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check over at the Planet-Mu messageboard... I certainly learnt a lot from it about the merits of FLs...I know a lot of people diss this proggie but this thread shows it's doesn't deserve the flak it sometimes gets.... |
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yes, good thread. ill always believe that anything can make good music. and fruityloops isnt just a piece of anything its a good piece of anything so if you cant use it you havent tried hard enough. most people hate it cause of the first versions. |
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exactly, didnt squarepusher have some shitty gear or something back in the good old days!? and look what he made with it!!!! |
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he used something like a yamaha qy70 i think the name was it cost about 100 dollars and had a total of like 20 sounds, he used it as a sequencer i read. |
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yeah the great people take a clapped-out piece of shit and push it to its limits |
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i think at some point im going to take a long list of random house hold items and have someone pick out say 6(?) things (pots, pans, blender, floor) off the list for me to use to sample and make music using no other sounds. only manipulations of those sounds. it would be really interesting to work around the limitations. |
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you can sample them all for me -- and i want a sample of an egg-slicer too thanx -- and some distorted radio frequencies |
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concept music is something thats highly underrated. |
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"concept music" is almost as bad a term as "idm" |
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I'm going to make some intelligent concept music :) |
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concept music is music with a predetermined concept jackface. its not pompous. theres a band black heart procession that made a concept album where every song has the word heart in it. i like them. making an album using only sounds from around the house is a concept album. its just a fact. not even a clever name being that the name just says exactly what youre doing. |
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This is some great concept music. The song starts with an alarm clock folowed by some kitchen noices , glases pots pans that are later sequensed to form beats. It really feels like you are in the guys kitchen , a radio morning news broadcast in the bakround n stuff. It is a demo that was played on swedish radio. The artist did it as a schoolwork of some kind,very impresive!! Raimons introdused it to me =) click on the link and have a listen ,its a great track =) |
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hell, just about every boyband song has the word LOVE in it... so i take it thats part of the BoyBand Concept too huh? any form of music is a concept -- so why use the term at all? it's redundant |
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yeah i always have wanted to do something like that - with me, it was someone walking down the street, humming a melody and tapping out a beat with the coins in his pocket, which would then merge into a song -- there were some nice concepts behind that song which i would explain if i had the time/inclination |
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but youre misunderstanding what concept music is. its predeciding to give yourself certain limitations, or doing things in only one certain way to see what happens. making an album of only songs that are under a minute. thats a concept. its not just music anymore its music with an idea behind it not just creativity. |
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Now the guy is at school , you can here his teacher talking n stuff. |
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i know what a concept is, but i love to be patronised at least once a day. i repeat, ALL music has a concept, and ALL music is concept music. |
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ok smart guy then when i write an album of songs only under one minute each what do we call that process of creation? if you have a different idea than simply going about the process of music then you must inform people that you were "making music with a different idea than conventional" i mean we could just say nonconventional music but concept is more specific. and generally concept music is more based on full albums with the same idea not just one song. which furthers you to realise there is something different going on. |
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Do you know a piece of music without a pre-defined concept? If you make all the songs under 7 minutes, is it still a concept or not? The term "concept" covers too much territory to have a specific meaning IMHO |
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What you are talking about sounds more like DOGMA You know Lars Von Triers made up rules and limitations on film making that he and his dogma mates follow. I often work that way when i fiddle with music , make a track with only one original sound as source for example. |
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exactly, this is not hard to understand that there is a difference. its not suprising in a world of shitty music and artists that we could evolve the term concept music anyway. i mean if you are going to make music with a brain you might as well call it "music with a brain" as a style or something not that i think concept music is even a style and its not even something i do but im making a point that in a way it is a rebellion against the norm and therefor should be recignised as something other than the norm via different name. |
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yeah laserbeak, that's what i think too -- just comes off sounding like elitism -- |
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Maybe we could call it "handicap music"... or when sourcematerial is normally not associated with music: "Alchemy music"(turn shit into gold)... |
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theres nothing elite about it. i bought a punk vinyl once that had about 90 songs on it that were all under 30 seconds. THAT IS A CONCEPT RECORD AND YOU CANT SAY ITS NOT. ITS NOT BEING ELITE CAUSE THEY ARENT SAYING ITS BETTER THAN ANYTHING. ITS JUST A RECORD WITH A CONCEPT. |
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thanx for the link to the excellent track,sido -- |
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no one is denying that it is a concept -- we are saying that ALL music has a concept, however lowly and beneath your acceptance |
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