 13:27 [#00234489]
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The beatles weren't selling their music to ad agencies at
the time.. Aphex twin is today however.. So what, he's still
no moby or friggin nsync. Talent above all else is what
should REALLY matter, and in that department the beatles
above all the filtered crap you get today.


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-25 13:29 [#00234492]
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aphex came from underground as a cult artist and made it to
the top after working for over a decade. i dont think the
beatles can say they did the same.


 

offline Tropa from Helsinki (Finland) on 2002-05-25 13:30 [#00234493]
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Yep, Marie and Pierre Curie were the pioneers in
radioactivity research. Not much to do with electricity in
the traditional sense.

For electricity, on the other hand I don't think a single
person can be credited. The first known observations on
electricity were made by Thales in 600 B.C. He concluded
that a piece of amber had to have a soul because it could
attract lifeless objects towards itself. Since then quite a
few scientists have taken part in studying electricity:
Volta, Franklin, Coulomb, Faraday, Maxwell, Edison and
Ampère to name a few. Not many women tho.

I've been reading way too much physics lately. :)


 


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